Turbo Upgrades for the GUIV TD42Ti

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21st November 2016, 09:14 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

There you go @AB . I would recommend doing as I suggest for the hoses in using the reusable style hose ends. Then come the saturday you only need to worry about the turbo compressor inlet and outlet connections. Some exhaust tube and silicon parts will do. I can send pics if MR requires for reference.

Cheers mate, easy done!
22nd November 2016, 04:42 PM
MudRunnerTD

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/185.jpg

Then stopped in at MTQ and grabbed an Oil Drain flange and pipe. Glad I did! eBay was $45 plus post. MTQ was $24 pickup. Happy days

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/186.jpg

Note the part number of anyone is chasing one.

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22nd November 2016, 05:27 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!! Then stopped in at MTQ and grabbed an Oil Drain flange and pipe. Glad I did! eBay was $45 plus post. MTQ was $24 pickup. Happy days Note the part number of anyone is chasing one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Looks good mate, we might have to cut a bit off the end to ensure a nice curve to your oil drain but looks good.
22nd November 2016, 05:36 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by AB

Looks good mate, we might have to cut a bit off the end to ensure a nice curve to your oil drain but looks good.

Yeah i looked at it and thought it was long but immediately thought we'd cut it to whatever length was needed as there is no lip.
22nd November 2016, 05:46 PM
Stropp

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/185.jpgSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

hey mate how much was the pump, im looking at doing mine later, just going to see how the ufi fan and hub go first.
22nd November 2016, 05:55 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by Stropp

hey mate how much was the pump, im looking at doing mine later, just going to see how the ufi fan and hub go first.

The pump was $480 pick up and they will post to you no props. Each pump is individually numbered and i have number 73. It is incomparable to the Nissan Unit. Its a lot of money but its a heart beat mate. I see the value.
22nd November 2016, 06:36 PM
AB

Hi Matty.

Are they any pros or cons running wastegate reference from inlet manifold area as opposed to compressor?

Guessing it's true pressure going in?
22nd November 2016, 06:37 PM
MudRunnerTD

I forgot to post from the weekend also that I grabbed a new fan off a q35 Infiniti which are supposed to be awesome. Got a good price of Matt from ProDeisel and he delivered it to my door.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/187.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/188.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/189.jpg

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22nd November 2016, 06:52 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

I forgot to post from the weekend also that I grabbed a new fan off a q35 Infiniti which are supposed to be awesome. Got a good price of Matt from ProDeisel and he delivered it to my door. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How much was that?
22nd November 2016, 06:58 PM
MudRunnerTD

About $170
22nd November 2016, 07:37 PM
mudski

I will tell you Darren that fan will be useless if you dont modify the clutch fan. I have the same fan, and have done some tests over the last month or so with my own Patrol. The new fan with a stock hub changed nothing. Adding a tube and a half of oil made slight changes, the hub was locking in slightly earlier, assisting is reducing temps quicker. I have recently added another 18ml, one bottle, and now the hub is locked totally. Temps today, being cold outside were lower again, the water temps actually dropped when the car was moving and rose when stationary. Which it never did before. The only issue now is the fan noise. Im not so sure i will be able to put up with it. But i want to see how it goes in real heat at 110ks, this is where my kettle would see 115c. I think i will remove about 10ml from the hub next to see the results.
This is from my own findings mate. I am sure results will vary from motor to motor.

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22nd November 2016, 07:58 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by AB

Hi Matty.

Are they any pros or cons running wastegate reference from inlet manifold area as opposed to compressor?

Guessing it's true pressure going in?

Yeah closer to whats actually going into the engine.
22nd November 2016, 08:03 PM
nissannewby

Quote:

Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

So went over to JPC today and grabbed one of their hi spec water pumps. Looks the biz!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/185.jpg

Then stopped in at MTQ and grabbed an Oil Drain flange and pipe. Glad I did! eBay was $45 plus post. MTQ was $24 pickup. Happy days

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/186.jpg

Note the part number of anyone is chasing one.

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Did you get the oil return hose as well?

Why the cooling system mods?
22nd November 2016, 08:11 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Did you get the oil return hose as well?

Why the cooling system mods?

Hi mate, no I will try and get to Pirtek tomorrow if I get time. My company has a big account so should get s good price.

Taking the opportunity to sort out my cooling while the coolant is dumped. It has always ran hot when towing and on the beach. Obviously the turbo will sort most of that out but I see the benefit of the water pump. The engine has done 270k so I'm ok to swap out the water pump regardless.
22nd November 2016, 08:15 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Did you get the oil return hose as well? Why the cooling system mods?

