Potentially saved a life or 2 there mate. Well done.
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Potentially saved a life or 2 there mate. Well done.
Wow I didn't realise this could happen ... Won't be doing that again !!! Thank you
Taslucas does sticker sets for a good price so hit him up for a package and spread the word.
This memorial is at the sight that a young man was killed by a tow ball snatch attempt.
Makes it very real and hits home when you drive past it.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps6f956e88.jpg
Yes or No I had a proper shackle receiver for my towbar so out of neccitity I used the receiver with a 5 t shackle where the tow ball fits in the tongue good or bad ?
That's fine you are using a designated tow jig via your tow bar
think and think again
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...um/yCkyBQt25Xo
Hi everyone. Thanks for this discussion. I have been out with a friend who I thought was experienced. He suggested connecting my snatch strap to my towball to pull him out of the mud. I actually bent the tow bar while doing this. I wont be doing it again and thank God no one was killed.
Clive
Mate glad no one got hurt and a valuble lesson learnt
there is still idiots out there
last week at daughters sportsday at a local oval the barbeque truck got bogged weighs 8 ton on the oval right above a sprincler
yep down she went well at the end of the day the tarmac 4x4 yodas tried to pull him out using you guessed it the snatch strap over the tow ball
plenty of kids around the truck to helping push
my mate and i couldnt get over there quick enough with his gu patrol
he has a winch and after informing the yoda driver of the danger reply was do it all the time
just shows what idiots are about
we wound out winch connected to recovery point and pulled him out no effort at all
thanked by truck driver and he also said he kner about tow ball accidents but wanted to get towed out for free
and not to have to pay for a tow truck
mate then said well my fee is $50.00 and he payed up and left quickly
mate donated the money back to the school
My mates also noticed the sticker on me rear door over the weekend and asked why..
I told em how the snap and I was made a fool. I finished with "tow balls are rated to tow, gradually applying load.. Not 2.5-3 ton like a rocket.."
That got them thinking..
Come to think if it..
I call BS to anyone who says the load on a snatch strap is bugga all...
If you are the recovery vehicle and get stopped in your tracks by the stuck truck you could well be applying double the weight of your car to the strap..
Reading the last few posts makes you realise that getting this message across wil be a never ending battle but still one worth doing
Its amazing just how dumb the human race can be came across two cars the other day one stuck the other about to snatch from his treg hitch that's right put the treg pin through the snatch and locked it in makes you wonder if the message will ever get through when i asked he they thought it was safe reply was yeah safer than using a towball
nothing wrong with that as many menbers do thisQuote:
Originally Posted by patrol2.8
This is exceptable when you dont have a proper rear shackle... we have managed to bend one of those pins on a recovery.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrol2.8
Patrol2.8 is talking about a hitch like this, I can't see that being safe.
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Oh...... sorry you know the one I mean !!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
Thanks winnie that's the one im talking about can't see how anyone would even try a snatch using itQuote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
Yeap, mine is rated at 3000kg and definitely not safe. If no alternative pull the complete unit out of the receiver and place the snatch strap into the receiver and use the pin. BA is big on safety so I think that's what he meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrol2.8
I have thought about getting the picture of the Yota with the towball imbedded in the tailgate, and have it on hand to show what can happen. When my sister saw the picture, she went pale, because she has towball recovered many bogged vehicles.
I rekon it was early days that I joined the forum that there was a post of the latest Aussie killed. It was a mum in the passengers seat, got hit in the throat from memory in W.A..........her kids were in the back seat.....
thats what i ment tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Apollofish
Watch the news tonight there is something about a towball smashing through a lady's windscreen
Here is one for all to have a good think about. Apparently this is from an Aussie guy recently. I got it off Facebook but the owner of the car has commented.
Notice the steel winch rope. It is likely that they were not using a Rope Dampener.
Be Safe guys, Stand Clear, Manage the Risk
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Just a quick one in regards to winch hooks.
You should always point the opening of the hook pointing upwards.
Why?
Because if the hook should fail by straightening out or a forging/casting fault it will force it down to the ground rather than fly up an into the air rather than solely relying on the dampener to catch it.
Interesting idea will use my winch like that in future, thanks for a good idea. Not seen a hook break but just in case.
There was a video on liveleaks that showed a recovery from a towball, which broke the towball off and flew at 2 people which died. Looked to be at a competition to which is sad.
Not a towball but I have seen the same thing happen when a tie down hook was used to try and snatch a car out of a bog. Luckily it flew back and went through the grill and not the windscreen but could have been tragic if a little higher. :eek::frown:
Use the proper gear or dont do it at all
If those figures are right that is tragic way too many preventable deaths
I never realized the death toll was so high. that's terrible
I think factory or aftermarket hooks are more dangerous compared to a tow bar rigid mounted on rear of the chassis.Seen lots of cars with hooks welded on the front bumper.That font bumper lots of people made and install just for look,not thinking about rigid connection between bumper and chassis.Quote:
Originally Posted by MudSlut
That's why you should always purchase rated recovery points.Quote:
Originally Posted by pasbogdan
Outback ideas (vendor here) do a great set and are rated for pulling. Not lifting like some others do
Didn't know there was such a thing. How do they do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by biggqwesty
Like most repairs and upgrades on patrol you make them on your own.If you start building custom bumpers you should know a 2mm thick plate bolted with 8mm screws on the frame will not hold.As most of winch plates sold from companies will not be ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggqwesty
As a newbie with a 4wd, this may be one of the most important things I will ever learn NOT to do.
Mate a good thing to know,definitely.
It is easy to forget about safety because either we are lazy or for the split second we say hey it wont happen to us safety is no laughing mater or a joke as i do i always preach safety before i do something with my Patrol or my boat safety first fun later & always inspect your recovery gear after every use.
another in the news, dont think he died but it snapped
Entirely preventable, its so simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by dysonest
It wasn't a towball but it was bad practice from someone
who should have known better.
I wonder if charges could be made if found the person hooking up the straps
was underqualified, His parents must be asking a heap of questions.
IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN AUST, BUT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ENOUGH IS BEING DONE
every 4X4 should have this stickers,,,,, is it one of Lucas"s
AND NEVER JOIN 2 STRAPS WITH A SHACKLE
Do we know the kids name in the Patrol?