They are around. I know a couple of people who run Simex jungle trekkers in 34s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuppa
They are around. I know a couple of people who run Simex jungle trekkers in 34s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuppa
I rang a local tyre mob today to ask them as I found the same out after looking closer and they said it all depends on the brand of tyre. Not every tyre is exactly the same in diameter. But he said there is some close to 32.4. But he would regard them as a 32inch tyre. We got onto the discussion about 285/75/16's how people call them 33's. Again he said, it varies between brands, some are 32.4 and some are 32.8. I wonder what brand tyre Nissan used of the Factory floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
So yeah I don't think one could get away with this with the fuzz down here if they had a DX. Unless the copper didn't really know.
Very true Cuppa :-) and or have Australia's best Northern diesel tweakers legalise 35's :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuppa
G'day Mr Winnie, if I had a Mansfield gauntlet run choice, would personally take 35's in an honest pattern versus 34 jungle's that might scrape in technically but we know their look raises eyebrows:-) In saying that, again personal experiences proves some 'law folk' only tend to read the 35xXX numbers on the wall ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
Hahaha... Best!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
>>>tappin from tassie
Once again, while you may be correct to the letter of the law, the cop wont care, especially down Mansfield way. He'll slap the canary on just the same, and then it's on you to get it cleared at Vicroads.
Really need to push for a change to the ADR's. My brother in law has a 105 series cruiser with a 2" lift, 33's, one of those roof racks that has the high sides, and then a roof top tent on top of that. It is heaps more unstable than my 3"+35's with no rack or roof top, both onroad and off. The sway his gets on long winding corners, or when we are in any off camber off road is just crazy. But he's legal, and I'm not. Go figure.
Being top heavy with the rack and roof top won't help the cruiser, or any vehicle thats for sure.
Hey Winne. Are those trekkers load and speed rated? If not they might aswell run around on 37's. Jaysee got done in Dargo for his Simex tyres for no load or speed rating, as well as being 35inch. Actually I think it would be worse to run on 34's with no load or speed rating. As they almost threw the book at Jaysee because of his tyres, everyone else with 35's, cept for me an Rossco, just got minor defects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
I've got no idea if they do or not? Probably not actually!
Howcome you and Rossco got away with the 35s? Did they not check?
We were lucky and went a different way. We saw them later behind us, we turned right & they kept going. . . Must have been beer o clock ☺Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
They were rated cant remember if it was speed or load, but sure only one. They weren't going to listen to me anyway we did escape the fine tho. Another stupid thing was I had 1/2 hour to get the patrol which had illegal but appropriate wheels off the dirt roads, but the same illegal Wheels with good enough to drive me 400 kilometres home.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
In the pass I've been done for things that were fine, all they said was "well you won't have any problems getting a roadworthy then."
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You may well be right but if they did change ADR's I am offering 100:1 the change would not be in favour of 3 inch lift and 35 inch tyresQuote:
Originally Posted by Throbbinhood
Yeah i reckon... Even if they said you need to pass a swerve test with the 35s then you can run them. Would be ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by the evil twin
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height will be an issue for me a big lift on ironman suspension
Ok. Finally picked my Patrol up yesterday. Its now fully engineered for everything. Woo Hoo!
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I just wanna go for a drive to Mansfield now. Lol
I asked when I picked my car up about the Heep in the latest 4x4A mag that has 37's and a 4inch lift and is engineered. I even rang Double Black Offroad who did the work and asked how is this possible. Anything is possible my response was, plus the upgrades that went into the axles for the 37's. Not convinced I was.
So I asked yesterday and I was told that they must have used a NON Vic Roads (VASS) approved engineer. Which can sign off on pretty much anything, IF it passes all the required testing. This was something i did not know could be done. BUT, Vic Roads can refuse and cancel the certificate at any giving time.
So using a VASS approved engineer all is good. Also the current law is, under VSB14, the maximum height any vehicle can be engineered to is 150mm. Including tyres in this measurement. So them using a NON VASS engineer obviously can get around this, but you run the huge risk of Vic Roads calling for an inspection of your vehicle over the pits with their own inspector and if they don't approve, all your ride can be is a paddock basher or comp truck.
I had a GVM upgrade performed in WA. I have a 6.5 Litre Chev engine installed by Brunswick in WA. I got the vehicle engineered in NSW.Quote:
Originally Posted by NissanGQ4.2
Whilst the NSW engineer did not redo the certification for the GVM upgrade ( 500Kg) he did indicate it and the WA certification reference on his engineering report.
Ultimately, he certified my engine upgrade and it incorporated the WA certification with larger tyres. My Rego now represents the new Engine capacity, the new GVM and has a reference on the Rego form of the certification number.
It was dead easy and the NSW certification only cost me $800.
Kindest regards
Rainsey
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I just added a link to the OP regarding the new laws in NSW for vehicle lifts....
