What do I buy.

Hi all
Don't know if this is posted in the right spot but here it goes.

In a month or so I am looking to buy a newer model Patrol. We have a 89 GQ which we are keeping but I want another later model. Info please: I would really prefer petrol to diesel. It doesn't have to have a lift kit or any major aftermarket fit outs. Normal stuff like a bull bar and spotties would be nice--roof rack, side steps and awning also. I would prefer not to have a turbo also.

What I am asking is what year should I be looking for, as I have heard some bad reports on later models with engine problems etc. Earlier models so I have heard have better engines. ??

I will not be taking it off road except to go camping up the beach, otherwise it will be my everyday car.

Some info and advice would be much appreciated guys.

Ronnieh

So you want another GQ? What size petrol engine? the RB30 or the TB42?

or a GU with the TB45 or TB48 engine?

what bad reports are you hearing?

The only bad thing about patrols is their fuel economy and they don't like gas too much but then again other don't have an issue on gas

Hands down the 4.8.
Better technology, better fuel efficiency and more power.

LPG is the only issue on the 4.8's. Unless the engine is properly setup it can prematurely age them, I know of several including mine where the engine was end of life in the early to mid 200000km.

Not on LPG it will be a great engine. They are bloody thirsty, but reliable. Every issue ive ever had can be traced back to the LPG.

J

Hi
As we have a GQ was thinking a GU. Petrol is preferred but would think Diesel. NO GAS, no Turbo, just basic and as long as it gets me around town and up the beach. Reliability is my main factor.
Don't know lots about motors etc so thats why I am asking.

Ronnieh.

Whar ever you decide on make sure you have History, history, history,
a 4.8 has power to burn if needed, personally I wouldnt buy on on gas with the price they ask these days.
If you go diesel , a 4.2 TD will cost you a mint if you can find one, A few guys here are selling GQ with a 4.2 diesel
that wont break the bank, Or go the 2.8 GU no rocket ship but reliable

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Originally Posted by Ronnieh

Hi
As we have a GQ was thinking a GU. Petrol is preferred but would think Diesel. NO GAS, no Turbo, just basic and as long as it gets me around town and up the beach. Reliability is my main factor.
Don't know lots about motors etc so thats why I am asking.

Ronnieh.

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That list means either a Petty 4.5 or 4.8 and, yeah, I wouldn't touch one that had bigger kilometres that was gassed.

If it is only around town and up the beach then either will do the job but the 4.8 is definitely the nicest drive of any GU.

Love the 4.8 gus. With dad having owned a 4.5, and now a 4.8, I love the 4.8.

Economy wise, very similar to each other. When empty, the 4.8 is much better, but there is nothing wrong with the 4.5

But when towing........ The 4.8 is king. I towed my go back from Fraser, a 5hr drive, and I went the back way, so a few hills etc..... Sat on 100-110 the whole way, still able to overtake when needed, occasionally had to drop it back to 4th for some hills (yes yes the towing debate, I personally have no problem towing in 5th, even a heavy load) (also come to think of it shouldn't have been going that fast with a car trailer, but it was a well built trailer, I maintained huge gaps in traffic, and eased off well before any corners.)

But anyway. I have never driven a car that I would prefer to tow with.

Good luck with your purchase, and have fun with whatever you end up getting.

Cheers

There's also a number of God mods for the 4.8. The next time I'm due for a clutch be getting the 5th gear upgraded alongside a reduction gear in the transfer case.

I love the car. LPG is a false economy so don't go there.

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There's also a number of God mods for the 4.8. The next time I'm due for a clutch be getting the 5th gear upgraded alongside a reduction gear in the transfer case. I love the car. LPG is a false economy so don't go there.

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Got a list of God mods at all?

I have an 09 4.8 and it is thirsty with power to burn. Def check all the history, even more so if a fleet vehicle. Mine blew up at 75000 and was a fleet vehicle, turned out the log book was dodgy and after Nissan and I did research into it, found out the Govt Dept only serviced it twice in 75000.

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snip... found out the Govt Dept only serviced it twice in 75000.

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Yeah, it's disgraceful I know.

The way Gov't Fleet is now handled I wouldn't touch an ex-Gov vehicle with a Prado Jack handle(and I'd never touch anything Prado) unless I personally knew the history.

Ours get serviced regularly... once in a blue moon regularly that is.

Quite often I've jumped in vehicles that are up to 20,000 K's overdue.
Nobody does the interim service (oil and filter) and if the vehicle misses a milestone, say, 30,000 K's then they wait to 40,000 K's so the servicing doesn't double up.
If it misses 40 then... well, you can see a pattern here eh...

Hi
Thanks guys for the info so far and with what you have all said about a 4.5 or 4.8 what years should i be looking at. Keep in mind I want secondhand and would not be buying unless it is RACQ inspected either. What would be a fair amount of kilometres and what price range should i expect.

Ronnieh

Don't put to much faith in the inspection. My car was cleared with no significant issues on inspection. 3 months later I had a new radiator/engine/LPG converter and a lot of moula out of pocket.

