Toughest Patrol??? GQ or GU

Did I see someone mention GU coil supports!!!@!????? Lmfao

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Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

Yeah, he will see me crawl up Big Red no dramas and lure him into a false sense of security, good thinking Benny!

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Originally Posted by Winnie

Yeah, he will see me crawl up Big Red no dramas and lure him into a false sense of security, good thinking Benny!

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there will be no false sence of security when you are on your roof hahahahah

Yeah but she'll be right it's a GQ just roll it back on it's wheels and keep going lol

Back to you Georgie boy. Any of your arguments I see as null and void my friend with the fact your looking at an engine swap. The word practicality comes into mind with toughness. Have a look at any comp seen most are gq's. yes they use gu diffs but the only difference here is cv joint size the rest is still all the same. A GQ is tougher straight of the box hence why myself and mud runner own both. The GQ for the hard and rough and the GU for the comfortable touring.

Back to your engine swap. You will certainly be making the car weaker if you choose the Chev route while bolt parts and aftermarket is great, their longevity and reliability isn't great compared to that of a well maintained Nissan donk. As for your suspension worries show me any decent drag, race or street car that doesn't have some form o modified suspension.

As for the the earlier remarks about rocky track, if you can't get up this in a standard gu ( maybe a 2" lift as most are these days) then you should put a for sale sign on it straight up.

Bring on September I say ;)

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Originally Posted by Great Southern Camping

Oh George ... what have you done?

I'll tell you ...

Started something that you're going to regret!! lol

On ya my little Lebanese mate, at least you're sticking to your guns!!! lmao

By the way, we roll into Victoria in September - sooooooo, book your leave now and make sure your "other" car is running well .... you'll need it to get to work the week after we head out and hit the tracks!!

LOVE IT!!!!!!! After a crap day, I finally have a smile on my face ....

Just so people are aware (and I'm not someone who pisses in pockets), having spent a weekend with him working on Healy's truck, I can say without hesitation that George is a bloody good lad - misguided and naive, but a bloody good lad none the less!!! lol


Scotty (Bigrig)

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Thanks mate, your a top bloke aswell ! Jus keep the cloths on mate haha

I'm one stubborn GREEK ( not hairy enough to be a lebo and i don't spit that much when i talk, do i ?? PML!) that wont back down for nothing, the bollocks are too big for my own good lol.

I can't take leave but if its around a public holiday or the weekend i'll be there and the GU wont let me down so no need for my other car, unless you QLDERS knock stuff off it to "enhance" your Q's haha...

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

never has the dribble from your mouth/ keyboard been so true.... lmfao

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I thought you would like this comment lmao

BTW GU's rule and GQ's pull !!!! GQ drivers drink wine and have a pee, GU drivers drink beer and take a PISS! Lol

Not picking on Georgie but he seems to be the only one on team GU lol.

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Originally Posted by Winnie

George what are you getting yourself into!? These 3 QLD GQs are going to make mince meat out of your soccer mum GU!

Hey Benny, George is gonna come with me to do Big Red!

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Keep your pants on big boy, my U will chew up that big red, isn't that tomato sauce anyway lol

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Not picking on Georgie but he seems to be the only one on team GU lol.

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DW Matty 1 greek = 10 men so all good lmao

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Originally Posted by Great Southern Camping

Listen to you!! Little Taliban marathon runner suggesting we'd sabotage your truck just to gain advantage ...

Well ...

Yes ....

We would ...

But it wouldn't change the outcome!!! lmao

Stick to your guns fella - but you're going to be in for an eye opener!!!

p.s. do the clothes really have to stay on??


Scotty (Bigrig)

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All i'm saying is YES and NO, you choose what answer they fit hahahahaa

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

DW Matty 1 greek = 10 men so all good lmao

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Maybe 10 Victorian men or whatever they are :p. Us QLDers are only comparable to legends.

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Back to you Georgie boy. Any of your arguments I see as null and void my friend with the fact your looking at an engine swap. The word practicality comes into mind with toughness. Have a look at any comp seen most are gq's. yes they use gu diffs but the only difference here is cv joint size the rest is still all the same. A GQ is tougher straight of the box hence why myself and mud runner own both. The GQ for the hard and rough and the GU for the comfortable touring.

