Is there anyone else willing to debate the .17, 22 magnum question?
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Is there anyone else willing to debate the .17, 22 magnum question?
Went out last night and had a play with a 223 and a 3006. Both nice guns, was sighting in the 3006 and enjoyed both guns. Hmmmm need to get some paperwork sorted now
Took the young bloke out for a blat today, still getting used to it but did well shooting.
I wish I could - AK47 style :)
The following is just disgusting. I wish I knew who was doing this......
Authorities ready to pounce as Innisfail pig hunters play sick and twisted games with piglets
Gold Coast Hunters threatented with...
Two Gold Coast hunters threatened with rape and being strung up, Toowoomba court hears
A HUNTING trip turned into a horrifying nightmare for two Gold Coast men, who were threatened with rape and told they would be strung up in a cold room and eaten by pigs, a Toowoomba court has heard.
The men, aged 20 and 26 at the time, had loaded their ute with hunting gear and two dogs for the trip near Millmerran on March 17 last year, The Chronicle reported.
However, as they drove past the free range pig farm of Justin Colin Mawer and Amber Courtney Mawer, both 37, one of their dogs had jumped from the ute and chased a pig, Toowoomba District Court heard.
The Mawers emerged from the house in their underwear, Mr Mawer armed with a rifle, which he used to shoot at the dog, prompting the two men and their dogs to get back into their utility and drive off.
They soon realised they were being *followed by a red sedan driven by Mrs Mawer with Mr Mawer holding a rifle in the passenger seat.
Mrs Mawer overtook the victims’ car, forcing them to stop and accusing them of being pig poachers.
Mr Mawer pointed the gun at the pair, demanding they get out of their car, and threatened to hang them from their wrists in his cold room before killing them and feeding them to his pigs. He also punched and hit both men with his rifle, threatened to rape them, shot one of their tyres, took their dogs and demanded money.
The Mawers pleaded guilty to a range of charges, saying they had lost 37 pigs to poachers and dog attacks in the months before the attack.
Amber Mawer was sentenced to 12 months jail, but released on immediate parole and disqualified from driving for nine months.
Justin Mawer was sentenced to 30 months’ jail, to be released on parole on
Authorities ready to pounce as Innisfail pig hunters play sick and twisted games with piglets
FERAL pig hunters on the Cassowary Coast brutalising piglets could face fines as high as $20,000.
The warning came from Innisfail Police in the wake of a report from Cassowary Coast Regional Council Division 4 councillor Mark Nolan that hunters were cutting the legs off live feral piglets and letting them stagger off to starve to death.
Cr Nolan said most hunters of feral pigs were responsible and humane but there was a small segment who were not doing the right thing.
WHY DEAD PIGS ARE CAUSING ALARM
In a letter to the Innisfail Advocate on Monday, Cr Nolan stated: “The ‘Feral Fools’ headline in Saturday’s Advocate has led me to take this opportunity to inform *residents that most pig hunters are acting responsibly and doing a great job in assisting farmers to keep the feral pig population to a minimum but there is an irresponsible element among them.
PIG HUNTERS HIT BACK AT CRITICS
“As the CCRC environment portfolio holder, I can advise that I have been inundated with complaints over recent weeks from rural residents about an unsavoury and cruel practice occurring with some pig hunters in their treatment of the animals.
PIG HUNTING UNDER SCRUTINY
BRUTAL: Pig hunters have been torturing piglets. Source: News Limited
“This small group of hunters are gutting pigs where they fall and then inspecting their livers for worms.
“If the liver is clean they cut the back straps and hindquarters off the pig and leave the remaining carcass to rot, regardless of location.
MILLEWA FERAL FESTIVAL FIRES UP
“Further, they have recently cut the rear legs of small piglets they have captured and released them to the wild with limited ability to move, thus dying a slow death.
“Residents living up the East Palmerston have recently had to shoot piglets left in this cruel state to put them out of their misery and bury the rotting carcasses of feral pigs being dumped beside Wadda Creek which flows into the Johnstone River system.”
Cr Nolan said Wadda Creek also passed through many farming properties and some landowners drew water from it.
He added that recent government funding cutbacks had aggravated the whole situation with feral pigs.
“The sad reality is that with the recent decision of both state and federal governments to withdraw funding from feral pig control programs, this very serious environmental issue will explode out of control,” Cr Nolan said.
“Alarmingly, the ‘feral fools’ in our community will continue to hunt wild pigs and we can only hope they change their irresponsible and cruel practices and show some respect for other property owners by not dumping rotting carcasses in public places or waterways.”
Cassowary Coast Crime Prevention Co-ordinator, acting Senior Constable Kirstel Maclean said police had not received any complaints or information regarding the cruelty to the piglets.
But she warned that *offenders face maximum *penalties of a $20,000 fine or three years’ jail.
It's okay, optics are clear at high magnification, adjusters are solid. But if I was buying again I'd go a Redfield Revolution(American made). I have one on my 303 and it is brilliant. Looking for one for the 30-06 at the moment but they seem to have gone up 50%.since they came out?
There's also the Redfield revenge, made in Malaysia, can't vouch for them.
Had a good day on the river, just now a mate called and wants to run the electric dog the mrs gave me the thumbs up got to love days like today!
No worries. I hope he enjoys it.
Hey all. As for my groups I shoot at the top of my breath. My groups could be tighter but just using factory ammo not reloads yet.
