Loose alloy wheels on Nissan Patrol

today i did buy all 24 new wheel nuts and six new screws on wheel that fall off.one screw did brake,and two where bend,but i will replace them all 6...

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Originally Posted by Rober

from now on,i will also check my wheels periodically with torque key,I bought it last week.I'am thinking also to put some loctite medium strenght bolt nut glue.
i don't get it,what a rear diff has with it?

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Rober, it is just my theory in regards to the diff but I have spoken to a couple of people including an Engineer & my theory 'seems' plausible to them, I am not saying this is the issue but let me explain my theory, Patrols appear to have an issue with the back left wheel coming loose & often coming off as a result, often damaging the rim & the lugs (what you refer to as screws) The LSD in the back of the patrols are notoriously good, if your vehicle is RHD the left rear will turn in a tighter circle when turning left everytime, sometimes a good rear diff will 'chatter' when turning as both wheels are trying to turn at the same time which is physically impossible when doing left turns (U turns create the same issue but people rarely perform U turns) I believe this is creating more stress on the back left nuts/rim/lugs causing a failure at times, one theory of mine is the rim holes for the lugs are slowly becoming larger over time & to the eye is no more noticably different to the others, eventually the torque settings become redundant as it will not hold as well as it was engineered to do, again this is only my theory, my other theory is my wife is trying to collect on my life insurance lol, I wouldnt put loctite on the lugs mate, just be vigilant with them & you will be fine

But the same thing happens to the right wheel when you turn right.

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Originally Posted by Winnie

But the same thing happens to the right wheel when you turn right.

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But the lugs as also spinning in the right direction......

Don't stroke it, TAP it!!!!.....

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Originally Posted by Morton

Rober, it is just my theory in regards to the diff but I have spoken to a couple of people including an Engineer & my theory 'seems' plausible to them, I am not saying this is the issue but let me explain my theory, Patrols appear to have an issue with the back left wheel coming loose & often coming off as a result, often damaging the rim & the lugs (what you refer to as screws) The LSD in the back of the patrols are notoriously good, if your vehicle is RHD the left rear will turn in a tighter circle when turning left everytime, sometimes a good rear diff will 'chatter' when turning as both wheels are trying to turn at the same time which is physically impossible when doing left turns (U turns create the same issue but people rarely perform U turns) I believe this is creating more stress on the back left nuts/rim/lugs causing a failure at times, one theory of mine is the rim holes for the lugs are slowly becoming larger over time & to the eye is no more noticably different to the others, eventually the torque settings become redundant as it will not hold as well as it was engineered to do, again this is only my theory, my other theory is my wife is trying to collect on my life insurance lol, I wouldnt put loctite on the lugs mate, just be vigilant with them & you will be fine

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Did I good understand,when you say LSD,that is when i normally drive car without locking back diff...My car is left hand drive.but in practice you have more or less same thing of turns on the right and on the left side.i did loose rear left wheel,but also the wright side was loosen,and front left wheel was also loosen...a day before i was off roading on the snow,it was cold,and wheels were full of snow(discentered)or what is the wright word(steering wheel was shaking).day after it happened...i think that problem is that it is a large diameter of wheel(more stress and vibration),and alloy is much softer than steel,so vibrations shows on connection,between wheel and nuts,and nuts with time loose....

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Originally Posted by threedogs

X 2 always re check tightness of nuts after 50 k, or this will happen.

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Attachment 23602
Nice hose cradle, don't remember seeing that. Lol

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Originally Posted by Winnie

But the same thing happens to the right wheel when you turn right.

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you average left hand turn is tighter that your average right hand turn except when doing U turns, normally performed turning right

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Originally Posted by Rober

Did I good understand,when you say LSD,that is when i normally drive car without locking back diff...My car is left hand drive.but in practice you have more or less same thing of turns on the right and on the left side.i did loose rear left wheel,but also the wright side was loosen,and front left wheel was also loosen...a day before i was off roading on the snow,it was cold,and wheels were full of snow(discentered)or what is the wright word(steering wheel was shaking).day after it happened...i think that problem is that it is a large diameter of wheel(more stress and vibration),and alloy is much softer than steel,so vibrations shows on connection,between wheel and nuts,and nuts with time loose....

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it that case I would be more inclined to think that someone is tampering with the wheel nuts or your mechanic didnt tighten them enough perhaps during the last service, I would run with human error if suddenly 3 wheels are loose IMHO

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Originally Posted by Morton

it that case I would be more inclined to think that someone is tampering with the wheel nuts or your mechanic didnt tighten them enough perhaps during the last service, I would run with human error if suddenly 3 wheels are loose IMHO

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i was at tyre repaire man,changing from summer to winter tyres.they all where tighted on 150Nm.
this is my lost wheel with eaten holes
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/52.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/53.jpg

new parts
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/54.jpg

installed
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/55.jpg

tightned at 14Kgs
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/56.jpg

i also made new..what is the proper word..hand bars?originals i lost somewhere in bush..
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/57.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/58.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/59.jpg

this time red color,so that i see them better,and not forgot 'em

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2012/12/60.jpg

bugger x 2