http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHF8piaxDA
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all complaints to GM Holden....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHF8piaxDA
:furious:
all complaints to GM Holden....
Yep, was abusing the TV last night when I saw it.
At the 19 second mark we see the "snatch" start and pan up to see the chain attached to the tow ball. Lets hope the script writer has to attend the next Coroners enquiry into a towball death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHF8piaxDA
Among many errors and work safety practices ???
It beggers beleif .
I'm disgusted, that is a perfect demonstration of what NOT to do, nothing should ever be att. to a towball but a trailer!!
People new to 4 wheel drives would see that and not think twice about the safety risks.
So someone please tell me, in the event of a death or injury using that ute and the towball to recover something, WHO would you SUE??
Cheers, the ferret.
I just sent them an email telling them of there oversight!!!
And snatching with a chain to boot
Tappa tappa
I hope you also sent them a copy of the Coroners report regarding the most recent deaths by towball?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Cheers, the ferret.
That is beyond belief
They are people that build 4wds and also know nothing about 4wds.....
Tap, crackle, pop
No wonder those utes aint what they used to be!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
To be fair the people who designed/built the ute are not the people who made the ad
Tappa tappa
Like ads with utes running around a worksite towing a backhoe, falling over cliffs, filling the back full of coconuts or screaming through salt water. The list goes on and yeah take it with a pinch of salt as its never going to be real.
This shows a total lack of knowledge by the arts department, but who signed off on it?
A positive could be a fuss made over it, A Current Affair or whoever bring it to everyones attention. Then the safety message gets spread the ad pulled and Colarado all over the media. Win Win all round.
Yeah, your right. Falling off a cliff etc is quite obvious to the viewer that it's just a bit of a laugh but towing heavy loads from a towball makes people think that's what it's there for..... Chances are slim that your gonna roll your Ute off a cliff because you saw it on tv lol BUT chances are high that people will find themselves on a work site with a big load to pull and a towball on their Colorado and the add will spring to mind.
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I reckon the Colorado would burn the clutch out just dragging the chain!!, pretend 4 wheel drive LOL
Cheers, the ferret.
Speechless.
:furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:
Shame on you Holden....
I just posted an indepth comment on the Youtube video but it said pending approval after I pressed send....I doubt they will publish it but I'm sure this video will be removed....Well, I hope!
Can't believe they did that!
hopefully this will raise some publicity to the issue!
Tappa tappa
Hi. Thanks guys for confirming for me what I thought I saw! I have always been aware of the issue with tow ball recoveries thanks to a 4x4 introduction by someone years ago who passed on the dangers of that practice to me. This forum has certainly made it foremost in my mind if and when I need to snatch again. I saw the ad out the corner of my eye and had been waiting to see it again to confirm what I thought I saw. Very concerning.
For a start, If you drove anything on a building site at that speed you would be shown the door.
Cheers, the ferret.
I just left this comment on the youtube video, I wonder if it gets approved *L*
This ad should be taken off air, no one should ever attach anything 2 the tow ball for snatching.
WARNING: USING A SNATCH STRAP ON ANY TOW BALL CAN KILL PEOPLE!!!
Who ever signed off on this ad to be aired is a bloody moron.
I also left a comment. See what happens. Stupidity.
I also gave them a tongue lashing, I wonder if they will take me up on the Coroners reports, and I demanded it be removed forthwith.
But I doubt if it would even enter the thick heads of those responsible.
What needs to happen is a reporting to TV classification tribunal.
Cheers, the ferret
Saw this too. Could not believe it. Thought about writing to Holden myself and posting it here as well but was beaten to it. Good to see it is not just me appalled at this ad. Let's try to get it withdrawn
Just posted this on the Gubbermint website.
Hi I am a member of various 4x4 forums and I have come across this video depicting a towball recovery, this is a well known death trap and I demand that something is done to remove it from the media.
I can furnish you with Coroners findings on the deaths caused by towball recoveries.
This advertisment should not have been aired in my opinion and I would like you to investigate, after you have banned it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHF8piaxDA
Yours, Ferret Tools WA
Members can send their comments to safety@commerce.wa.gov.au
I just posted this, don't expect to see it published!
What idiot thought it was a good idea to snatch using a chain attached to a towball. I suggest you look up the Coroner reports on deaths caused bu this very practice, then consider your duty of care to the public, then withdraw this add from TV and Youtube.
If you have any scruples you might then put out a public apology for promoting practices that can and have caused death.
