5 ppl have now escaped, What Irish says is correct with what they are saying on TV.
something along the lines of Allah is the true god and Muhamud is his follower
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5 ppl have now escaped, What Irish says is correct with what they are saying on TV.
something along the lines of Allah is the true god and Muhamud is his follower
I'm sure they have it under control somewhat but Unfortunately the clips on the TV keep showing footage of one police officer waving a pistol hiding behind his ballistic shield pushing another police officer potentially out into the line of fire while near tripping over his own feet. Basically looks like its his first day on the job lol. The media could at least show more footage that's somewhat more professional and not make the Australian police look like amateurs to the rest of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agronaught
Fingers x it is dealt with swiftly with no casualties bar the perps
Police are looking after this "hostage" situation,
it would be entirely different if the Armed forces were called in
Ohh he's no terrorist then lol he's just an Islamic extremist, and when he's beheading any of the "hostages" yelling Allah and flying a faith flag maybe it might get upgraded to terrorism? But only to be degraded to a hostage situation because he's only an individual and not got backing from an abroad terrorism organisation.
Bring back the old days with shoot first questions later.
Once you take away the rights of another person to go about their daily lives, you lose all your rights. This ass has no rights, stop pissing around with him and send a very clear message we don't accept this crap in our free land. This is Australia, if you don't like the way we live here you are welcome to leave.
At this point he's probably an isolated nutter, we've had them before and probably will again. Only time will tell.
Never said he wasn't mate, but the fact that it's being treated as a hostage situation by the police and not an act of terrorism, kind of points to it being just one mentally imbalanced d**khead looking for an excuse as opposed to a wider plot/conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by megatexture
Like I said, I'll be reserving judgement on it 'til all the facts come out.
I also agree that he should probably receive a 180gn migraine to end all of this quickly, but it is what it is, cops are probably trying to end this without any uneccessary casualties.
I don’t think you get what I was saying. Somewhere in the world there will be people (generous description) rubbing their hands with glee because someone believes in their poisonous proclamations. Why? Because the believers actions feeds into the western fear & loathing of Islam, it gives their enemies reason to point the finger, without enemies they are nothing. By encouraging us to become their enemy they are calling the shots. Folk will have their own beliefs but for my part I have no intention of allowing anyone to push me around regardless of their belief system or religion. I refuse to make blind anti islamic statements just because I am upset about the actions of a few whether they be terrorists or madmen, or both. What is happening in Sydney is plain wrong, it understandably angers & upsets others as well as me, but some of the responses show similar mindsets to those they condemn. People are people throughout the world...... please let’s not let this or any similar incident become a reason for justifying hatred & stereotyping whole religions, countries, or races.Quote:
Originally Posted by megatexture
I may be wasting my breath & you may not agree with me but I am prone to saying what I think, particularly to friends. We are all in agreement that what is going on is awful & should not be happening, I’m just trying to make the point that some ways of viewing it result in greater likelihood of these sort of things snowballing. We don’t want martyrs, & we need to remember that violence begets violence. Who started it is of little consequence once deaths have occurred.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. I would hate to think these guys are our supreme police forceQuote:
Originally Posted by megatexture
I don't give a rat's what he is, who he is, what he might represent. He has removed the liberty of free and innocent civilians. He has no longer got any rights himself. The authorities / medicos want him alive to see how he ticks, but at what cost? All day to make a point damaging innocent civilians, no excusable. Be he from any nation, faith whatever, rid that cafe of the threat asap.