I agree with Matty getting that hose Dazz. I got a standard hose from Pirtek and it wasn't great.
22nd November 2016, 08:16 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Hi mate, no I will try and get to Pirtek tomorrow if I get time. My company has a big account so should get s good price.

Taking the opportunity to sort out my cooling while the coolant is dumped. It has always ran hot when towing and on the beach. Obviously the turbo will sort most of that out but I see the benefit of the water pump. The engine has done 270k so I'm ok to swap out the water pump regardless.

Hot as in coolant or pyros?
22nd November 2016, 08:16 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by AB

I agree with Matty getting that hose Dazz. I got a standard hose from Pirtek and it wasn't great.

I got Andy to put on a Flexi hose but Mattys one would be good if you can.
22nd November 2016, 08:17 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

About $170

About $100 to much
22nd November 2016, 08:20 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Hot as in coolant or pyros?

Both. Alway bounce off the top end of my Pyros but the water temp rises to hot on a big long hill climb towing and on the beach.
22nd November 2016, 08:22 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Both. Alway bounce off the top end of my Pyros but the water temp rises to hot on a big long hill climb towing and on the beach.

Ok. What is the condition of the current equipment? I have never really had engine cooling issues apart from an externally blocked core but have always maintained my cooling system well. Do you still have that rubbish egr hooked up?
22nd November 2016, 08:24 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by AB

I got Andy to put on a Flexi hose but Mattys one would be good if you can.

Yeah I got this pic off Matty the other day and will show it to Pirtek for the Oil Return line

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/190.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/191.jpg

And I like the make your own option for the water return like this, again from Matty.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/192.jpg

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22nd November 2016, 08:29 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Ok. What is the condition of the current equipment? I have never really had engine cooling issues apart from an externally blocked core but have always maintained my cooling system well. Do you still have that rubbish egr hooked up?

No I played it years ago and removed the butterfly valve from the intercooler. I will remove it completely when I take the turbo off this time.

Is it worth having the radiator tested? I will be time poor when it's apart so keen to get stuff done quickly. Will they remove a tank and rod it or something? Isn't worth throwing a flush into the radiator for a few days before I strip it out?

Also I'm assuming it's a good time to add a Provent.?
22nd November 2016, 08:34 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

No I played it years ago and removed the butterfly valve from the intercooler. I will remove it completely when I take the turbo off this time.

Is it worth having the radiator tested? I will be time poor when it's apart so keen to get stuff done quickly. Will they remove a tank and rod it or something? Isn't worth throwing a flush into the radiator for a few days before I strip it out?

Also I'm assuming it's a good time to add a Provent.?

So you completely removed the EGR system? Egr cooler and the lot?

If its the original rad I probably wouldnt bother and just replace it. The plastic tends to get brittle over time. I would only use something like the flush that fleetguard have available.

I dont do catch cans but if you think so then yes.
22nd November 2016, 08:34 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

About $100 to much

I paid a little less than that actually but hey are listed on eBay for $240 or more so figured it was a pretty good price to be honest?

@mudski I understand that the fan should not be on all the time or it will affect fuel economy and engine load. I understood it would engage at a certain temp and pull the temp down before disengaging. Not necessarily to hold the temp lower but rather pull it down faster when it engages. The water pump on the other hand should hold the temp better I'd have thought for sure. That's the plan anyway.
22nd November 2016, 08:35 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Yeah I got this pic off Matty the other day and will show it to Pirtek for the Oil Return line And I like the make your own option for the water return like this, again from Matty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thats water feed not drain. Who's car in that pic?
22nd November 2016, 08:36 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

I paid a little less than that actually but hey are listed on eBay for $240 or more so figured it was a pretty good price to be honest?

@mudski I understand that the fan should not be on all the time or it will affect fuel economy and engine load. I understood it would engage at a certain temp and pull the temp down before disengaging. Not necessarily to hold the temp lower but rather pull it down faster when it engages. The water pump on the other hand should hold the temp better I'd have thought for sure. That's the plan anyway.

$62 AU plus shipping..... Genuine Parts
22nd November 2016, 08:36 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by AB

Thats water feed not drain. Who's picture is that car?

Mine.......
22nd November 2016, 08:37 PM
MudRunnerTD

Quote:

Originally Posted by nissannewby

So you completely removed the EGR system? Egr cooler and the lot?

If its the original rad I probably wouldnt bother and just replace it. The plastic tends to get brittle over time. I would only use something like the flush that fleetguard have available.

