Not the best pic but dated from 1913 not 1918 as I thought. I think they called them the butchers bayonet. This one is un sharpened, I believe it to be German in origin, steel is Solinger.
blade is a good 300mm long
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Not the best pic but dated from 1913 not 1918 as I thought. I think they called them the butchers bayonet. This one is un sharpened, I believe it to be German in origin, steel is Solinger.
blade is a good 300mm long
Its in good nick for the age, i saved a copy of the bayonet and sheath and see if the guy at work has the book with him tonight and will confirm it.
Latest 1 I picked up;
Attachment 32682
1949 Belgian Bayonet from the ABL sub machine gun made by Fabrique Nationale
Never underestimate the power of the darkside, let the tap flow through you.
TD, it is a German WW1 Sapper's bayonet with sawback.
Pommel is the stylised eagle which is prominent of german knives of that era. Haven't been able to confirm which rifle it's from but NATO tried to have banned ad it was believed by them that when someone was skewered, it caused more damage which apparently didnt occur as the saw back is similar to what you would find on any normal swiss army blade.
Never underestimate the power of the darkside, let the tap flow through you.
Cool thanks for that I'll leave that info on a note with it.
They had that saw backed bayonet on pawn stars and they said it was the engineers that carried it good for barbed wire or something. Worth a few bob too
I've always known it as a German bayonet from 1913, and called the Butchers bayonet but google shows lots of different styles.
Value I have no idea, just an interesting piece from our war torn past.
Also have a bayonet from an AK-47 , I'm not sure how accurate it is I only brought it for its size, but heres some pics of it
damn that's in good nic, looks basically new
Is that a repo 3D?
I'd say so to me its brand new. and never been used that's for sure, but I have over 50 Knives easy maybe 100
haven't counted them,
The AK47 job has blade of maybe 150mm does that sound right, maybe all the WW1 bayonets were too long
for modern weapons
AK47 only cost me $15 I think
I thought it was an Eagles head until recently I heard it referred to as a dove head Bayonet,
I'll get a better picture
@ oncedisturbed did a little research and came across a 1910 imperial German butcher bayonet for the KAR98 mauser rifle
with pattern leather scabbard, sound ok to you, I have no idea
There are 5 different variants of the bayonet from 33-45 and none with a sawback as it was outlawed in WW1 with the Geneva Convention but they will fit most Mauser Rifles.
http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Ide...1933_1945.html
It appears that the saw back is a bastardised version of this bayonet in which they were taken back and modified to appear like the below but with a shorter blade;
http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Ide...2/B1015-1.html
This is a good sight to try and identify bayonets;
http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Ide...ion_guide.html
That's great info , now from looking through all those reference pictures and whats on Ebay
I'm yet to see another the same, am I looking in the right places, or did they convert {change}
bayonets in the field.
Edit ::found out its a very rare 1913 bayonet to suit the Gew98 rifle,
but even this one had a tin scabbard not leather like my example.
but the good thing is its very desirable to the collector because its rare
Bingo, found it but again no leather scabbard / frog;
http://www.anzacblade.com.au/ww1-ger...ack-p-127.html
Worth some good coin and your's probably more than this thread above due to it's condition and also the fact that is a leather scabbard and not a metal one. Made by E & F HÖRSTER SOLINGEN.
A lot of the one's I have found while researching your's have had an elongated blade which was a more standard format. Still trying to find where the leather scabbard / frog came from.
"IF" the bayonet and scabbard have matching number's, it's worth goes up as well.
Another good site for Bayonet's listed by Country, I don't believe this one is complete but a very good starting point
http://old-smithy.info/countrylist.htm
I'll post pics of the markings a bit later, that's the one I saw as well. On pawn stars they had one and were told they filed the sawback onto them with a file in the field.
My example has no file marks at all. This bayonet has no connection to my Family, so no family history to check
with no file marks it will a ridgey didge version, the scabbard has me stuffed so far
Price keeps going up hey lol
Heres some pics of the marks
the one crossed out says 48.R.10.168 above that is 183 0r 189
and to think I was going to use it as a sticking knife for pig hunting.
Glad I didn't now
Just realised its 100 yrs old now
I will hunt around for this number 48.R.10.168 which may be the serial type number or a regimental number, top of the blade with crown etc will be the maker's mark
Don't know my dates but would this be from the Boer war ?
I'll wait and see what you come up with
Nope, 1st issued in 1913 at the begining of WW1 to either German or Prussian Colonial troops.
1st Boer War 1880-81
2nd Boer War 1899 - 1902
more pics of the same
That soldier on guard duty looks like he has a leather scabbard,
But seems strange my leather scabbard survived in the humidity where the leather
grips [handle] didn't,,, Gunk on the blade is only Lanolin
Some recent additions.
