Depending on the age of the Jayco Robo. One can't expect them to keep every part for every model they ever built. Atleast Jayco know how to built a trailer...
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Almost finished re-wiring the entire trailer. I have now added two LED reverse lights. I am still yet to decide on the final placement of the water pump. I have replaced all the cheap clear PVC hose with food grade hose. This I am not sure on the laws, but I would have thought it would need to be food grade hose they need to use. By Law.
I was just about to start putting the fitting back in the tank and I thought to jam the hose in the tank and flush it out. See pics for what and how much came out!!!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...id=50722&stc=1
Mind you this was the second time around draining the tank...
The hose supplied by MDC...
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...id=50725&stc=1http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...id=50726&stc=1
And yet another stripped lead found...
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...id=50727&stc=1
So all I have left to do, for now, is plumb the pump, replace the leaking shocker and figure out this volt/ amp meter gauge wiring.
Just pull off the shocks?, mine has none and it doesn't bounce around. or pull one side off and see if it jumps more on that side and then decide
We are looking at a camper thanks for the advice Mark, I am sorry it has come at such a great price to you.
I have contemplated it. But doing all the other crap on the trailer, and still doing it, I haven't really though much about them. Getting this amp meter wired in will do my head in I think.
It's not difficult at all, just don't wind out the wire clamps on the board too far or you will want to smash it into pieces lol
Yeah I know. I the type if I don't quite understand how and why something works, I find it difficult to install. I just need to sit down and work it out first. Adding the second battery and the BCDC1225 in and so it can be charged via the car, panels or mains was a task for me. But I got it...
Hi all. Thinking of getting the V5 from MDC and was just wondering if there has been any changes to the quality. The last previous post on this was Oct 2014, so any updates. Mudski - all good now or still fixing things?
Dont buy one mate. Rays have dropped the line of MDC campers. They soon realised how shite they are... well actually i will say this again. They are a good trailer, built well, mine has oodles of storage. They just throw the trailers together without a care. All the eff' ups on my trailer are from whoever assembled it.
I thought i had fixed all issues, but found another. Coming back from our easter trip we pulled into a small town for lunch and a car pulls up behind us. The chap gets out and says he noticed my trailer tracks slightly to one side of the car. I had seen ghis in the mirrors but just thought it was the angle of the mirror to the trailer.
So i get home and run a piece of wood across the guard of the trailer. I have found the axle is not exactly 90 degrees to the trailer. Explains the trailer tracking to one side.
So another thing to fix....
I do contract work for the SCA group, Supercheap, BCF, Rays etc etc. I have bumped into quite a few disgruntled MDC owners now who come into the stores. All have said the same thing, trailer is built pretty good but put together by a 2 year old. And all have said the same about the after sales service. Rude and appalling.
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Friends of ours just bought one. I laughed at him and maybe offended him but silly him for not researching and he got sucked into the sales pitch..
They stated all damage was mainly caused by delivery companies. Bahahahaha.
Anyway they paid top dollar for the "first 2015 black" pro whatever it is.
Tbh.... It looks like a cheap black trailer with a tent on it.
They still use a cheap cramp imported tent setup which is crap.
They only pivot 2 roof supports from the trailer.
My olds camper had 3 and the father Inlaw modded his now to swing 3 from the trailer.
That leaves only one roof support (end wall) to be erected manually.
Windows only open from the outside. That's a pain.
Inlaws is a chinese camper around 5 years old. Canvas seals are letting go.
Anyway. If it was me and your looking at budget Id by a second hand quality one for sure. There is a wicked one down here atm and they can't move it.