I dont do catch cans but if you think so then yes.

Do you just vent to atmosphere? At the moment it's returning into the intake.

I removed the main section and blanked off what I could. The pipe from the turbo around the back of the motor is still connected but blanked the intake end as it was to hard to remove without messing with the turbo from memory (8 years ago) I will remove the lot this time around.
22nd November 2016, 08:38 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by AB

Thats water feed not drain. Who's car in that pic?

You can see my Oil drain slightly in one of those pics. However I am using the larger frame turbo than you guys and it all sits further forward. I just used the drain hose that was with the UFI 18G I had prior.
22nd November 2016, 08:40 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

$62 AU plus shipping..... Genuine Parts

I need a Thumbs Down button!
22nd November 2016, 08:41 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Do you just vent to atmosphere? At the moment it's returning into the intake.

I removed the main section and blanked off what I could. The pipe from the turbo around the back of the motor is still connected but blanked the intake end as it was to hard to remove without messing with the turbo from memory (8 years ago) I will remove the lot this time around.

I do.

The EGR system has a cooler which cools the exhaust gas before entering the cooling system. Removing this cooler will take some load off your cooling system as well. The pipe around the back can be removed with the turbo in place its just a little tricky.

As I have mentioned to you on the phone if someone has altered the static timing of your pump this wont be helping any of your causes.
22nd November 2016, 08:44 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

I do.

The EGR system has a cooler which cools the exhaust gas before entering the cooling system. Removing this cooler will take some load off your cooling system as well. The pipe around the back can be removed with the turbo in place its just a little tricky.

As I have mentioned to you on the phone if someone has altered the static timing of your pump this wont be helping any of your causes.

Is that like a long Log style closed cooler like a water to air type log? Yes I have removed that assembly.
22nd November 2016, 08:49 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

You can see my Oil drain slightly in one of those pics. However I am using the larger frame turbo than you guys and it all sits further forward. I just used the drain hose that was with the UFI 18G I had prior.

So in the pic you can see the Water feed out the side of the block looping down then back up to the turbo yeah?

The hose with the formed bend in the middle of the pic is the Oil line and just needs to be a suitable oil hose with hose clamps?

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/11/193.jpg

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22nd November 2016, 08:53 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

So in the pic you can see the Water feed out the side of the block looping down then back up to the turbo yeah? The hose with the formed bend in the middle of the pic is the Oil line and just needs to be a suitable oil hose with hose clamps? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah but you really want a nice flowing hose to your sump. You do not want any restriction here with twists or bends or restrictions otherwise you could end up like me potentially.
22nd November 2016, 09:18 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Mine.......

Too tight or not enough room for error to go above the oil drain line running the water feed with that system?
22nd November 2016, 09:20 PM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by AB

Too tight or not enough room for error to go above the oil drain line running the water feed with that system?

I used heavy hose and it doesnt bend well. That hose is rated to over 5000psi

Also using a bigger frame turbo which puts everything in different places.
22nd November 2016, 10:06 PM
mudski

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

I paid a little less than that actually but hey are listed on eBay for $240 or more so figured it was a pretty good price to be honest?
@mudski I understand that the fan should not be on all the time or it will affect fuel economy and engine load. I understood it would engage at a certain temp and pull the temp down before disengaging. Not necessarily to hold the temp lower but rather pull it down faster when it engages. The water pump on the other hand should hold the temp better I'd have thought for sure. That's the plan anyway.

Yeah engine load and fuel eco is of some concern. The fan noise is worse though...lol. Yeah correct on how it works but the issue is the hub disengages too early. There for not pulling the temps down enough. So thats where the hub oil comes in. But i am thinking i might have a little too much oil now in mine. It still requires more than whats originally in there but i may have too much in mine i think. I have the same water pump too as you have bought....

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23rd November 2016, 12:12 AM
Stropp

Thanks for the info daz, that fan looks like the Ufi one
23rd November 2016, 01:21 PM
TheFlyingBadger

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

I do.

The EGR system has a cooler which cools the exhaust gas before entering the cooling system. Removing this cooler will take some load off your cooling system as well. The pipe around the back can be removed with the turbo in place its just a little tricky.

As I have mentioned to you on the phone if someone has altered the static timing of your pump this wont be helping any of your causes.

I used the water connections for that cooler for my Glind. nice tidy job (for once!).
28th November 2016, 08:19 PM
AB

Are we all set for the weekend Dazz?

Looking forward to redlining a GU ;)

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