HI can you enlighten me on this if this is true, saw some discussion of this but there was never a consensus... please want to know more about this
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HI can you enlighten me on this if this is true, saw some discussion of this but there was never a consensus... please want to know more about this
People use the 2T for lubrication as new diesel has a low lubricant in it. Extends life of component and some reports are gives better performance and fuel economy. Works well for some but not others...mixed reports
hi nisspat,
In your opinion would you use it.......
Look, I have tried it and noticed no difference in my CRD so I probably would not use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by raneydelrey
There are people out there that swear by it(especially the 4.2 guys), so try it for a couple of tanks and see how you go.
Good luck
Have been using Active 2T for some time in my TD42 an it does seem to make the engine run a little smoother an quieter.
HI nisspat and red92gq
seems that it will work on a 4.2 engine but what about the zd30?
NissPat - please, explain what is this 2T all about. Do we have this in PL?Quote:
Originally Posted by NissPat
2T is the type of 2 stroke oil you mix with regular unleaded petrol for use in chain saws etc. It is a mineral based oil, do not use synthetic based 2 stroke oils as they do not mix properly with diesel.
Tony
Check post #10 in this thread; http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...0-Engine-quietQuote:
Originally Posted by raneydelrey
Tony
Yes, sure. My old motobike used to fur on it.
So, what are proportions mixing diesel with 2T? I own Y60 with TD42T - so should be satisfied? Are there any problems later with hygiene of fuel system. Maybe doses of this oil makes pump or injectors rotten?
Sorry if this was already mentioned - then help me out with some link
The recommended mix is 200:1. I'm yet to hear of any negative side effects as long as mineral based oils at 200:1 mix is used.
Check this thread also; http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...ghlight=stroke
Tony
I am scared to do this... hehehehe fuel quality here in manila is a mess.... and was getting confused with if it is only good in the DIESEL or Petrol
So 200 to 1 what would that be to the main tank empty and to the sub tank empty?
It's 1 litre of 2T to 200 litres of diesel, so 95 litre main tank would take about 450ml of 2T and about 150ml to 30 litre sub tank..........I think? I'm hopeless at maths.
Tony
Stay away from synthetic oils, they don't mix properly with diesel. Any of the mineral based oils should be ok, Castrol 2T is known to be good.
Tony
Ynot correct about the ratios 475ml for 95L diesel and 150ml for 30L sub - would you use it in a 2009 ZD30 with 20000 Kmls
I don't know that it would be a great benefit on such a late model, they were designed for low sulpher diesel.
Tony
IIRC 2-stroke should only be added to earlier diesel engines. If your engine has a catalytic convertor, two-stroke may stuff it - again, IIRC.
Use cheap mineral-based two-stroke; two-stroke oil was designed to burn. You can't really "overdose" on it, in fact your engine will run fine on 100% two-stroke oil.
I've been adding it to my 1994, because the fuel quality in Ukraine is sometimes "hit or miss," or rather, "miss or really miss." I get some funky Russian brands of oil which are probably as dubious as the diesel fuel here.
Thought I would dig up this thread and post some of my results..
I have a 2002 GU 3.0 ZD30..
I for the past couple of weeks have been running 200-250ml of Castrol Active 2T into my 95l of diesel and I can honestly say it has made a difference.. Was abit skeptical at first, but overall I'm impressed.. Had my housemate and Father both ask what I did to the motor as was a lot quieter and smoother (especially on cold mornings)..
I would have no problems recommending this to other people
Yep, good stuff, go for it.
I used the Active 2T because it apparently mixes the best with diesel, not sure about the one you bought though.. I imagine it would be ok as long as its a mineral oil.. Cant be 100% thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
From what I understand Plassy, as long as its not the synthetic one you should be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
from the goss is has to be mineral to mix
So whats the plan now Fletch, are you going to regularly do this each time now or?Quote:
Originally Posted by big_fletch
I wouldn't mind giving this a shot myself too...
would a good idea before you use itQuote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
Probs not every time I fill up, maybe every second or third fill.. But I have been very impressed with it so farQuote:
Originally Posted by AB
Yer I would check just to be sure mate, I think you should be ok but better to be safe than sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
Sounds like a good idea mate, just to make sure its def mineralQuote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
The internet doesnt really confirm It's mineral either mate...The keywords Castrol 2T self mix and the word "Mineral" arn't showing up anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
Unless someone can 100% confirm I wouldn't try it either...
