Wouldn't want to be a certain owner of a certain pizza shop in a certain western suburb of a certain capital city of a certain Southern Australian state right now. Oooh.
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Wouldn't want to be a certain owner of a certain pizza shop in a certain western suburb of a certain capital city of a certain Southern Australian state right now. Oooh.
The guy was probably working for 'cash in hand' so not on the books as an employee, didn't want to dob himself oor boss in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
The police can't even charge him, he deserves to go to jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
This has cost so much to heaps of businesses and individuals
Fire brigade might just as well start heading over there now I'd reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by TPC
I'm not sure what happened???? I heard he said he worked at the place and wasn't a customer & now they're opening the state up again. Surely that would be worse wouldn't it????
Or have I not heard this correctly??
All other cases had been after extended exposure to family, friends or colleagues
Was a worry that he could get infected with minimal exposure
From what I understand 10G this worker contracted covid in the pizza shop but he originally told the authorities he was a customer. Because they thought he'd only been in there a very short time they thought the strain of Covid was much more volatile than previous covid patterns hence quick decision to shut down. Turns out he was a worker who had spent a lot of time in there, so the strain isn't as bad as they originally thought. Hence now reopening.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10G
so why are they opening the state up again if this bloke who had it worked at the pizza shop, wouldn't he have been able to spread it still???
Oh, I see, that does make some sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plasnart
What a bloody cretin. All the crap he's created, I just drove past a VIC border check station down here this morning, they must have set that up last night. Apparently there are coppers coming down from Melb to man it.
Geez that guy's gonna fry.
Fark people are quick into this ...
T shirts out already.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2020/11/79.jpg
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Didn’t one of our Victorian medium rigid truckers sneak off course to a rural knock shop enroute and lie to Mrs Dan too?
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Yes but he wasn't south Australian so what's the point in making fun of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
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They've declared the start of the fire season tonight and it is still raining. The grass is growing outta control. I am having trouble keeping the lawns and walking tracks clear.
Havnt been on here for a while , sorry for your loss Big fella
Statistically they say: “most accidents occur near home” starting to seriously idiot MB agree :-)
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10hr round day trip up to the forest coupe to check on batteries and gear after Covid lockdown release. Dodged dozens of highway psychopaths and somehow managed to return park the Grandpa Spec ute backwards into a local SubarRoo you Goose MB!
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was coming home the other night, guy was slowly coming out of a street opposite my street, I had to turn right into my street to get home, he'll stop, he'll stop, he'll stop, shik, he's not stopping. Swung onto the other side of the road and missed each other by inches.
Typical H.Rock drivers:smileyvault-cute-bi
was one of those big bastard tractor things that are bigger than tractors
Sounds as if he was too busy contemplating his navel. It would have been a bloody hard hit as machinery has no crumple zones. We should celebrate your lucky escape by going for a bit of a 4wd trip in and around the Cobboboonee.
Took the truck down to my local mechanic to get the overdrive gears fitted and after he confirmed yeah, will be fine, just got the call, he got cold feet, rang a friend who gave him the horror story of having to pull the gearbox apart out of the car etc etc, so he can't afford to do the job and run into trouble at this time of year. Well, don't say you know what/how to do it, then back out. Not happy at all. Picking the car up tomorrow, will be looking for a different mob moving forward. Understand his concerns but I am now left in the lurch so to speak. NOT HAPPY JAN
That's shithouse PB. At least he didn't have it half pulled apart ,and then rang you lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
I had a similar experience after I bought my first Patrol. Before I knew about this forum I took it to a local mob to get the needle and Dawes valve fitted and setup. This is before I knew nothing about anything ...
So I told them what I needed fitted and they're like an yeah that's easy we've done a few to fix the over posting problems yadda yadda ...
Dropped the car off and 2 hours later I get a phone call
".. ummm what are we doing here again? .. sorry can't help you we never saw this vacuum mod before ...." ..