As for the rabbit, fox rifle. 17hmr for 100m shots but no wind and most expensive. 22 magnum for up to 75m shots cost moderate. The humble 22 good for up to 50m for fox and rabbit very cheap as in 40-70 bucks for 500 rounds.
I bought a 22 for cheap ammo and I can sneak up on our rabbit warrens and I have my 22/250 for foxes as they are big and flighty.
Go with a 17hmr best of everything. If you're worried about ammo cost then give up shooting haha
I worry about ammo cost, so I make reloads for my 223 & 303 and will be running some up for the 30-06 soon as I get some projectiles for it.
I'm playing the reload game ATM and it's expensive to set up and probably not worth it if only shooting 50 rounds a year with die reloading gear tumblers the time it takes to work up a load and find one that shoots tight but that's half the fun of it.
I use a very simple setup, I use a lee priming tool for seating primers, and I use a Lee hand loader for the actual loading and neck sizing. Cheap and portable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeEl9wZyabc
(I use the lee priming tool now over the manual priming method in the vid because I am a gorilla fisted clown and have set off the odd primer by tapping too hard and I weigh my powder loads with a small digital scale. Can still knock out about 20 rounds comfortably in an hour)
Have you blokes worked out the cost difference for say 20 rounds. I'm just curious on what kind of saving are to be had as 20 round in an hr! I'd want a good saving to spend my time doing it lol
How'd you go on the hunting trip macca
Hunting trip was slow got rained in and everything went quiet. Was still a good trip but not many notches in the belt.
He reckons 35 bucks for 50 shots is good value. To me that sounds like expensive bunnies for tea, though.
My butcher sells rabbit fir $15 each. The wild rabbit at stanthorpe in a tourist shop are $27 each and the venison rump is $70 a kg. bloody ridiculous!
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The old man dressing a nice boar
Think when I did the sums a while back, it was costing me about 50c a round to reload 223.
Bear in mind that's 50c with once fired brass, so basically a custom glove fit for the chamber with premium powder and a nosler ballistic tip projectile. So, premium round for budget price.
My 22/250 rounds I've gotta test worked out to be about 70c each using cci primers adi powder Barnes triple shock 55gn projectiles will be great once I work out powder charge seating lengths etc
Time consuming, but well worth it. I'm still tweaking my 303 rounds, but would be pretty confident knocking any game you care to mention over with em.
Was great to meet up and chat with so many of you fellow hunters at the meet on the weekend.
Still pretty new to it all but this has been a very interesting read to confirm/improve my knowledge in hunting...
Would be great to get out with a few of you some time soon
Dont worry ben you will get a chance to come and play mate!!!
Matty and I have been trying to get out for a shoot together for a while so no invites for this shoot we gave organised.. butsoon mate.
There are also some other keen shooters that were at the meet and may have to arrange a np.com shoot.
All good BA... Was just great to chat to some of the guys and get some knowledge. Not looking to jump in on pre arranged plans :)
On a similar note though I tried looking up that knife to send you a link and it seems they don't make them any more, so I might have to keep my eye on you next time!! Haha
A np shoot using inland hunting properties say central west nsw could work
I have shot my 7mm and not killed anything with it. I like to do 1 big trip a year next year would be great at about this time of year
So today I had a day off.... And I went to the local gun shop... And I may have (accidentally? Haha) bought a nice old second hand side by side 12ga...
Have been looking for a while and the spare time got the better of me.
No idea what brand it is but hopefully can pick it up tomorrow.
So got my license 2 weeks ago and finally got out hunting with a mate on Sunday (had to leave the meetup early but turned out to be worth it).
Started nice and early at his place 4:30 am jumped in his trusty patrol and headed out Labertouche way to a property he is allowed on. Not a great start when we got there, I borrowed another mates 308, but he accidentally (how I don't know) picked up his 22 instead. Not having looked at it closely and being a complete noob I didn't notice! Anyway my mate had his 30-06 and a couple of 22 rounds so put them in (just in case for a bunny or fox) and we set off.
Got to the woods at the edge of the farm about 6am, and we were straight into stalk mode, luckily into a nice gentle headwind, heaps of recent deer signs around. So we took it pretty slowly stopping every little while for a few minutes to listen, after about 100m (through dense shrub so it took a hour almost) we started to be able to hear some deer activity. Some more very very slow stalking and my mate spotted one across a small ravine, I was about 5m behind him and could not see it because of a tree but we camped down and he managed to get a perfect shot off. Straight in the neck with the 30-06 from about 70m, dropped it straight away very clean kill.
By this time it was about 8:30am and the real work started! Had to ford a small creek to get to the doe, and the field butchering began, 4.5 hours later it was 1pm and we had the thing quartered and back to the patrol!
Now my fridge is full of venison and I am dead keen to get out there (with the right gun) and get my own!
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Eye fillet anyone??
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Well done, I recall you mentioning you were looking forwards to heading out in the morning. Many people have lots of trips out before first tasting success.
Because I emptied out my car for the weekend trip I forgot to put my hearing protection back in the car for work...
The only thing I could find was 204 empty shells and they worked well.. got a few funny looks though.
Yeah not bad... I have a huge Kawasaki back pack blower and its loud so could not stand the thought of 40min of it blasting my head off... Irish uses them all the time because he is too cool for school.
You're just jealous because I look mad sexy with a couple of 303 shell casings dug into my ear canals