PM sent Ozzy, What bullbar do you have fitted???
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PM sent Ozzy, What bullbar do you have fitted???
Pm sent John
Tap till ya can tap no more.....
Thanks Clunk, think I've answer your question. There are 4 options for the rear
Can put 2 on the front if prepared to remove the Bullbar.
Thanks mate, you sure have. PM returned.Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
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John could you pls PM me a price for one front recovery point to fit a 2003 GU ST please mate - shipped to Brisbane 4054?
Could u also send a price for the rear loop too mate? Thanks heaps.
PM sent Monty, you'll like that rear loop every Patrol should have one, hint hint lol
As I said will be out of action all of next week after that I should be fine
Nice to see rated recovery points being pushed but after 12 months do you need to replace them or take them to a shop to get tested and re rated and do you have the engineers report for your rating claims and how often and what weld tests do your rear hoops go though. Just so I know before I consider up grading my points
well done John, some awesome stuff here thats for sure. You know how to fabricate some kick arse products.
Those knives look the ducks nuts I might add. I had a fare collection of knives when I was a young bloke, from the standard Bunny Knife to fillet and skinning knives!
Argh, the memories!
Just anotha brotha from anotha motha, Seems funny how like minded a lot of us are, but meet here, its like a magnet, Bloodyaussie is same and a few other. Gunna be awesome "around a campfire, Somewhere"
I dont understand what you are after Macca, those recovery points are steel plate, some models may have a weld as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca86
If you have used them and the have distorted, which I doubt will happen, then they will need to be assesed for safe use.
Do you put you other recovery equipment to the same testing proceedure?
Shackles, straps, winch rope, hook, mounting points. etc etc.
Do you have engineers certificates for them?
Going by what John TD has sent me the plates will out last the chassis, its probably 10 time thicker than the Nissan steel its bolted to.
You will not be dissapointed in his products mate.
The reason I got them from John is there were those cast iron hooks with the spring steel keeper on my ute. The snatch strap / winch rope has come off them due to driving through the obstacle then I had no assistance IYKWIM. Now with this design it is shackled to the car and can not come off, much safer and greater confidence in the recovery process.
Good luck with your mods mate.
I get my shackles tested at work my 9000 kg snatch strap has. Been used 5 times this year for gentle pulls they won't tag it as its not a lifting strap as its elasticated. My issue is if its claimed to be rated I want to see the proof before I purchase if I can't see the proof for testing engineering certs then I may as well make my own and say they're rated especially with the welded rear bracket is it just a 6mm con fillet around it or full pen v prep weld has it been x rayed ultra sound or mag particle tested if so what percentage of production etc. I can obtain this info for my strap (self checking ) and shackles
Guys, just a quick hi jack but on topic. What grade blots do people use to bolt the recovery points on.
I read grade 12.9 is the go and not to put any washers on as they don't work as well.. ..is this correct??
Also, does any one know the bolt size for front points on a GU8??? (gu5 onwards I think)
The front points are one piece so don't require weld, They are tow tested to NATA std, EG one point I Tested great for 2.5 ton, destruction testing saw it break around 15t. I have seen copies with this same point rated at 12t. Anyway don't stamp them all shops or mining bodies can request a fax of the test. they aren't going to NASA, but they are very strong. Sure I can re design them to maybe never breaking. But can't see anyone paying $400 a pair,
Nisshead Grade 8 or better is fine and definetly zinc plated thread pitch is 14mm x 1.50 x 50mm is the size, could use a hi-tensile washer if you like but normal washer will stop bolt head taking off powder coating
PM sent to Threedogs.
Pm found not all stamped as sell too many , out of the thousands sold not one has come back if yo want to make your own macca86 that fine but dont xpect me to give any info one how its made what grade steel I use etc. Good,. Make sure your insurance Co. is Happy to look forward to your , I sell to Rio tinto and other big bodies as well. I cant vouch for to low lifes that had no imput in designing, testing or fitting. I do all three The ones that copy dont and are blalant lyers. ,as I get mates mates to ring and quiz them some are even cut from chinese steel . shite you cant even weld that stuff. this is the very last time time I'll go on about this but if you think you can build a "wheel" at a cheaper price and rated to tow not lift like all the copies. I"LL quit and work else where maybe NASA., Should be interest.ring to see what you rate them at
c'mon guys, ease up a bit.
I agree. Ease up and keep it positive:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
Threedogs, I know you make a great product and can't imagine how pee'd off you must be by all the cheap products out there as you quite obviously have a very high regard for safety. I dont think anyone in this thread is setting out to have a go at you or your products. But every manufacturer out there has to put up with questions about their products. I'm going to get some of your recovery points (one day lol) and I feel totally comfortable taking your word for the integrity of your product, but it would be great to show the actual testing and results that you keep referring to.