Back to your engine swap. You will certainly be making the car weaker if you choose the Chev route while bolt parts and aftermarket is great, their longevity and reliability isn't great compared to that of a well maintained Nissan donk. As for your suspension worries show me any decent drag, race or street car that doesn't have some form o modified suspension.

As for the the earlier remarks about rocky track, if you can't get up this in a standard gu ( maybe a 2" lift as most are these days) then you should put a for sale sign on it straight up.

Bring on September I say ;)

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Firstly don't the GU diffs have a wider track??
Secondly most drag cars get re built every meet to make sure they are still serviceable and they also get scrutinized before every meet to check for stress fractures and to make sure their mods are legal.

I was tossing up between a td42 or the ls1, more so the ls coz i already have a motor sitting doing nothing but was in 2 minds about it. Just depends what the bank account looks like when i make up my mind, so that story will be continued lol.

Whats rocky track ?? Lol

I think someone else said something about rocky track.

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Maybe 10 Victorian men or whatever they are :p. Us QLDers are only comparable to legends.

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Come on mate we all know once you take a QLDer out of the sun for too long and its all over lol, its like you guy seize up or something lmaoo

Someone earlier said that they have long arms I'm just wandering how do u find them and do u think that they r worth it or do u suggest to just get some adjustable once.
Also I'm looking at putting 4.11 diffs in my 4.8 auto but the gu didn't come with the 4.11 in the back with the small diff so it looks like I'm going to be looking at u gq boys for diffs

As and a 2 inch lift mine doesn't even have that so I had to crawl up on stock hight suspention stock tyres with 36 psi in them and I was still dragging my diffs and factory side steps.
Also when I bought my 4.8 ti I was also looking at gq's but it's hard to find good once these days that don't cost the same as a gu

Long arms are certainly worth it. Why do you want to change ratios? You don't need GQ diffs as such just any rear but the gu has a wider track.

I'm hearing ya about the prices there is a GQ advertised up here for 35k.

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Just tap it in just tappy tappy tappy

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Someone earlier said that they have long arms I'm just wandering how do u find them and do u think that they r worth it or do u suggest to just get some adjustable once.
Also I'm looking at putting 4.11 diffs in my 4.8 auto but the gu didn't come with the 4.11 in the back with the small diff so it looks like I'm going to be looking at u gq boys for diffs

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the long arms are awsome. I dont know why Mudrunner hasnt put them on the GQ yet :):thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::tease:

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

DW Matty 1 greek = 10 men so all good lmao

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one of my best mates is greek... bloody stubborn wog basterd he is

My gq is tough because its a patrol. You're gu is tough because it too is a patrol. Nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Parksy

My gq is tough because its a patrol. You're gu is tough because it too is a patrol. Nuff said.

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But yours is the tougher of the two... Lol

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

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Originally Posted by Parksy

My gq is tough because its a patrol. You're gu is tough because it too is a patrol. Nuff said.

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Theres no room for fence sitters here!!

FanTapstic!

Every one who has a GU and a GQ ( Matty and Daz ) can't comment!! Lol

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Long arms are certainly worth it. Why do you want to change ratios? You don't need GQ diffs as such just any rear but the gu has a wider track.

I'm hearing ya about the prices there is a GQ advertised up here for 35k.

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The reason I want to change ratios is because the 4.8 autos eaven with standed tyres are to tall at 3.5 and I want to run 33's as my on road tyres and 35-36's off road so the 4.11 would be about perfect. I'm not after the hole diff and housing just the ring and pinion and the gu doesn't have any models with the 4.11's in the small h233 diff but the gq dose if that makes sence

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

Every one who has a GU and a GQ ( Matty and Daz ) can't comment!! Lol

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They will both say that they use the GQ for the rough stuff because it's tougher, and the GU for comfort because they're sissies LMAO!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

I know the gq's were used for military applications, anyone know if the gu's were used?

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

Every one who has a GU and a GQ ( Matty and Daz ) can't comment!! Lol

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Having both makes them far more worthy of commenting!
And both their GUs would eat your GU for breakfast!

FanTapstic!

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Originally Posted by Parksy

I know the gq's were used for military applications, anyone know if the gu's were used?

