compliance plate required for removing seats?

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Originally Posted by the godfather

I will have to add, that in WA, there is very little you can actually do without plating a vehicle. Under VSB6 you cant remove any seats that come factory fitted. The issue isn't the removal, it is the fact that they can be re-installed incorrectly. ie, wrong grade bolts, and/or over or under tensioning. Any idiot can do this, but not many seem to do it correctly. You would be surprised at the shite I see at work.....I could take and post pics but I would get in trouble.

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Pretty much agree, esp the bit about the re-installation and about W.A.. However the confusion stems from VSB 6 which is a Federal document is in itself a tad vague and open to various interpretations. If it was a defining document then all the States would have to comply and Vic for example couldn't say it's OK for less than 10 seats and NSW say no it's not.

Qld, Vic etc all have State Regs and Interpretations derived from VSB 6 published on their RTA (or equivalent) websites whilst WA and Tas either have none and rely on VSB 6 or have hidden the details away and hard to find. To make matters worse some States have an agreement to recognise interstate plated vehicles (tourists or whatever) that don't comply with the local reg and others don't.

Beauracratic Minefield at its best....

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Originally Posted by the evil twin

Pretty much agree, esp the bit about the re-installation and about W.A.. However the confusion stems from VSB 6 which is a Federal document is in itself a tad vague and open to various interpretations. If it was a defining document then all the States would have to comply and Vic for example couldn't say it's OK for less than 10 seats and NSW say no it's not.

Qld, Vic etc all have State Regs and Interpretations derived from VSB 6 published on their RTA (or equivalent) websites whilst WA and Tas either have none and rely on VSB 6 or have hidden the details away and hard to find. To make matters worse some States have an agreement to recognise interstate plated vehicles (tourists or whatever) that don't comply with the local reg and others don't.

Beauracratic Minefield at its best....

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ok now im totally confused
can i take out both sets of seats in the rear leaving just driver and passenger seats
for touring over here ?????
or is some copper gunna fry my @ss

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Originally Posted by nowoolies

ok now im totally confused
can i take out both sets of seats in the rear leaving just driver and passenger seats
for touring over here ?????
or is some copper gunna fry my @ss

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Well let me see. I have only met you once and your arse wasn't on the agenda.....and I don't really find fried arse appealing....lol.
On a more serious note, my bro is a copper and drove a Patrol until recently. Last I looked his seats where out and long lost....so I am guessing it is highly unlikely that you will get pinged for it. Unless of coarse you have done something to upset him/her. I might be able to help you with this if you are leaving them out permanently.......a very big might that is.

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Originally Posted by the godfather

Well let me see. I have only met you once and your arse wasn't on the agenda.....and I don't really find fried arse appealing....lol.
On a more serious note, my bro is a copper and drove a Patrol until recently. Last I looked his seats where out and long lost....so I am guessing it is highly unlikely that you will get pinged for it. Unless of coarse you have done something to upset him/her. I might be able to help you with this if you are leaving them out permanently.......a very big might that is.

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cool we want to do a run up north later this year and i will need the extra room
as i want to tow the boat with me and not full of camping stuff

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Originally Posted by nowoolies

ok now im totally confused
can i take out both sets of seats in the rear leaving just driver and passenger seats
for touring over here ?????
or is some copper gunna fry my @ss

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Doubt it will draw the angst of a Copper unless his gout is playing up... dunno if it is a combined sting with Transport Mermaids in attendance tho

The anecdotal stories here around the Clubs and Websites in WA are that you will only get questions if you are getting a roadworthy at the inspection stations. Now, you should only need to visit them to change Rego or clear a Canary.

If the Inspector is happy with your answers that the removal is only temporary AND the seats that are still in place all have belts, headrests etc then it seems they will let it thru with no Compliance Plate change. I haven't heard of people having to refit the seats that are missing BUT I have heard of people having to go and return with Headrests etc for seats that were folded down and headrests removed for example.

All comes down to how well you convince them what is "temporary".

For the Qlder's, I've just got my patrol and it has had the dickie seats removed. Came with a roadworthy cert so that would suggest that there is no issue with removing them. Only mod plate on it is for dual batteries or long range tanks. Can't remember which. Unless of course the caryard has pulled a shonkey. Can't imagine that.