Sump plug tool - good idea

These are available from sca. I think they are a good idea.

Features:

Remove oil drain plug without touching the plug or hot oil.
NO touching HOT plug.
NO HOT oil on hands.
NO dropping of plug in HOT oil.
NO oil soaked gloves.
Just magnetically attach DRAIN PLUG PRO to pre-loosened drain plug and rotate to remove plug.
1. Loosen drain plug with wrench.
2. Place DRAIN PLUG PROTM on plug
so that the tool locks on the plug hex.
3. Rotate handle to remove plug.
4. Pull plug away from oil stream.
5. Magnetic DRAIN PLUG PROTM retains plug.

Damn you to a dark place, I have enough toys in the cave!

I would probably still make a mess.

I can get it out without getting any on my fingers :)

Jesus christ... must be a GU thing !!!!!!!

Cool idea. Pretty certain I'd still have oil everywhere. When I change the oil, it ends up looking like a engine massacre.

I had this little do-hicky thingy I bought for my Skyline when I owned it, it was like a little tap, with a lock on it, so you take the lock off shift a bit of metal to open the tap and out flowed the oil, it replaced my sump plug and was nice and cheap, $15 if I remember right. I was constantly scraping too because I'd lowered it unbelieveily and stupidly low, but the sump plug tap never got knocked off or let go. Wonder if they make em for my RD28 actually.... I think it was this:

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2014/06/32.jpg

From:
http://fumoto.com.au/

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Originally Posted by MrSka

I had this little do-hicky thingy I bought for my Skyline when I owned it, it was like a little tap, with a lock on it, so you take the lock off shift a bit of metal to open the tap and out flowed the oil, it replaced my sump plug and was nice and cheap, $15 if I remember right. I was constantly scraping too because I'd lowered it unbelieveily and stupidly low, but the sump plug tap never got knocked off or let go. Wonder if they make em for my RD28 actually.... I think it was this:

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2014/06/32.jpg

From:
http://fumoto.com.au/

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Looks good. Could it accidentally get turned on with a knock?

I would on a street car but I wouldn't trust it on a 4x4 but that's just me lol

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Originally Posted by NP99

Looks good. Could it accidentally get turn on with a knock?

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Well I'm not that experienced with Patrols..... but on my R33 it had a RB25 and once I nearly scraped the locking handle off, and it still did not open without me unlocking it and opening it manually. The biggest knock on it was turn 6 at queensland raceway..... I "rode" the inside ripple strip... at a fairly high speed.... it bent a lot of things underneath, even dented the sump and the plug had damage from it, yet was still there and still locked.

Check out this guy prior to using one, what a ham :)

http://youtu.be/pGT1hQL4TIA

Go Jim you good thing! Such a lame advert lol

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Originally Posted by NP99

These are available from sca. I think they are a good idea.

Features:

Remove oil drain plug without touching the plug or hot oil.
NO touching HOT plug.
NO HOT oil on hands.
NO dropping of plug in HOT oil.
NO oil soaked gloves.

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How much. I like the idea.

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Originally Posted by NP99

Check out this guy prior to using one, what a ham :)

http://youtu.be/pGT1hQL4TIA

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Wow. Just wow. Let's just say if Jim was my mechanic, I wouldn't be going back

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Originally Posted by Cuppa

How much. I like the idea.

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About $20 from memory.

I've got one on my Patrol. Search Fumoto drain valve. Costs around 40 bucks.
Best thing ever. The tap can be secured with clamp, hose clip, circlip or cable tie.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Rumcajs

I've got one on my Patrol. Search Fumoto drain valve. Costs around 40 bucks.
Best thing ever. The tap can be secured with clamp, hose clip, circlip or cable tie.

Cheers

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Cool, last one I had didn't have the nipple on the end, might give that one a go this time. I had a circlip around my last one, and was really impressed with it.

Had a fomoto on last 4B it was hidden above the sump bash plate. It had a barb to fit a piece of hose so draining the oil was a clean job. Cable tied it closed all the same.

The Nissan 4.2 is too exposed for me to use one.

Another thing the flow rate is very slow, so you need to leave it longer to drain. That can be a PITA.

here is the link to these valves and sizing charts
http://fumoto.com.au/

No magnet to catch metal fragments for indication of internal issues and to stop fragments doing more damage.

