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Yeah, I've had one blowout so far... about 3 inches from the Compressor.
Mine has a joiner about 2 feet from the Compressor and since that blowout I carry a spare hose (that thin hard placcy shit) made up.
I suspect the joiner is there 'cause the prev owner had blowout issues but he used the Air heaps more than me as it was a true work ute for him.
If it blows on a regular basis I'll change to better hose as well, just too lazy at the moment
Thanks Guys, I will mount the tank then decide which way I go. Air on Board sell 750mm and 1500mm braided outer high temp rubber hoses but they are dear, $50 - 80 each, plus they also sell a non return valve kit with the hose as this is required to limit back pressure on the compressor. Anyway, just somethiong else to think about on the never ending journey of getting the truck set up.
FWIW just scribbled out a mud map of my current air system reworks still underway. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...017/12/127.jpg
The water separator/filter you kindly assisted with Phil is essential IMHO. All points on the map coloured ‘red’ are still needing upgrades. Previously running air without filtration has caused corrosion on both the inside of the crappy ARB locker tank and my silly purchase of a ‘steel’ under tray chassis tank. Rust proof tanks will be required one day and further line upgrades needed too in ‘red’ also. Thinking about adding in some isolation taps around the truck too just in case. Tyre valves are needed too near each air bag in case I may need to manually pump up off another convoy member if the system ever goes down completely.
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Ah, looks like about as complicated as you can make it - excellent stuff!!!! Heaps of functionality and versatility though. Like the idea of the redundancy point regards emergency pump up by others.
Ah, looks like about as complicated as you can make it - excellent stuff!!!! Heaps of functionality and versatility though. Like the idea of the redundancy point regards emergency pump up by others. Anything downstream of the reservoir can be 'cheapish' as long as it handles the pressure. temp in not a factor after the receiver. On your spare port marked 'external air port' I would look at a dump valve, so at the end of the day you can get rid of any moisture that has accumulated in the tank downstream of the water seperator and clear the lines totally for extreme cold weather stuff.Air On Board have a cheap dump valve circa $15 from memory that would do the trick, see here
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Drain-va...YAAOSwrfVZUxz5
Sweet thanks mate! Yeah the 20L tank does already have a drain/dump valve in the lowest part. Have been meaning to add a full dump lever type valve on the spare external side port for tyre bead blasting. Currently it’s just an ARB push in jobbie that still restricts air dump somewhat and also sh1ts me that only ARB air hose can be used! So...my idea is for a lever ball type valve prior to a larger Nitto type fitting.
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Tyre bead seating, think this would need a big port? I have always fitted a tube after getting a puncture, never tried a fully tubeless refit.
https://youtu.be/FZGvAqqlm7U
Much safer than using explosive aerosols! Key seems to be removing the tyres valve also.
To be honest I doubt I’ll ever need it as most of us carry the same size/brand spares up there :-)
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You pair have me thinking (and drinking) which makes my head hurt...
"TPC" is used by the millions of metres in industry pneumatics so maybe the blowouts are due to a combo of really hot ambient air from the engine bay getting drawn thru the compressor and superheated.
The place it blows out seems to be right near the Comp.
Water traps in mine are the usual water condensate drain valve in the bottom of the 20 litre tank and a low press air reg when I get around to fitting it.
Was thinking of putting one in the Tank supply line now I've seen MBs sketch but curious regards efficiency as the air will be hot as #@$%.
Dump valve won't work for water on the air supply port as it is centred but would def be an idea for the drain port
Rear air bag setup is overly complicated IMHO and will maybe cause heartache.
Maybe better to 'tee' the inflation/deflation lines close to the bags as you want the same pressure in them anyway
Indeed, I don't quite see the point of being able to adjust either side individually from the cab but pressure gauge in cab is a good idea.
Air bags (ride levelling not full air suspension) are recommended to be inflated prior to loading by some manuf.
Mine run two lines about a metre long to the check valves which are right beside my Charge Air point on the side of the tray.
My Supply is a standard line about a metre long (if that) from the Tank Supply Port to the Charge Air Valve.
I carry a little placcy box of M to F and F to M charge air fitting adapters so I can use ARB, Ryco, Qwikfit etc
Why don't you run the lockers and 240 Volt Air from/to the 20 litre tank?
That would give you a 15 metre airline for tyre inflation off 240 or Onboard supply.
Run a standard size air line and Tyre bead reseating shouldn't be a problem off the 20 litre tank.
You should always pull the valve out.
A bit of detergent or somesuch on the loose bead always helps as well.
Ratchet strap, rope, whatever will makes a 'tourniquet effect' all but make 100% certain the tyre will seat.
I can vaguely remember the old man doing tractor tyres on the farm with a bit of chain and a chain dog thingy.
Right... back to the Beer
Top stuff ET !
Yeah I’m not too stressed about the remaining ‘TPC’ as it is well away from the heat source now.
It was originally connected directly into the compressor where it blew out twice.
My recently installed water filter thingy is about 1.5m along the line on the rear inside wall of the extra cab which is quite easy to see what’s occurring in its little glass bowl.
Rear air bags being separated/adjustable L/R are truly awesome for scary off angle mountain tracks and make levelling my ute bedroom a piece of cake at camp each night :-)
I do definitely need a little box of fitting adapters like your top idea!
Lockers and Tyre air do actually come from the 20L tank just my crappy drawing shows them connecting closer to the filter :-(
In regards engine bay heat, all my setup is inside the extra cab but is still amazing the temps that come out of the ARB twin, finger burning stuff!
Detergent sounds like a great idea for blasting assistance! I do remember TD kindly posting once also that his tyre bloke used something like a big rubber ring band that pops off once the seat is made.
Nearly home from work, will join you for a brew soon too ;-)
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