Can't take it back and swap it for the active?
Ahhhh well lol.. Will be interesting to hear some other peoples reactions when they try the 2T oil
I have used it for the second tank and noticed an improved economy, before I use it, it traveled about 550km for the main tank. This second tank with Activ 2T, it traveled 612km so far and the low fuel warning has not turn on yet. The engine seems running smoother but that can be contributed to the dawes valve that I put in recently. I will continue to use it further. It is not a cheap additive as it will cost about $6 per fill so I will look around for better price.
On the other word, Activ 2T is waht everyone uses, I read somewhere that do not use marine one as well as they have amonia for salt water corrosion inhabitant or some sort, so it not suitable although they are some how cheaper. I will stick with activ 2T and just get the cheapest I can get.
Also I would not use it on any common rail diesel as the pump produces over 15000psi and has very fine tolerance, they are also designed to be fed with low sulfur diesel so the 2T oil would not benefit as much.
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/multi...tentId=7000951
"CASTROL 2T TWO-STROKE OIL
A mineral based lubricant..."
although there's a chance this could be talking about activ...
I've been using 2 stroke in my 4.2td for the last couple of months and have been achieving on average about 100km extra out of every tank.
For example my last tank of 95L I did a four day trip to stradbroke (sand driving=bad fueal economy) plus a trip from redlands to kenilworth and back.
I got a total of 943km out of that tank .
The oil I use is motorbike 2T from caltex, the non synthetic stuff and it has worked a treat and I would recomend to anyone.
Can't coment on reducing noise as I purely used it for fuel economy and wasn't really paying atention :)
Hey num how much or what percentage 2t do you use please as I wouldn't mind giving this a go . Even though winter is coming & will get better economy it will still be worth trying.
Quantities would be great to know
Cheers tonyD
I use about 400ml to a 95L tank, but i just measure off the side of the bottle, nothing to percise.
I was told a 1:400 ratio is good, and I figured it's close enough to 100L hehe. but then I still put that in when it's not a full fill e.g 75-80L.
But yeah defs try it, has made a world of differance to my fuel economy
ummm? Num! your maths is a little out mate! if someone said that you should be using 1:400 ratio the you should be putting about 250ml per 100lt tank. 400mls would be closer to 1:250. 237mls would be 1:400 into a 95lt tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by num_301
Your Fuel figures look extraordinary too mate, Wow! 950km per tank! that is 9.5L to 10L /100km. in the sand. wow. My GUIV TD42Ti is lucky to get 750km out of the two tanks (115L used) I just put in a Long Range rear tank and can now get a little over 1100kms
What is your setup Num? what car? what tyres? what size Tyres?
Cheers MR
Yeah most likely lol, but yeah I use 400ml per main tank and about 300ml in my sub
It is pretty standard at the moment and because of the fuel economy I don't really wana do many engine mods. It's on standard 265/75-r16 tyres and a 3" straight through, only 2" lift also.
The car is a 2002 4.2td ute coil cab. alloy tray and usually have 2-3 bike on the back (bout 100-120kg each plus gear) or camping stuff.
It has about 230,000kms on it also.
Any othe questions I'd be happy to answer.
Note that only about 450km's was on the beach (bout half a tank). Also I'm not a very sedate driver, esspecially not on the beach so I Am quite happy with the fuel figgures.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
What sort of setup are u running for that sort of economy??
35's and the works or pretty standard?
Yeah 35s so the figures need to be adjusted for the Odometer correction. (about 10%) a 3" lift and Roof Rack. Fuel turned up Way Way too high ;) and a bit too much boost ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by num_301
Got a crossing of the Madigan Line in about 8 weeks so will be tuning it down some for that, fitting 285s and i might give the 2stroke a go for that too.
There was a massive thread on this subject on the other Patrol forum but unfortunately like all other things there its GONE! Damn!