They are watching cheap ones go for $500 less. If your interested I'll get some details to you
years ago, I had a Jayco Cub Swan......... pushup roof, slide out beds....... pretty much one of the first of that type
had it for years and years, when I needed parts for it, as Robbo said - Jayco dont hold spares for them for very long, and I couldn't afford the $$$$ aftermarket were charging, so I made what I needed myself......
got out of camping for a few years, kids were growing up, life was getting in the way, holiday camping time was over - (went camping Via Sheraton & Flag motor Inns)
once the kids were gone, I thought, "hey I wanna go camping again...."
so started the long process (2.5 years) of looking at :-
swags - SWMBO was not impressed
Tents - we started that way before the kids came along...... SWMBO was not impressed
Camper Trailers -
started at the real cheap end.... wasn't big enough, maybe a few $$$ more.......
mid priced ones - didnt like the layouts, or the tent material, or the size,maybe a few $$$ more........
horribly expensive for what you get ones - its a tent on a trailer for Fooks sake, for a few $$$ more, I can get a Camper Van
righto
Camper Vans :-
fold up Cub types - too small, maybe a few $$$ more,
Jayco types - hmmmm not bad thank you, now to find the size and style we like
for only a few ($2000.00) more than the top of the wazza Camper Trailer, I brought a 1 year old Flamingo Outback
I had this for 5 years, and did numerous trips around WA
when I sold it, I lost $2000.00 on the deal from what I paid
I upgraded 2 years ago into a Jayco Expanda Outback, and have never looked back
yes I know of people with heaps of problems with their Jayco's from new
but Jayco's after sales service is second to NONE in the industry - ring them up, tell them the problem, they send you to a repairer, and its fixed, even when its out of warranty (as long as its design fault),
I have heard of people with the same problems as Mudski - crap wiring, crap in the water tanks, etc - and they have been fixed no problemo
when we looked at the Expanda, we also looked at the Windsor Rapid
better fittings, crappy colours, better built, heavier, and $10K dearer
I'm happy with my Expanda, it ticks all the boxes for me - maybe not everyone, but I brought it for me............
same as Mudski - he brought what would suit his needs, unfortunately MDC have a bad rap for build quality, after sales service, and product - but he is fixing his problems to make it better.
my advice is
if you know how to, and can fix things - buyer beware
if you know sod all, and cant boil an egg - buyer beware
I've had my MDC XT10 for over a year now.
Have had no problems with after sales service here in WA, indeed would rate it pretty high actually.
When an axle failed at Docker River on it's maiden voyage MDC went all out to get me back on the road ASAP, organised the freight etc from Perth/Adelaide/Yulara and paid the Yulara repairer direct.
When I got back to Perth they removed all the original suspension completely and fitted a complete new (and much better) version.
Agree with comments about assembly, it is a kinda rocks or diamonds scenario but is def improving.
I was in the showroom the other day and most of the "rocks" I know about on mine have been improved on the new ones.
A few of my fellow Clubbies have MDC trailers now and seem OK with them but I guess the best comment I can make is they are what you pay for.
You won't get a $70,000 off road awesomely put together trailer, say, Kimberley standard construction for $35,000.
Your a lucky man ET. They have a really bad rep here in Melbourne. Buy you do get what you pay for. Ive spent a fair bit on mine since the purchace of it, so now its even better than new. I just need to fix the axle issue before the next trip.
I had an issue with water leaking into the top seal and caused mould to grow all over the tent, the Perth dealer has completely replaced all of the canvas components with new tent and all others. Have not checked it since as I have been over East for a while, will check it when I return and then I will be selling it as it is way too big for me now.
Hmm seems the western distributors for MDC actually care about their customers once they have made the purchase. Thats a good thing....
Yeah, agree with you there.
I found the S.A. MDC guys very easy to deal with when they had to act as middlemen to get the gear to Yulara to fix mine as well but cannot comment on service issues with them.
Brissy head office seemed good but can be very hard to get the right person so I found email best but still have to wait a while if they are out on the road
I've also spent a lot of time on mine changing things to suit like replacing a fasteners with longer ones or Stainless and the stone guard doesn't suit my Ute so I'll get a custom one done.
Water tankage plumbing wasn't how I wanted it either (all 3 tanks interconnected) so I have added extra plumbing and stop cocks
I kinda look at it like my 'Trol... a work in progress and marginally cheaper than owning a boat
Hmmm you guys are starting to scare me. Might have to look at putting a tent on my POD.
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Sent an email to the manufacturer and he replied to just bring it into the factory and they could do it. Just sent another email pointing out he is in Victoria and I am in WA. Trying to find out if they do a kit.