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Yep, really pissed me off. I could have booked it in elsewhere, tried to help out a family friend, let down badly. I won't have a chance to get it done before Xmas now, if they were a bit more honest with me I would not have cared, but now.... I am trying to get everything sorted before I head up north because frankly., quality of living for the next couple of years is going to take a dive again with the FIFO gig, and the last thing i need after a 2 week flogging is to wasting it sitting around waiting for a job to be done on the truck that should/could have been done before i started back. Anyway, i will see if they want to fit the rear spring stiffeners, and maybe they will change their tune with the overdrive gears and allocate the correct amount of time for the job. They were given everything they needed, were briefed correctly, then i find out they thought the job was to install reduction gears, not the overdrive gears. glad they didn't go that path. I think they are probably just burned out and not thinking right - trying to find some reasons why they performed like they did, bitter pill.
I did ring Marks4x4 this afternoon for an alternate recommendation in my area and they came up with two names, but I will have buckley's chance now before mid Jan at earliest i reckon.
What about a specialist like 360 gearboxes in Bayswater?
Thats who was recommended by Mark4x4 today. I tried ringing this afternoon and the phone was engaged for 30 minutes. Depending on the outcome of tomorrow mornings conversation is when i pick up the car, I may give them a ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudnut
Having a bad day today. i sold a HF radio to a guy in NSW and ebay's preferred freight sender is SENDLE. 5 weeks later the parcel still has not reached him and SENDLE can't find it either. Unbelievable in this day of modern tracking how they cannot find the place in their system where the chain was broken. Now the wait and the piss around for both of us as we sort thru the refund/compensation process. NEVER use these guys, check their website ratings, and they don't have a single phone number you can ring - absolutely at their mercy from start to finish and not that much cheaper than Aust Post.
Hey that sounds like a nice idea Craig. It may have to wait for the new year though, now the silly season has started.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudnut
Sounds like a great recipe to piss people off with Phil.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
Well it has ended as best it can I suppose. Ebay have refunded the buyer in full and I keep my sale money. SENDLE unfortunately get to keep their delivery fee. I am going to go the path of making a claim from SENDLE just to try and hold them to account, but really, totally unacceptable. Buyer is without a radio and he now has to find a comparable unit to what he bought, which is going to be very hard at the price I sold it to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10G
Rang them, they want to pull the gearbox out of the car, and replace the bearings and seals as well, $1700 - ummm no thanks, goodbyeQuote:
Originally Posted by mudnut
Picked the vehicle up, and the local workshop is going to do the job on Jan 12, so fresh back from a break and they have nothing booked in, so they can allocate as much time as they think.
Looks like you will all have to put up with me for the foreseeable future after all. What follows is a copy & paste from my facebook page this morning. Grrrrrrr!
A follow on from my last excited & optimistic post about buying the OKA. Another story follows, not the one I wanted nor expected. It is a story of huge disappointment, anger & now after little more than 24 hours to process what happened a sense of relief mixed with the yet to dissipate disappointment of a lost dream we had put so much energy into. This no doubt will become another lengthy post, I believe writing it may be cathartic & helpful to me, & after my previous post I feel the need to explain why I am back in Mutchilba today & not in Taree delivering the OKA to the chap who was going to undertake the transmission change etc for us. It's been another rollercoaster ride. Hold tight & read on!
As planned I flew from Cairns down to Brisbane on Monday to pay for & pick up the OKA to drive it the 600kms to Taree, NSW . It was a nervous time, not because of the amount of money I would be paying or because of any fears about the vehicle or whether I was doing the right thing, but because of the severe weather warnings of dangerous winds & flooding along the whole of the route I needed to drive. Some places had already had up to 600mm in a day, & similar forecast to continue at the time I'd be driving. I was confident about the vehicle & about the seller.