I personally dont see the need for any of this stuff..... I can imagine them trying to plug that tool to the Lions Den and being told no thank you I will not invest !!!!

With that other item as Megatexture said "No magnet?"

Its an ingenious solution to a problem that does not exist....

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Originally Posted by megatexture

No magnet to catch metal fragments for indication of internal issues and to stop fragments doing more damage.

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I've been around diesels for a very long time and yet to have seen enough metal on sump plugs magnets to indicate anything but total failure which would be noticed even before the plug was removed. If you want indication for internal issues than run oil sample analysis, its way better than waiting for metal fragments big enough to be stuck on the magnet.

Personally, I wouldn't use anything else, removing sump plugs is Neanderthal technology. After removing sump plugs for number of years, one more to remove is one to many! Absolutely hate the things and morons engineers who still keep fitting them and can't figure out something decent along with useless cheap arse manufacturing industry who flogs this stone age tech as the latest and greatest.

Cheers

Considering how cheap car manufacturers are do you think they would waste money on plugs with magnets on them if they didn't think they would be of some importance, sure its not much per car but it all adds up and they know that.

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Originally Posted by Rumcajs

I've been around diesels for a very long time and yet to have seen enough metal on sump plugs magnets to indicate anything but total failure which would be noticed even before the plug was removed. If you want indication for internal issues than run oil sample analysis, its way better than waiting for metal fragments big enough to be stuck on the magnet.

Personally, I wouldn't use anything else, removing sump plugs is Neanderthal technology. After removing sump plugs for number of years, one more to remove is one to many! Absolutely hate the things and morons engineers who still keep fitting them and can't figure out something decent along with useless cheap arse manufacturing industry who flogs this stone age tech as the latest and greatest.

Cheers

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Also a slight indication is filter medium deposits while it's a pain cutting open a filter once you can see a trend then you will notice if metal deposits increase. Working with heavy diesels myself this is something we do in conjunction with oil analysis. Sometimes even sending filter medium for analysis.

Mess is not as much of a problem as the HOT bit, I might just have to buy one (just won't change the oil with any mates around) - bit girly!!!!!!!!

Not sure about having a tap just waiting to leak, but I'm sure it's no different to a bolt leaking.

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Originally Posted by JonnoDe

Not sure about having a tap just waiting to leak, but I'm sure it's no different to a bolt leaking.

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I think the concern is to do with snapping the tap off....

I'd still end up with oil everywhere!

if you are concerned about metal filings just run a magnet through the oil to see if there is anything in it, simples :)

I scraped mine along the ripple strip of turn 6 at queensland raceway, dinted the sump, bent lower control arm, steering rack, and various other suspension damage, but funnily enough scraped the crap out of my tap, but it didnt come open. Each to their own tough, I'm nearly ready to throw my new engine in, and when I do it'll have one of those on it :D

G'day MrSka,
they say 'better late than never' but some young ladies prefer you get there on time. However, where ever.
Must say the device looks tidy (always did love brass fittings) but hanging down under a 4wd may not be so good.
Where'd you buy it? I searched what seems to be the make/model "FUMOTO E40" but got a bum message.
I'll be away from the web for a while but I'd appreciate some clues when I return.
Thanks,
Col.
p.s. I really hate having to take the troll out bush but someone's got to do it.

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Originally Posted by Col.T

G'day MrSka,
they say 'better late than never' but some young ladies prefer you get there on time. However, where ever.
Must say the device looks tidy (always did love brass fittings) but hanging down under a 4wd may not be so good.
Where'd you buy it? I searched what seems to be the make/model "FUMOTO E40" but got a bum message.
I'll be away from the web for a while but I'd appreciate some clues when I return.
Thanks,
Col.
p.s. I really hate having to take the troll out bush but someone's got to do it.

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you can grt them from here
http://fumoto.com.au/

I bought mine in a group buy organised on teh SAU (Skylines Australia) forums, so dont really know where they were purchased from in bulk. There was the same concerns posted by a lot of the SAU guys as well, so I am not surprised that the same issues are being raised here. I am not a salesman for them, just a happy customer.