I have a 98 4.5L GU which is on both Petrol & Gas.
When I purchased mine I had the Inlet Ports on the Head enlarged which made the Motor breath better with better pulling Power.
I achieve 18 Litres per Hundred K's on Gas. 15 Litres per Hundred K's on ULP.
24 Litres per one hundred K's towing my Jayco Pop Top on Gas The Pop Top is 1400 Kg's
Gas Prices are now a lot better 53 cents per Litre in Bendigo.
Would recommend either a 4.8 or 4.5
BTW my Motor has 310,000 K's on it and runs extremely well.

Hi again
Well have been looking. Why is it so hard to get something that hasn't had a lift kit, big tyres and heaps of mods. I just want a good car with roof racks, bull bar, awning and maybe a lift would be ok. So far looked at a GU -asked how much beach and mud it had seen and owner said beach a couple of times and hardly any mud-looked at his facebook page and wouldn't go near it.
So if i looked at something late 99 or early 2000 in a 4.5 or 4.8 what sort of kilometres would be average for a car of that year and would like to stay away from Turbo. Would anyone consider a 3l diesel-no turbo. I would not be towing much if at all and then only a camper trailer. Would leave the boat to the GQ.

I find there are a few out there but am worried about secondhand-- but can't afford new and don't like the look of them anyway. Older is much preferred. Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys

Ronnieh

Factor in 20,000k a year for modest K travelled per year
meaning a 2000 model will have around 300,000k on the clock

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Originally Posted by Ronnieh

Would anyone consider a 3l diesel-no turbo. I would not be towing much if at all and then only a camper trailer. Would leave the boat to the GQ.

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Hey mate, no such thing as a non-turbo 3L diesel Patrol.
You've got the 3L turbo diesel, 2.8L turbo diesel, 4.2L turbo and non turbo diesel, or the 4.5 and 4.8 petrol versions.

I bought mine 10 months ago as a stockie only had bar and winch.
They are out there, just keep looking.

Hi all

Thanks for your input on what I should look at-- Found a couple I might of been interested in until I checked out a couple of facebook pages and saw what the owners had been doing with the cars. Asked one whether it had seen Mud or Beach--answer was keep it out of the mud and only been up beach a couple of times--Yeh right.

I have found my dream Petrol Patrol. 2001 ST Model with 130,000 on the clock. Owned by an older couple who had planned to be grey nomads but because of illness that did not happen. One Owner since new, Immaculate condition--never on the beach, full service history, new tyres, Spotties, rego, Roadworthy.

One Happy Lady here.

Thanks for your ideas and advice again guys.

Ronnieh

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Originally Posted by Winnie

Hey mate, no such thing as a non-turbo 3L diesel Patrol.
You've got the 3L turbo diesel, 2.8L turbo diesel, 4.2L turbo and non turbo diesel, or the 4.5 and 4.8 petrol versions.

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Hi

Lots of info- wasn't sure if all Diesels were turbo??.

Wasn't really looking at Diesel but suppose they were worth asking about.

Anyhow thanks but have stopped looking now. Found my next patrol- 4.5 L petrol.

Ronnieh. ( might need to have my user name changed to Mrs to stop the confusion.)

Ronnieh you should know the rules it never happened without Pics and lots of them please
we love pics

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Ronnieh your should know the rules it never happened without Pics and lots of them please
we love pics

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Hope thats pics of new truck.
Here you go:Attachment 56804Attachment 56803

Nice and neat Patrol. Is that the one owner low km car you mentioned earlier?

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Originally Posted by Rock Trol

Nice and neat Patrol. Is that the one owner low km car you mentioned earlier?

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Hi
It sure is.

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Originally Posted by Ronnieh

Hope thats pics of new truck.
Here you go:Attachment 56804Attachment 56803

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nice and clean, I like the colour to
forgive them they did not know.
Now what are the plans<<<$$$$$$$$$

Hi
There really aren't that many plans if you are referring to big tyres, lifts etc. Our current GQ has all that stuff so as this is my everyday car I want to keep it pretty simple. I am looking at a nice alloy rack and awning, A snorkel maybe, dual battery set up and thats about it.
Its taken me forever to find something that hasn't been modified to the extreme and flogged to death.

Its my Truck and I love it just how it is.

Ronnie

sensible accessories, shade and some power for the fridge,
I could live with that.

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Originally Posted by Ronnieh

Hi
There really aren't that many plans if you are referring to big tyres, lifts etc. Our current GQ has all that stuff so as this is my everyday car I want to keep it pretty simple. I am looking at a nice alloy rack and awning, A snorkel maybe, dual battery set up and thats about it.
Its taken me forever to find something that hasn't been modified to the extreme and flogged to death.

Its my Truck and I love it just how it is.

Ronnie

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Eggzackery... and it looks like you have scored a cracker vehicle... enjoy

Hi All

Just an update. Finally got to take some pics of the babies.Attachment 57084

Mrs Ronnieh

Your alloy bar is able to be converted to a winch bar if you went that way,
but the GQ looks like the fun truck IMO

Hi
I thought I could convert it. Maybe later on. You are right the GQ is a fun truck but its well looked after to. We call it Beastie.

For now all I have done is bought rubber deep dish mats, back rubber liner and went to get me some seat covers but have to order them.

Alloy rack and snorkel comes soon.

Mrs Ronnieh