I think it would be a good idea if as many as possible could could post a comment here, try and keep it respectable tho, the Gubbermint are not to blame as far as I see it, they are just well behind the 8 ball, as can be expected.
Here's the link again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHF8piaxDA
And this is where you send it safety@commerce.wa.gov.au
Cheers, the ferret.
PS, I can't see me getting a new Colorado for free after this!!
I have just watched it again and it is simply to worst thing I have ever seen in a Tv ad.
Not only is the chain around the tow ball but the other end is wrapped around the bumper of the bogged truck......
The only saving grace is a heavy chain will fall quickly. But, I too was dismayed at this and the one where the car goes in the lake and is recovered by snatch over tow ball by tow truck.
Tim
i too have commented on it giving a mouth full and wouldn’t expect our comments to be added and i also reported it to youtube to put it up for review if everyone can do that they will have to consider what’s wrong with the vid they give you a few options to report it under can’t remember what they are but i think i selected the last one and i also disliked the vid its currently got more dislikes then likes.
edit: i flagged it under "harmful dangerous acts" then selected other dangerous acts
I did that too actually...Quote:
Originally Posted by megatexture
Also noticed the dislike bar is growing fast on that Youtube video tonight....lol
Far out. With stupidity like that it's no wonder 4wds are becoming known as 'dangerous'
I wrote to Holden, requesting that the add be removed, and I also lodged a complaint with the Advertising Standards Bureau. http://www.adstandards.com.au/
hope that holden gets slammed over this!
Cheers!
The airborne towball doesnt fall to the ground quickly though.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Finly Owner
Mentioned this at last nights club meeting, sent the youtube link when I got home.
Got this response thismorning from one of our members.
Thanks for sending the link to the ad. It’s a shocker alright. I had a look at the ACMA website and it is not the right place to lodge a complaint. The correct place is http://www.adstandards.com.au/
Click the Lodge a complaint box. You then get asked 6 questions and if you respond correctly get a form to fill online.
The other place to flag this is to media watch. http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/contactus.htm
And of course the 4wd associations. http://www.4wdnsw-act.asn.au/contact.php NSW
http://www.anfwdc.asn.au/contact.php (National)
Unbloodybelievable
I have just had my say on the http://www.adstandards.com.au/ website. For question 6 I ticked that the add concerns children. I believe it does because they are potentialy in the firing line straped in an elevated back seat.
Am also going to email Holden directly. I have done this in the past and have always gotten a response.
Lets hope we can get this removed.
bazzad
Spoken like a man returning to bearded bliss!
I agree with yuo Plassy i have seen a chain slingshot but it was attached to two BIG ARSED tractors, it went off like a rocket, however it stayed very low. The issue with the ad it is putting out there to use a towball as a recovery point, which we all know is just not on
You do have a point there Plassy, however a tow ball is made for a trailer or caravan etc, demonstrating that a towball should be used at all for recovery I think is wrong.
Having been in heavy earthmoving for almost 50 years, I have seen chains snap under shock loads and seen shackles and hooks go flying.
The chain in itself is not that bigger danger altho I would not like to be anwhere near one when it snaps.
By demonstrating that you could pull a bogged 3.5 ton trailer with the towball as a recovery point is sending the wrong message, many would think that a chain or snatch strap is safe, just from watching the add.
But not everyone has the common sense when hooking up a chain or strap, and this is why people die.
Your point is truly noted Plassy, thankyou for that.
Cheers, the ferret.
Plasnart,
Yes chains stretch. You may not see it but they do. I have a dogmans ticket and I can tell you I have seen the results of snapped chains in industry. Nobody can predict where they go or how far. I have seen shackles hitting roofs of workshops and i have also seen overhead gantry cranes with the multible rope hooks turned inside out from broken chains after the load has dropped.
It may not look like much on a chain but the ball is not connected to the chain so it will fly. Once it breaks the implement used to break it (strap,chain,rope or wire) does not matter, it is the amount of force applied just before it breaks that sends it flying.
Chains used for recovery.
Here are a some vidiots I found on Youtube. The first one is not very clear but becomes interesting at the 53 second mark, the second one becomes interesting at the 9 second mark, the third one gets interesting around 4:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKXwrOKRK1k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ed2HviJDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845cxykfDns
That last one illustrates exactly what can happen. Thanks for posting tim.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimE
Tap, crackle, pop
Exactly why theyre called drag chains and not snatch chains.