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I became ill from vegetarian diet and then vegan diet. That 'cos we're stupid and think we can change our diet over night and think the crap vegan food we eat can give all the nutrition we need. Our culture is designed to get our nutritional needs from animal products.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
You need to do lot of homework and eat shit loads of different vegetables, fruits, whole grains and shit like that if you're to stay healthy and strong as a vegan. Food addiction is a real thing. Our brain is wired to the stuff we eat regularly and get shit loads of pleasure from it. You can't easily go cold turkey if you're an alcoholic, a chain smoker or a drug addict. Food is a drug for our brain.
We get a high from it. If you're wired to get that high from meat through lifetime of eating it, it ain't gonna go away overnight 'cos you decided to go vegan for ethical, environmental or health reasons. Slow transformation is the way to do it.
As for GPs. They know shit about nutrition. The dietitians do. Find me a single dietitian that tells you dairy is good for ya, and I shut up. Dietitians are divided about meat. Biololgy is clear. We are 99.9999 herbivores but we are addicted to meat. I don't have all the answers. I only know it is bad for us in enormous quantities we consume it. As for iron, that's a whole lot of bull whoever the doc told you that. Green vegies like spinach, broccoli etc has shit loads or iron and it is the best way to get ya iron 'cos it doesn't come with ill effects of red meat.
Sure, there are meat eaters that live to 100 years, but not many. Vegans live longer and most importantly their dicks work pretty well in the old age and they don't pee like morse code 'cos vegan diet is damn good for prostate.
My advice for meat eaters is to limit it to weekend barbecue and once a week or so. You don't need anymore than that unless you're Usain Bolt or Ronnie Coleman. As for me, I don't need it at all.
I'm no veggie anymore. I am a recent vegan. Already seen results. No more killing back pains, knee pains or shoulder pains.
Back to weight lifting soon. :D, And I can eat loads of carbs and not put on weight. I've had no chance with that when I was eating meat while eating less carbs than I do now.
Prospective vegans need to find ways to satisfy their food addiction habits by experimenting with recipes and different foods.
It's either bland vegan food and no exercise or good tasting vegan food and regular exercise. Life ain't fair.
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A warning. :D
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Are you related to Cuppa by any chance?
I like eating [emoji220] [emoji220] bugs and meat and fish aaaand bacon annnnd veggies. But I have stuff all milk. Only really when I'm making an omelette or scrambled eggs. Or certain cocktails [emoji106] But we are meat eaters. Our ancestors dating back to Neanderthal and in some cases the missing link (you know who you are) have eaten meat or blood n guts. It's not a modern day trend. Back when our indigenous brothers were ridding good ol oz of mega fauna it was to eat meat. Yes grains and veg were also heavily consumed. Balanced diet comes to mind. Saying we're meant to be vegan is the same as denying evolution and accepting creation as gospel
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If Apes had not started eating meat over a million years ago, we as humans would not be here today. The extra protein led to brain development & the ability to learn & make decisions that led to a longer lifespan & more offspring. If this had not happened we would be still swinging from the trees.
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No, for some it is part of their religion, I worked with a hindu guy who said it was much harder to be vegan in Australia due to the availability of some foods.Quote:
Originally Posted by dom14
In western civilisations veganism is often used to hide an eating disorder.
Cuppa is a carnivore I can vouch for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
Thought I would change the subject and offend different people.
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If you follow his blog and comments no he is no vegan .Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollofish
I wasn't on about his dietry intakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Apollofish
We're all passionate about something, each to his own.
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I think you've nailed it , but is there a fine line between passionate and obsessionate ( ok that's not a word) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollofish
:D, No, but I'll try to find a way to see if I can. ;):clapping::bananadancing::coffeetime:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
Very true. If it is not the bible, it can be veganism. If not veganism, it can be potatosim. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Apollofish
Veganism is pretty rational, but it's not too hard to transform(rationalize) veganism into an irrational belief system.
Then tell us.........:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
That is true to a certain degree, but it is no more true than drinking too much alcohol, chain smoking, drug addiction, eating too much meat, too much carbs, sugar, salt, etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeeYou8
Vegans have mental illnesses just as anybody else.
Hindus and Sikhs are(meant to be) vegetarians(drinks milk, but no eggs or meat).
It is not too hard to be a vegetarian in western world, 'cos eating eggs is also considered vegetarian(but not in eastern cultures). Since you can consume all the dairy products you won't miss much as a vegetarian in the western world. But vegetarians are generally kidding themselves. Dairy products generally can do far more damage to our health than meat.
Vegan eating is not that hard though. It is the dominant food culture that makes it bit hard. Most supermarkets store a wide range of vegetables, fruits and processed vegan foods. Eating potato chips fried in coconut oil or oilive oil & drink Coca cola everyday is 'vegan', but that will kill you quicker than meat eaters. It is the nutrition that we need to pay attention to. Eating different kinds of vegies, fruits, grains, nuts & seeds is the way to go. Avoiding processed foods as much as we can is also a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeeYou8
All the above is easily said than done 'cos it involves changing lifetime of habits. This is why many people switch to vegetarianism or veganism revert back to regular meat eating again.
By my first comment, I meant veganism/vegetarianism can replace traditional religion(s) for some people.
People who dumped all the traditional religions and belief systems, the veganism can enter through backdoor as a religious belief system.
Religion = Something irrational we believe in for emotional comfort of existential issues(Life after death, consciousness, etc)
Somebody can be a dedicated vegan by simply believe in the good of it without giving much rational thoughts to it.
The end result can be good, as long as vegan group A & vegan group B try not to kill each other.
I don't think atheist vegans lifestyle can turn them into ugly divisions like organized religions.
I suspect veganism or vegetarianism is evolving(or has already become) to be a new age religion.
I suspect our human brain is pre-wired to be "religious" one way or the other. In other words, if it not the god, a god, gods, spirits, elves, devils, etc, it will be something else. In that sense veganism may not be a bad idea as an alternative organized religion.
Pedantic vegans may end up doing some good for the future of the humanity and 'saving the planet'(figuratively speaking :))
Because you go on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on............... [emoji3]Quote:
Originally Posted by dom14
Ok.....I'll join ya for for a steak bbq, but I'll bring my own vegie steaks. Is that ok? :D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
You're a total teetotaller aren't ya? That's gonna be a problem, 'cos I like my occasional booze. :D
No problemo, I can bring some non alcoholic beer. :cheers:
You can all argue until you are blue in the face, but I think this may have some bearing on why cancer is so common in this day and age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY
And that doesn't include any nuclear disasters or waste leaks. Enjoy the video.
I only came here for the memes.
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Is that train from the abattoirs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike02Ti
Hope so as we are running low on beef. ;)
Sorry, I couldn't help myself, I will leave it alone now.
Yep, pretty scary to know the true statistics.Quote:
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It's ok to go off the track once in a while as long as there's no competition to stay on track. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TPC
And you're getting it with steroids. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
When did this thread become the vegan thread? I thought it was a light hearted thread about funny pictures
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I didn't do it. Clunk did it. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rusty_nail
I'm opening a vegan thread. :D
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Hey I just put up a load of memes, you're the one with the long winded essays about the virtues of veggiesQuote:
Originally Posted by dom14
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Never trust a clown .
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