Get it all the time my points are accepted by mining companies ,4x4 clubs except one guy. I Know my products stand by themselves, They are rated to tow not LIFT like the copies . Don't know how many times I have to explain this to all newbies who know it all. my answer is simple buy the copies Dont but from me it's that easy. and put up with their lies on how they designed, fitted and tested "THEIR PRODUCT" Hope you are happy with their lifting rating, Then you can start another thread I brought cheap unrated recovery points.I do this for a living a dont trace other peoples products and sell them. Some cant even come up with an original product of their own, and they know who they are,. No more to be said unless I get kicked off forum for speaking the thruth., Sorry Macca Thats is from me didn't want this to happen at all. so I apologise to thr Forum AS for joe blow wanting test results I'm not sure Its like tell the opposition how they work' I will however say what ever your tow rating is be it 2.5 or 3.5t dependind if outo or manual that is the rating. I then detruction test it and if It breaks at lest than 20t its failed in my books and I re design it, I have post after post on this procedure, once I acheive 20t plus it goes on the Shelf. Now every one who copies my products has this info and can quote saying thats the way they do it, NO more Info ever. GO buy a copy Dont want your Business
Ok.............
Seems like you're aiming that at me. Am I the 'joe blow'?
I believe your products are tested thoroughly and I really will get one, one-day (on a long list if mods lol). I do not doubt your word. I was merely saying that a graph or test result page or similar would be awesome to have at the start of the thread. Anyway, keep up the good work. The more high quality recovery gear on the market, the less likely it is to have injury or death from unfortunate circumstances. Who knows how many lives you've saved already:-)
Dont think he was Lucas but do agree that it would quiet the doubters.. I also want a set but it is also on my list and I have no doubt what so ever of there integrity!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
I feel as though I contributed to what is happens here. I asked questions on ratings tests load capacities weld tests and standards etc. I believe as a consumer I am entitled to make an informed decision on spending my money so I asked for the proof in the pudding. Many people have asked the same but you can't blame them. I am not new to this area of ratings. I'm a boilermaker (ive welded and fabricated lifting lugs and lifting beams for mining vehicles rated to 30 ton swl) and done rigging too. I was researching. I could make these if I wanted but couldn't be bothered and I support vendors here. Just thought it could have been better handled. threedogs what I asked wasn't ment to be personal attacks or having a go at your product it looks good I would buy them but as you said should buy the copies since I asked for proof
1 They are NATA rated to tow whatever your car is capable of, some copies say 12 ton and some are to lift so buyer beware .there is is no way breathing I'll rate mine that high it's an accident waiting to happen.
2nd reason Is I know zip about pooters so have no idea how to put them up. ALL are NATA rated and not one has been returned yet, touch wood, tend to over engineer if possible
Try a photo? Might be clear enough
hi john can you give me a price on the gu recovery points and yes i have the captive nuts on the bottom of the rail
so i need the right angle ones
also do you supply the bolts as i only need 2
i will use the bolts from the hook that is already there
hope this makes sence
love your posts
pluss postage to adelaide 5083
thanks again stephen
is you paypal working yet or direct debit
sorry sent pm after posting
Is this the thread that we get to kick the dog in????
Sorry bud, I couldn't resist.....hehehe
yes but which dog are you talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Yendor
this one or the one in W.A
I was talking about threedogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by my third 256
That one in WA sounds like a tough bugger, would probably eat my boot and half my foot lol
yeah might as well rip into me , seems to be open season,
PM sent my third 256
Back in you kennel boy. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
Never argue with an idiot, cos he'll bring you down to his level, then beat you with experience. Y2K
hey threedogs i like the recovery point on him did you make that one too lolQuote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
Hi threedogs. Got a GU 8 - I'll PM you for a price but after two of them. Been meaning to hit you up for them!
Jas
bolts wont go through the holes
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will have to file out holes
you might need to look at this threedogs
Pooter love it :)
I see your problem..................there are 2 different types of bolts, 1 is a bolt the other is a setscrew *LMAO*Quote:
Originally Posted by my third 256
May be you need a hammer for this install? lol
Fixes most things does it not???Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
nah its the thread wont go through
die must be warn for the hole
I had the same issue. Not sure if Nissan changed things but the holes in the plates are 13mm, the blind nuts, and therefore the bolts into the chassis, are 14mm.
Took mine to a local engineering shop and he milled the holes out for me, then I just sprayed a bit of paint on and all good.
PS. The engineer was VERY impressed with 3D's plates.
You may have one of the older ones theses fit about 6 different 4x4. just so the opposition that copies them I wont name them. They have since had 14.5 holes laser cut. just use a die grinder to take a piece of material out. try coming up with one product that fits 6 plus 4x4, sorry for inconvience. Also trying to cool down. Will double check with laser cutter in the morning