Its seems mate that the WA MDC guys are good. Their rep here in Melbourne, and from what I have read in QLD, is in tatters. Ray's dropped the line because of issue with them here in Melbourne. They are a cheap/er trailer, you do get what you pay for. But even though they are cheaper than other known branded trailers, doesn't make it ok for things to go wrong in my eyes. I forked out around 14k for our trailer and have spent around $1500 on top. About $500 of it was buying things just to fix up their stuff ups, not to mention the amount of hours doing all this.
Its still a good trailer, no doubt. Well built, or designed I should say. Its just their assembly left a lot to be desired.
Just keep this in mind.
PML at the $$$$$ paid for a trailer and a tent,
BA may trump everyone building his own.
IMO $14k plus for a trailer/tent is ridiculas.
Not sure what other options are better,
but sellers are laughing all the way to the bank
Sort of like lures catch more fisherman than fish
Hi 4bye4. They do make a couple of camper options for the pod trailer. A rear folding quick tent and a side folding tent that is a little larger. There is a dealer here in SA (The Dirt 4WD) that sells them I have put a link in to their site.
http://www.thedirt4wd.com.au/Pod_Trailer.html
The other advantage is that you will have a very light and fuel efficient set up compared to the MDC which is a traditional steel trailer type of set up. Corrosion resistant as well!
Thank for the link mate - I have been talking to the manufacturer in Vic. The want $9995 for the tent and a new top plus postage. Good quality Southern Cross material but still out of my budget at this time. I would thing that the lick to Sa company will be just an onseller of the Vic manufacturer so price will not be much different.
Anything quality in this industry costs a sh1te load. How much would the MDC cost? Surely over $10000?
Maybe a good second hand Aussie built camper might be the go.
Evolution of camping ! ( for me)
1 surfboard cover on the beach
2 tent
3 ute decked out
4 camper trailer ( modified jayco )
5 off road van ( modified jayco )
Hind sight and wallet tell me should have skipped 2,3 and 4 , but had a shit load of fun anyway !
Thanks mate - it's not done to mention a ladies age, but lets say I'm 64 and my missus is the same age as me. Surfboard cover on the beach just ain't gonna hack it.Best for her would be luxury hotel in each town, me I don't mind so much. Somewhere in between is what we need to do. Rock Trol asked how much MDC stuff cost. Cheapest one is about $5000. and not worth it. Without starting a blog about shonkey advertising, they advertise $3999, $4999 etc, but when you add the extras like spare tires, kitchen and things it gets more expensive. $3999 for instance pretty much gets you a trailer, built from flat pack and minimum quality and size tent on top. I was never going into the basic model. I revived the thread because they had a name for falling apart and I wondered if they had improved. Appears not. Anyway its interesting to see what people think and recommend and I am watching all replied. Incidentally, I can understand that if you buy cheap you may have to tweak a bit and tighten a few bolts, but axles mounted off straight, well that got to be almost unroadworthy in my mind. I'd be pissed if I got yellowed as I drove home from the store.
Incidentally guys, we are currently using a tent.
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Yea thanks Clunk - that's a possibility and also taking the pod top off and putting a camper tent on top. I'm sure you know the feeling starting off with a simple idea and ending up trying to rearrange the universe.
Now thats a good idea... You'd need stabilizer legs on the trailer but may work. Make the entire thing removable so you can even sit it on the ground and still use the roof top tent. I saw this when up on the Murray last easter. A falcon ute drove part our camp with this steel frame thing bolted to his ute tray, this frame had the roof top tent on it. The next day we went for a walk and the entire frame was off the ute and on the ground and the tent still ontop but all setup. the then had covered storage underneath the tent and still had their car to drive around in.
Wish I had taken a photo of this. Awsome setup...
thats a very similar setup to my trailer guys(the hinging part), mark, youve seen it i think? ill dig up the thread and post it in here for ideas. very very easy to use.
check that out for build ideas, ive got heavy duty long gas struts underneath it and it lifts up all nice and easy. its hinged from two but removable gate hinges from bunnings, and its held down by two of those clips things that hold ute tray sides on??? lol
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...r+build+thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsDS1VCJ-qk
Here ya go. Maybe someone will be interested
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