The seller met me as arranged, in Brisbane, & took me to his home where I would spend the night sleeping in the OKA before driving it away the following morning. As on my previous visit I was made welcome & we spent a number of hours going through the OKA to familiarise me with everything as well as eating together & enjoying each other;s company. At mealtime I asked to see the the certificate of Electrical safety for the vehicle's 240v systems he had agreed to get, & was disappointed when , without apology, he told me he had not had it done. Worse was the fact he had not obtained the legally required 'Certificate of Inspection' (the Qld version of a heavy vehicle Roadworthy - or MOT for UK readers) , but "not to worry" he said I can still get it in time for you leave in the morning as planned". This was a relief as I had flight onward from Taree booked & paid for. Half an hour later following a phone call he showed me an email on his phone from the certifier with an attached Certificate & a note to say it had been electronically lodged with the Qld transport authority. Phew! Without this transfer of ownership cannot occur. Later that evening he printed out a copy for me, & I checked it over at about 10pm, just as I was waiting for my laptop to boot up in order for me to transfer funds to him.
My heart sank when I noticed it had an engine number different to what was on the engine in the vehicle, & we quickly reached an impasse with me stating I would not be prepared to risk making payment without such details being correct. He suggested that I drive the vehicle away the following morning but withhold payment until he obtained a correct certificate. I thought this exceptionally trusting & generous of him, but also wondered might happen if a problem arose with the certificate. I had reason to worry as the incorrect certificate was obviously 'dodgy' if for no other reason than it had been sent on the basis of emailed info from the owner, not from an actual inspection. The engine number shown was apparently for the original 4 cylinder motor , even though the certificate stated it had 6 cylinders (as per the all important replacement American import Cummins motor). But still I was intent on keeping to plan to drive the OKA away in the morning.
The seller emailed the certifier & said he would follow this up with a phone call early next morning.
I had a restless night in the OKA, which afforded me time to look at many things in more detail. I laid & mentally constructed the internal modifications I wanted to make.
First thing in the morning I was greeted with "Come & have a cuppa, we need to talk". The tone used was not encouraging & I was immediately concerned. As I walked to the house I note that his wife who had been very hospitable the night before appeared to be avoiding eye contact with me & didn't say a word. I imagined that a correct safety certificate may not be forthcoming until later in the day & resigned myself to a much longer drive in one hit, through the wild weather than I had planned on.
My cup of tea was handed to me with the words "I don't think you are the right sort of person to be an OKA owner". This was out of the blue, I was gobsmacked & confused. I have come to realise that this was an attempt to hold me responsible for the decision that was yet to come. I spluttered & gasped my lack of understanding & attempted to reasonably contradict him. I learned that he had been in contact with the certifier who informed him that the only way to change the certificate was for him to attend a Transport dept office in person & that it was highly likely that they would wish to also sight & inspect the vehicle. At this point I saw my well laid plans disappearing out of the window, but even at this point had not contemplated what was to come!
Out of his shirt pocket the seller produced bundles of hundred dollar notes & a piece of paper. "Here is your deposit & I'll pay for your flight back to Cairns, here are flights available today." I was still spluttering, unwilling to accept that everything I'd planned & hoped for was coming to an end right now. He made it clear he had no intention to present the vehicle to the Transport dept, I thought at the time he meant that day, as he had 'a lot on' but now I think he probably meant 'at all'. As the realisation dawned anger trumped disappointment (although I remained relatively civil, I believe I only used the 'F' word once!). I reminded him of all the costs I had incurred on the basis of the sale agreement we had made, including several flights to & from NSW to check out & drive other OKA's with the Cummins/Allison combo I hoped to get fitted, & to meet the chap who would do the work face to face to discuss & agree on the process. The seller responded with 'how much' & when told simply pulled more cash from his shirt pocket & handed it to me to cover those costs. Truly I was reeling, trying to make sense of the situation.
As I sat at his kitchen table, he went to another room, returning with a paid for flight booking, the plane departing in a little over 90 minutes time & us 45 minutes drive from the airport. "Get your bags" he said, we don't have much time.
As we drove, he seemed far less tense than he had done at the kitchen table. I was angry & felt like telling him so, but instead asked him how he was feeling. "Relieved" he said. "Relieved?" I asked. "Yes, I've been worrying that sooner or later you would discover that the Cummins motor is in fact a Chinese copy" says he. This admission that he had been prepared to deceive me was made in the complete absence of any apology. In fact no apology had been forthcoming about things he had agreed to do & not done, or indeed anything else. I expect he had realised that his offer for me to take the vehicle to Taree prior to payment would see the engine deception discovered as soon as it was looked at there by someone familiar with the Cummins motors (unlike me). All was conducted in a friendly manner - very disconcerting. My gut feeling was that as a successful & wealthy businessman, that anything that didn't fit for him was expendable including people, & that apologies were probably something not in the businessman's repertoire. Such things most likely only represented something never contemplated - an admission of guilt.