I have the same WA GVM upgrade for my 6.5 upgrade. The VASS engineer I used refused to accept it due to a total lack of detail, and Vicroads refused as they won't accept it unless the VASS engineer signs off on it. So much for a National GVM certification standard. Right now, totally rooted and looking down the barrel of brake tests and axle load verification and spring validation. Totally annoyed as the root of this lies with having to use a select VASS inspector who is 'friendly' to the WA certifier, and yes I can back this up, for the record. I never went this route due to a requirement to subject the vehicle to a full RWC (which is not a requirement of Vicroads) plus replacement of all the existing suspension by them, regardless of whether it was 10 years old or brand spanking new, straight out of the warehouse. Makes a total mockery of unbiased verification in my view. The response from the conversion company is 'oh well, you are having a rough trot, sorry, can't help. Not happy.Quote:
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HowdyQuote:
Originally Posted by bigguwesty
When I purchased my light bar I read up on the qld transport website for the do's and dont' and they claim the light can't be in the drivers line of sight Attachment 70209
I ended up putting mine lower than I wanted to keep Mr Plod happy Attachment 70210
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BUMP!!
Any new info on this? Has anyone successfully managed to get 35's certified in Vic?
I'm looking at getting a cert for my 3" lift and 35's after my latest run-in with the Vic High Country troopers!
I've made a few phone calls to the VASS list and have seemed to get the run around. Finally found one place that will book me in for an initial inspection. If that falls through I'd prefer to try someone that you guys can recommend.
(Have read this entire thread and see that 4x4 Obsession and Engleman are mentioned favourably, but I don't see them on the VASS list?)
You won’t get anything larger than a 33 engineered on a Y60 or Y61 Patrol period. Unless you spend 20k for portal axles then you can. Only. Use VASS approved engineers too. The police and Vic roads cannot argue with their compliance. Use a non vass approved engineer, they can.
I use 4x4 Obsession for my cert. he even did a pre inspection before I booked it in to give me a heads up just in case.
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VASS certification for portals will cost you around the 6K mark for a GQ. Thats what I was quoted when I looked into it for mine. Marks 4x4 never put the GQ through second tier certification, hence why the GQ punter has to go the extra mile. The GU however has been fully certified, so the 22K number stands as Mudski said.
So it’s an extra 6k on top of the cost of the portals instal? Yikes!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
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Yep, and this was from the only VASS engineer who would take it on. Brake and swerve test need to be done, plus 'who knows what'.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
Seems a bit of a rort to me to be charging 6k for an engineers cert for Portals. I know theres more involved but...Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
Yep, after seeing the hoops I had to jump thru, then the actual level or 'engineering certification' which essentially was a visual inspect then the brake test, 6k is rediculous but if you want the toys you gotta pay, or run the gauntlet and end up with something that cant be driven on the road legally or only at night - anyone come to mind?????
*cough* Darren!!!! *cough*Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
cough, cough, seems I have caught what you have!
Question is it really worth doing all these mods , Portals etc
would money be better spent on a top of the line Duramax and two lockers??
Just saying must be getting old maybe ha ha ha
I'd happily run 37's no lift just a ridiculous guard chop if I could get it engineered. Low, stable, great clearance. Throw in lockers and it'd be mint.
A duramax doesn't give you an axle height lift that Portals would. Depends on the person, what their current ride has and what their desires are.Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
A combination of Duramax and portals would be something a lot would like but you'd be into $70 plus grand , ok if you won Tatts I suppose .Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
Back in the real world stick to 33's and a two inch lift .
Yeah just imagine what you could build if money wasn't an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by GQtdauto
You mean something like this...
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Yeah, so after going on a wild goose chase and getting the run around, I've given up on VASS engineering. Was prepared to drop around $3k to do it all but no one wants to take my money.
All I wanted certified was a 3" suspension lift and 35's.
Last engineer I spoke to (well it was Chinese whispers through his secretary) told me it can't be done because it's "illegal" .... umm derr , that's why I need you... if I kept it within the ADR then I wouldn't really need an engineer would I!?!?! FFS!!
Too hard basket!
You wont get 35's engineered mate. Period. The engineers can't just engineer anything that comes through their doors, regardless of how well set up the vehicle is. It doesn't work like that. They have a set of rules they must abide by called VSB14 which is provided by the grubernment, and have a limit on how far they can go in regards to modifications. 35's are NOT allowed. So forget about trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveGQ
The engineer I used, will only do up to 4 inch lift. So you are right there. But forget about 35's. Speak to Brett at 4x4 Obsession, he will tell you how it is.
Yes different engineers will tell you slightly different things. I remember finding this out too. But all of them, must abide by the same rules.
I did it. So its not that hard.
I may be wrong but didn't Simon Christie gets his Yoda engineered with 35's?Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
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The whole debacle of 35’s on say even only a 2” solid lift is crap IMO! Once hired one of them Kiwi company owned hire motor homes for a family funeral dash north and was scared shitless of its balance. How on earth could those top heavy junkers pass a swerve test and not a fair built Patrol :-( !
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Might have to get our patrols engineered to umm deliver playgrounds in remote communities.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Think of the children!!!
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