1st is a field dressing kit
2nd is a generic (Xtactical) fixed blade hunting / survival knife
3rd is a generic (Xtactical) field blade with 4 way mounting options for belt, boot, webbing and inverted mounting
love to be lost in the bush with those beauties very nice OD
Have got a few more pics to load but MC keeps kicking me out when I try and upload.
The Xtactical ones are a pleasant surprise being an Anaconda make, they are pretty good quality and hold an edge fairly well so far. The most expensive I have recently purchased was the sidekick for $50 but on average nothing has cost more than $30.
Also recently picked up a pigeon pair fixed blade and matching fold back, leatherman sidekick, gerber multi tool, some key chain folding blades as well.
Ordered 13 other various others as well that I am still waiting for about a month now, if they are decent quality, I will be looking at bringing them in on a regular basis in lots of 5-10 depending on interest received with them.
Some are made with 440 stainless steel as well which will be interesting to see
As you may know I make knives as well, mainly exotic designed Damascus skinning,
Was going to do fillet knives for Forum members but some how forgot.
I've sent pics of my Bayonet to the Guy in the links for him to make an offer. If I decide to sell it I'll give you first go.
But as you already know its rare so not going to be cheap. got a few leatherman and Buck knives
Would love to see some of the ones you have made, in a lot areas it is becoming a dying art.
1 of the guys from work is an armoured by trade and was involved making the blasters and blaster rifles in The Empire Strikes Back and has become a knife maker as well, makes some awesome elvish blades with blued filigree scroll work not the blades.
Should be some pics on my vendor thread I think
Very interesting thread guys, thanks
Hi!Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
Russian military bayonets don't have sign CCCP or AK-47 like your.
Only serial № on blade, scabbard and handle.
for example
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...chmentid=36082
there are official types of bayonets for Kalashnikov
1949
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/153.jpg
1956 experimental
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/154.jpg
1959
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/155.jpg
1978
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/156.jpg
1989
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/157.jpg
More photo here http://rusknife.com/topic/5316-%D1%8...0%D0%BA%D0%BC/
May be this is demilitarized Eastern European type, or Chinese, they also produced AK and many other things lol
Cool thanks WM I see yours is the '78 model , that AK-47 one is only chinese and brand new.
Its my 1913 one that is of interest and very expensive ATM
Are those number a unit number or serial number of owner?
Original/ china pic is my Buck[wooden handle]
copy is resin handle, price difference over $140, go figure
The serial numbers will either be matching with the rifle serial number and / or regimental number or the soldier it was issued to.
Those buck knives look good.
Love the damascus steel kit it looks awesome with the swirls etc.
Just ordered a folding lock back DIY kit from the US earlier as well to try my hand at making 1 then will get a fixed blade kit and then design my own.
http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/produc...oducts_id=1028 - is the kit I ordered.
May need to pick your knowledge TD on template designs :)
Threedogs your damascus looks awesome!
Once I saw a knife that was made from Harley Davidsons wheel drive chain
like that
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/158.jpg
http://i076.radikal.ru/1212/ce/9ab601318ffd.jpg
Did they make the lot out of bike chain?
Sorry oncedisturbed I don't know. I saw it on the exhibition.
More info here: http://bikepost.ru/blog/30628/Vtoraj...mototsepi.html and on-line shop here http://russian-knife.ru/
If you need translate from RU to ENG ask me, I will try my best.
Another interesting hand made for reach man
USB Flash Drive - Blackwood, Tiger Fang, Silver & Gold 750
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/159.jpg
USB Flash Drive Leather Edition - Python & Stingray Skin, Gold 777
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/160.jpg
USB Flash Drive Fish Amber Edition - Golden Framework. Genuine Amber. Sapphire Blue Eyes.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/161.jpg
Awesome USB Flash Drive Unique Ivory Limited Edition Mammoth & Ivory Bone Inlaid Pure Gold 999 & Luxury Diamonds
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...013/10/162.jpg
And many other here http://www.vip-flash.com/
Great stuff, WM
@OD feel free to pick away I have plans at the laser cutters for a 25mm sander. great for shaping handles.
and please ask before you buy supplies some will rip you off real fast,
mosaic pins make a great finish for a special knife. I just brought 2 small antlers on Ebay for $10 hope to use it
as a handle [hidden tang] featuring the crown, My red gum fillet knife is only red gum firewood from Bunnings,
Cheers TD, have registered over at www.iknifecollector.com which is huge international forum / collector base for knives and other things ehich I found last night whilst looking for registered knife collector groups for possible up and coming side project if the minister approves
On the Australian bowhunter forum there was a bloke making knives out of chainsaw chain, they looked bloody awesome similar to the bike chain