STEINBAUER Performance chips explained. One Anally retentive engineer found out.

Ok so being an anally retentive engineer, after installing one of the new STEINBAUER Performance chips on my mates patrol, i wanted to know just how these things works, so i rang the guys at STEINBAUER Australia, who by the way are a great bunch of guys who really know their product inside and out.

I wanted to ask a few questions about just how things worked, power adjustment ect et.

1) Each chip, for individual markets, are firstly mapped and individually programmed to suit each car and fuel type dependent on their region.

2) The chips work buy extending the injection cycle, once again, dependent by each model, to a predetermined programmed maximum time, in case of the ZD30 CRD, its about a maximum of 240ms at 100% throttle point.

3) The potentiometer inside, allows for an additional plus/minus 30% off the maximum, so if the 240ms if maximum injector time, you can add and additional 30% thus making the maximum time 312ms.

I was told that this setting, maximum, should only really be used with a bigger exhaust and prominently for towing, as it only increases power marginally but improves the Tourqe.

In most cases, the standard setting is good for standard cars ie: 12 o'clock position, with an exhaust you can use about 1:30 position which will give a nice boost but still use more or less the same fuel. Lower settings are mainly used when there are issues with bucking and the like under throttle load.

4) The chip will not work when factory cruise control is utilised, when cruise is used on the highway. The chip needs to be connected to the throttle position sensor wire as it is activated through this. The chip works by activating, or should i say, starts augmenting the injector length at about 40% throttle position, noting that the chip assumes 100% TP is 3.3V, which happens to be about 80% TP voltage output for the ZD30. In short, at 25% TP position, the chip will start to work.

As the factory cruise control uses a computer generated TP infernal to the ECU, when in cruise, the chip does not work. The minute the TP is depressed , the chip will kick in.

NOW, the thing is, if you order the chip through STEINBAUER Performance AU, you can have it re-programmed to alternative pick up the boost line or other inputs, this will need to be done on an individual basis.

5) The chips are reprogrammable, not sure if local dealers can do this or it needs to go back to STEINBAUER for this to occur, but they are reprogrammable.

6) The chip has inbuilt safety, which differs from car to car, based on what market the chip has been set up for. For the ZD30 and AU, the chip will operate at a maximum 100% power for 30 seconds and then begins to drop by 1% to a minimum position of 10%, so never off but reduced much to ensure EGT are within acceptable limits.

6) On a 4 and 6 cylinder engines, the order of the injector loom is irrespective, as long as you do not cross the injectors over, it does not matter if the injectors run staring at the front of the engine to the back, or from the fire wall to the front. The chip, once plugged in and initiated, sought this out. The only time this matters is in a 5 cylinder engine such as the Volvo engines.

7) The chip can use more fuel, and certainly on my mates patrol it looks like we may have dropped about 2-3% in fuel economy, but this may be a bit due to the initial fun factor, hopefully once the novelty wears off it will settle down.

I have no affiliation with these guys and the above is my interpretation of our discussion, but as i found little details on these chip, i figured someone else would like to know this info.

If i am out of line and not exactly 100% spot on, please let me know and i will correct it for future reference

Hope you all get something out of it as i did

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Great info mate, thanks for looking into it.

Well written up mate. The information is spot on. Was supprised about the cruise control. I wonder if Diesel smart chips are the same. I must go and test.
Steve

Thanks Wogs.....

I was also interested to find out that it doesn't work under cruise control.

Great post... good research :)

IMO I think they are like most and just increase fuel as you go along,
its the same story from every chip seller/designer. My DP is great at 5 but blows shite loads of black smoke on say 7
that only tells me over fuelling, but it flies on 5 so for my 4x4 thats the "sweet spot" others may differ,. I use 15/100
towing my camper which weighs 1.5t easy

except DP chip plugs into the rail and the Stain plugs into each individual injector.

Thanks maybe they are able to map the fuel delivery and pressure easier that way. whats the price of them fitted??
of all the chips the Steinbauer and DP seem to be at the top of the xmas list

You would be mad to pay for someone to fit it only takes 30min to fit the first time 15 after that

They are about $1200 new for a stain, my mate got a new second hand one, from evil bay for $350 believe it or not, bargain of the century.

The DP chip is soooo easy to fit, perhaps 15 minutes tops. The Stain, is a also very easy but you need to be able to solder a wire as you need to pick up the Throttle reference signal wire, over all it took us under an hour once you know which wire it is and where to run the cable. We made the installation fully removable via plugs so that the power supply and the signal wire for the stain can be removed.

On a side note, don't over look chips like 'No Limits' and Race Chip, http://www.racechip.de/en/chiptuning, i have fitted at least two of these tpe of chips to different cars, one being a mazda 3, chip bumped it up from 380Nm to 490 Nm and 30kW extra at the treads.

If you are looking for a decent chip for the troll, i would use these guys, probably the pick of the bunch cos VS performance. ($450 AU delivered)

http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/...s-(common-rail)

Their sale support is second to non, the company that makes then is from Germany and this also plugs into each individual injector like a Stain.

Ok So my mte sent his data to me, regards fuel

He first tank, was mainly town driving, manage 965 km out of 113.2 L click to click on fuel fill
Second tank, towing a trailer for approx 150 km, plus a highway trip, 935km out of 110.5 L click to click on fuel fill

So that's an average of 11.7L/100, you got to be happy with that.

BLODDY bugga, i sooo want one....

I don't get that low going down a hill lol

mine comes close but thats redicilous

What was is fuel usagw before the chip do you know?

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I believe about mid 12's

I dont mean to rock the boat here. But the dirty ole mechanically injected 4.2 can pull fuel figures in the mid 12's and it has 2 extra cylinders and no electronics. I for one towing around the 3T mark can still get 17/100 and if Im nice to it when not towing can see high 11's. I know mine isnt completely stock but for the dollar spent on a chip I would want to see considerable gains in everything and as stated the steinbaur seems to do this. IMO you are mad fitting something that just changes fuel pressure cos this on its own can only deliver a certain increase. Its a pretty simple equation really, to make more power you need more fuel, more air etc and to get more fuel in the time of delivery needs to be longer, pressure does help but only so much, and being forced induction the extra air part is easy.

The point I am trying to make is if your gonna do it "do it once do it right", you may have to spend more up front but you are gonna be a lot more satisfied with the outcome.

Wogs'r'us you have put up some great info and I feel others should read this and take it into account before going down the path of a chip. Do the research and read up on everything be informed before purchasing a product and you will be content.

All i can say is that mine with an exhaust, manual, compared with his with a stock exhaust and stain is almost 7 seconds quicker to 100 Kph, HUGE difference. And yeah, stain connects to individual injector plus TP.

I got 1450km out of my 145lt tank 2.8td
cheers stevo.

No chip

hi all so what i have gathered so far is the exhaust pipe up grade seems to be the best in regards in improved power and performance in the short term

thanks for that mate i was wondering had the chip worked

Exhaust is good because it is cheaper, but the chip is a much bigger BANG for your buck IMO