EFI to TD42 gift giving for BA.

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

Kallen mate, turbo or not this motor would've shit itself anyway coz or whats happened to the timing gears

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Yea I get that. But the turbo is a luxury, not necessity.
And not to smash windows here ba's good luck angel must be farking the devil atm.
I'd hate to see all this work again go into the motor then have the cheap turbo do an impeller an fark the internals.
Just smash some 3" mufflers in the system and sell the rest.

Either way it's ba's decision but if it were me I'd take the time, and rebuild an NA motor and have reliable motoring for the next million kilometres.

I have only meet some of you once or twice and most never. My last 4x4 cost me a fortune just to get it running right which never did and sold it.

Now I'm here and l'm not going anywhere. I've got what I want and have no intention of selling.

I feel for ya BA been down that road also.
I'll be totally honest. I can't help out with the coin, but am more than willing to help out wherever possible. Mudski has mentioned that he can't pick up some things I can. I'm no mechanic but I do know my way around engines. Basically I'm here to help and not to far away from Thomo and BA
Happy wife happy life, wait for her to get home.

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Originally Posted by biggqwesty

Yea I get that. But the turbo is a luxury, not necessity.
And not to smash windows here ba's good luck angel must be farking the devil atm.
I'd hate to see all this work again go into the motor then have the cheap turbo do an impeller an fark the internals.
Just smash some 3" mufflers in the system and sell the rest.

Either way it's ba's decision but if it were me I'd take the time, and rebuild an NA motor and have reliable motoring for the next million kilometres.

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But he already has the turbo so why not use it? Would be mad not to!

Would there be much money made back if this motor is rebuilt and then sold?

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Originally Posted by cgm

There sounds to be at least quite a few positives with this approach. It has to be significantly easier with the labour involved. I'm also concerned that it is easy for me to give money, but I'm not gonna get lumbered with all the rebuild work and responsibility. I'm in IT and hate it when people just assume I would have no more pleasure than to spend the rest of my life fixing their computer (even though I don't do PC type IT). I know you are mates George, but there must be some days when you want to see the end of it too.

Been hoping you'd give us an update George. You're obviously an important part of the "brains trust" that BA referred to needing some input from.

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What I want to see the end of is my mate and his famiky being torn up over his car, at the end of the day shit happens, we get over it and move on. Working on cars is what I've done my whole life so the actual physical side of the job is no issue at all even tho I do it day in day out I'd try and help a mate out a pull a 20 hour shift to get them on the road again like I have done in the past in a garage or on the side of the road, its what I do lol. The 2nd hand motor like I said is not onky the fastest alternative but you have some form of piece of mind with some form of warrenty which to me takes some stress away from the situation and not worry about any underlying issues.

Everyone keeps saying to rebuild but no one has asked jonathan if he gas the time or money to do so have they!?

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Originally Posted by biggqwesty

Yea I get that. But the turbo is a luxury, not necessity.
And not to smash windows here ba's good luck angel must be farking the devil atm.
I'd hate to see all this work again go into the motor then have the cheap turbo do an impeller an fark the internals.
Just smash some 3" mufflers in the system and sell the rest.

Either way it's ba's decision but if it were me I'd take the time, and rebuild an NA motor and have reliable motoring for the next million kilometres.

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Look mate this is not the time or place to get into this sort of debate but obviously you don't get nothing coz how do you know the reason it was cheap to buy??? Is it coz of its place of manufacture or coz it was made buy a sub company of one of the well known manufacturers using an older design thats out patent or os it coz it was mass produced to lower the cost of manufacturing?? I don't know where you get your information from but don't believe everything you read or hear

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Originally Posted by Winnie

But he already has the turbo so why not use it? Would be mad not to!

Would there be much money made back if this motor is rebuilt and then sold?

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What he'll save in labour would be the only real earnings but for the amount of work involved its not worth the hassle

Readies has a short motor for $2000 change over he will warranty it. What was the head like?

I will first start by saying chill out and just take a step back. This is not the place for any debate.

Mudski your correct about your block and Jono can easily use his turbo kit with it.

Machining is all cost dependant on how much is required but should not be more than $2000.

I think westy has been misunderstood and no suggestion here is a bad suggestion. He proposed Jono sell his turbo kit to aid with funds for getting this back on the road, sure its a backwards step performance wise but is certainly a way to ease the financial side of it. Again it is only a suggestion.

There should be no "should" or "should not" in this thread, just suggestions and info to arm Jono with all the tools he requires to make an inform decision. Regardless of his decision it will be the right one. There is more to this than just throwing another engine in it.

So lets way up the pros and cons then to help the man out.

Rebuild- Pros- The engine will be fresh and the condition now known, being new should give years of trouble free motoring.
Cons- Time and cost, obviously any machining that may be required will take time, cost will come from machining and parts

Secondhand motor- Pros- The quickest way to have the car running.
Cons- Another unknown, yes there is a 30 day warranty but who says it wont fail and how do we know the condition.

New motor- Pros- Also a quick option and also a warranty is given (either a reco or crate)
Cons- Again cost will be up there.

Keep the generosity, info and suggestions flowing. If Jono has any questions then he is allowed to ask. Sometimes just listening is a good thing.

Yeah I'm in for a Chrissie present for BA also, though I'll probably give you some cold hard cash in the hand

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

I will first start by saying chill out and just take a step back. This is not the place for any debate.

Mudski your correct about your block and Jono can easily use his turbo kit with it.

Machining is all cost dependant on how much is required but should not be more than $2000.

I think westy has been misunderstood and no suggestion here is a bad suggestion. He proposed Jono sell his turbo kit to aid with funds for getting this back on the road, sure its a backwards step performance wise but is certainly a way to ease the financial side of it. Again it is only a suggestion.

There should be no "should" or "should not" in this thread, just suggestions and info to arm Jono with all the tools he requires to make an inform decision. Regardless of his decision it will be the right one. There is more to this than just throwing another engine in it.

So lets way up the pros and cons then to help the man out.

Rebuild- Pros- The engine will be fresh and the condition now known, being new should give years of trouble free motoring.
Cons- Time and cost, obviously any machining that may be required will take time, cost will come from machining and parts

Secondhand motor- Pros- The quickest way to have the car running.
Cons- Another unknown, yes there is a 30 day warranty but who says it wont fail and how do we know the condition.

New motor- Pros- Also a quick option and also a warranty is given (either a reco or crate)
Cons- Again cost will be up there.

Keep the generosity, info and suggestions flowing. If Jono has any questions then he is allowed to ask. Sometimes just listening is a good thing.

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Great post Mat!

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