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not that I know of.
unless someone come up with a mititary spec gu I think you have finished the arument lmao

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Originally Posted by taslucas

Having both makes them far more worthy of commenting!
And both their GUs would eat your GU for breakfast!

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And both their GQs would eat their GUs for breakfast!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

The difference is the 0 care factor for the GQ its like wearing your suit to change your engine oil

Come on George.... Apparently you've seen Darrens GQ, so just how tough is it?

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

The difference is the 0 care factor for the GQ its like wearing your suit to change your engine oil

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Yeah that's right, you don't care about driving a Q on gnarly tracks because you know you won't hurt it. But you have to take care of your towny GU

FanTapstic!

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Originally Posted by Winnie

Come on George.... Apparently you've seen Darrens GQ, so just how tough is it?

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

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In appearance very, with the GU diffs i'd say 10% tougher!! Turbo diesel exhaust note, makes you want a diesel lol the GU 4 on the other hand has a more menacing stance!!

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Originally Posted by taslucas

Yeah that's right, you don't care about driving a Q on gnarly tracks because you know you won't hurt it. But you have to take care of your towny GU

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The GU can handle the rough stuff too just will put a bigger hole in you pocket.

I just remembered, on a GU the stabilizer bar is almost 2.5 times as thick as the GQ's!!

The UN peace keepers use GUs.

My GUIV is a Tough Tourer. My GQ is an extreme car and has been set up for that purpose. Short trip stuff. You can't expect to USE it hard core and expect it to then do a 5000km touring trip! Regardless of a GU or GQ it just not fair to the car or the rest of the trip.

If you have a GU setup like my GQ with all the bar work then Play Hard. Mine still has a plastic rear bumper and it took a few hits the other week at Tallarook. Would prefer not to wreck it.

The GU is way more comfortable but is WAY WAY bigger too! And in the bush in the tight stuff it rubs on more stuff.

If you just want the comfort then seriously buy a 200 series! Nice! But not a patrol!

I reckon they both ROCK! They are both Nissan Patrols and both have a TD42T! Life is good

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

The UN peace keepers use GUs.

My GUIV is a Tough Tourer. My GQ is an extreme car and has been set up for that purpose. Short trip stuff. You can't expect to USE it hard core and expect it to then do a 5000km touring trip! Regardless of a GU or GQ it just not fair to the car or the rest of the trip.

If you have a GU setup like my GQ with all the bar work then Play Hard. Mine still has a plastic rear bumper and it took a few hits the other week at Tallarook. Would prefer not to wreck it.

The GU is way more comfortable but is WAY WAY bigger too! And in the bush in the tight stuff it rubs on more stuff.

If you just want the comfort then seriously buy a 200 series! Nice! But not a patrol!

I reckon they both ROCK! They are both Nissan Patrols and both have a TD42T! Life is good

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Thats exactly what I expect mine to do. If I set it up right I dont think I am expecting too much.

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

Thats exactly what I expect mine to do. If I set it up right I dont think I am expecting too much.

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Yeah but yours is set up for a different kind of Hard Ben. Slow Rock Crawling with Treps and reduction gears is difficult, great fun and tough as hell but not really that taxing on the car in real terms. Playing Hard in teh Mud and scrub down this end and in and out of Bog holes and belting the crap out of your car really does take its toll.

In saying that though, one of the guys i did the Madigan Line with was in his GQ and also did the Mud trip with me in his GQ and took its toll. he now says that he has to choose, his car is a Tourer and carries the weight of a Touring car and is not the best setup for flogging into the Otways.

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Yeah but yours is set up for a different kind of Hard Ben. Slow Rock Crawling with Treps and reduction gears is difficult, great fun and tough as hell but not really that taxing on the car in real terms. Playing Hard in teh Mud and scrub down this end and in and out of Bog holes and belting the crap out of your car really does take its toll.

In saying that though, one of the guys i did the Madigan Line with was in his GQ and also did the Mud trip with me in his GQ and took its toll. he now says that he has to choose, his car is a Tourer and carries the weight of a Touring car and is not the best setup for flogging into the Otways.

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ahh ok sorry I understand where you are coming from now. I agree after seeing the damage you do I cant really argue that point :P.