The two hour flight & 90 minutes drive back to Mutchilba gave me time to begin processing what had happened, later discussion with Julie & friends helped. I turned over every detail I could recall about the affair & about the vehicle again & again. But the story had so many inconsistencies I struggled to gain the certainty I needed about why this had happened. I even started to blame myself even though I couldn't pinpoint what I had been responsible for. It was a pretty 'shit' experience.
Finally this morning I have reached an understanding which fits. Although I am unwilling to detail all the snippets of info which have led to this understanding for fear of both boring you to tears & risk of litigation from the wealthy seller, I am now confident in my belief.
Unlike my home state of Victoria (& most other states I believe), where vehicle modification approvals are carried out by well qualified motor engineers in a very regulated system, in Queensland any motor mechanic with 10 years experience in the trade can apply to become a 'certifier'. Many have & there are a plethora of one man mobile services offering Certificates of
inspection & Modification plates. A quick search on Google reveals that dodgy certificates & plates are not uncommon.
I now believe that the significant modifications on the OKA (Engine replacement, GVM upgrade, home made fuel tank, change in seating & possibly more) have probably been subject to the same dodgy practice as the Certificate of Inspection, quite possibly through the same certifier. All stuff waiting to 'bite' me down the track when I went to re-register the vehicle in Victoria. I believe the seller knowing that things were at the point of unravelling if an inspection at the Department were to occur, felt 'on a hook' & that the only way to extricate himself from that situation was to get rid of me quickly. And that is just what he did.
I remain angry which is probably important in coming to terms with the 'lost dream'. Some of that anger is with myself for having allowed the 'dream' to blind me until a very late stage of the proceedings, in particular that it was the seller's decision not to proceed, rather than mine. However I do take some solace in the fact that however it happened, I 'dodged a bullet'. If the truth had come to light after I'd handed over the money the situation would have been far worse.
What a bastard! Stuff like this shakes one's faith in humanity, but I expect the trust to return with time. Friends have been good
I'm devastated and relieved for you Cuppa. If a stranger told me that story at the pub I would not believe it.
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Crikey, so sorry to read that for you both Cuppa Mates!
Keep your chins up, as you wisely state, it would have no doubt been a real disaster down the Vic Roads home track!
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That's horrible Cuppa! I can't make sense of why he would lie all that time and then just 'fess up about everything at the end for no particular reason.
Don't be mad at yourself mate. You did the right thing, checked the paperwork and made sure it was in order before handing over the money.
Firstly, Commiserations on having your dream shattered.
I am glad you stuck to your guns and refused to pay when you discovered the wrong digit.
Name and shame?
I wonder if he could be held responsible for manslaughter if you karked it because your Chinese knock off motor, caused an accident or left you stranded in the middle of nowhere?
Cuppa, my friend. As they say it is a shit relief... As imagine what could've been...
I am gutted for you as we all are, but also happy as you could have been put on a grill over severely hot coals.
Chin up and enjoy that TD you've built a little while longer!
A workmate of mine has gone missing in either Mount Dissa or Lake mountain, it's now been day 2.
Concerns are heightened as it is extremely out of character for him to stay overnight, as he is known to do day-trip hunts.
Fingers crossed.
Is this the guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
https://www.police.vic.gov.au/search...n-andrew-louws
His car is pretty recognisable. Hopefully Andrew is found safe today.
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yeah Winnie thats him mate.
@Cuppa
Holy moley mate, that is one amazing bullet dodge you've performed there. Don't be hard on yourself, from what I've read and comprehended, it was you sticking to your guns regarding a fine-print incorrect detail that forced him into his bail-out panic. I'd say bloody well done mate!
Very sorry that your dream didn't come true this time, but as others have said you would have been burnt badly had it gone through.