would the clubs pick it up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
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would the clubs pick it up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
They may well do........ specially if their members are as serious as most of us about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Silver
Probably looking at $8 for a one-off sticker (around 200-300mm wide, single colour). But as for the other stickers, if we can decide on a single design then i can do heaps at a time and get the price right down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver
Yeah probably a good idea to start a poll. Should i make one in 4x4 safety?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
You would like to think that any responsible club would pick this up (will be showing these to my club for sure) also maybe we could get 4wd tv to run with this promoting it as a nissanpatrol.com.au forums initiative.
Taslucas any way stickers could possibly have proudly sponsord by www.nissanpatrol.com.au along the bottom somewhere?
Probably could but the vinyl lettering can only go down to about 10mm high. If i get them digitally printed then it can be as small as it wants but the cost of the stickers would go up.
Lucas a poll would be the way to go be maybe post up in safety first the moderators would move it to the right spot if it had to be moved
Thanks Taslucas, I'll order one with the other sticker when the time comes - after the poll. Is there any chance you could add that sticker as an optional extra in that poll? (to gauge if there is any interest in it apart from little old me :-) )Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
Rick
I have an idea that I'm running past AB at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver
Many people are keen on stickers, so....... what wording/colouring do you think should be on it?
If anybody has any info at all regarding deaths, injuries or damage caused by towballs, please add it here.
This includes web links. The more publicity this subject gets, the more it should sink in to peoples' heads about the dangers and consequences.
My idea will go outside the square.
I've put up a few samples a few pages back.Quote:
Originally Posted by DX grunt
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this makes reference to a towball death
http://www.fairtrading.qld.gov.au/Ab...rap_safety.pdf
Tasmainian towball death
http://www.themercury.com.au/article...ania-news.html
http://ep4wdclub.asn.au/yahoo_site_a...p.35135905.pdf
That last one in Tassie is a horror story. R.I.P. Josh.
When you drive down the west coast, you have go past where it happened. There was a little shrine with his photo on it for a while. Such a barren lonely place to leave this world......
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The Tassie accident involved a failure of a weld in the component to which the tow ball is bolted, due to rust etc, not the tow ball.
This highlights the need to assess the whole recovery point, whatever it happens to be, for corrosion, cracks and other issues.
It was a home weld job. They had welded the towball tongue into the receiver allowing water to be trapped behind and therefore rust out and weaken the wall thickness. The towball, tongue and part of the receiver let go and went through the windscreen then Josh's head then landed NINETY METRES behind the 4wd....... Chilling stuff
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its been changed to a D shackleQuote:
Originally Posted by patrol2.8
lucas pm me your details when you have them ready
No worries Roofy. I'll get a poll going this weekend and once we settle on q design I'll get some made upQuote:
Originally Posted by roofy
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Ouch thats gotta ruin your day
Call me Biast, but I think my design spells out exactly what and why.
Snatch Strap + Towball = Death!
We can't just tell them not to use snatch strap and towballs.
In traffic at lights etc you have about 30 seconds for someone to notice your sticker, read it, and digest it.
The above is the old "KISS" rule, (keep it simple stupid).
I suggest 75mm high, Red, and a font similarto Newspaper Headlines. I also suggest set the same as I typed it, Death being in bold while the first bit in standard.
I will the buy at least five for myself, and ask my club to purchase 50.
Tim
Just because you are biased doesn't mean it ain't a good idea Tim :-)
Sounds like Taslucas can do a few designs if those wanting something different are prepared to pay a tiny bit more.
I wonder how it would look as a pictograph? The towball and the Death's head are easy - the strap might be tougher?
From my perspective, (I must have been hanging around those stylish GU owners too much) I want a sticker that fits somewhere fairly neatly on my wagon, without blocking too much rear vision. I'm aiming for the back step.
There's always spare wheel covers and other places to display the message too.
I have half a tailgate, So better thinkabout white for that.
Tim
Sticker poll is now open:)
good work mate
Another note to add to this WARNING.
This weekend we were 4wding and had to snatch a Suzuki Feroza from a river crossing. there was a bit of a current and we were in a bit if a panic about them being washed away, the snatch strap was hooked over the Factory Tow hook on the front of the Zook. Thinking these tow hooks would be a safe place to snatch from I hooked the snatch onto there, being in a rush and expecting it to be an easy snatch of pulling a dead and light 4wd and a 10,000kg snatch the dampener bad was forgotten... this almost ended in my girlfriend being KILLED. If I hadn't shut the rear hatch it would have hit her for sure. The Factory Tow hook flew off the Zook smashing it into the rear door of a 100 series Cruiser with enough force to punch two holes and a big dent in both halves of the door.
So i think it's safe to add Factory tow hooks to the "DANGER list" And remember kids, ALWAYS use the dampener bag!!!
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F@rkn lucky mate!!!
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Jeez mate, very lucky indeed
One question Matt...... what the #$%@^@$%^@#$ were you doing in a Toyota! *L*
Good 2 hear everyone came out unharmed and thanks for posting it up here ( and relpying on FB )
Cheers
Todd
Maaate that was lucky, just got to use an air brake all the time.
Thanks for the graphic lesson.
A few seconds longer setting up can save so much hassle as you have shown here.
The Zook was still stuck while you gathered yourselves togeather again.
Getting hard to work out what is safe to attach to when you see this happening.
Bet the heart rate went up!!!!
I think it's only a matter of time before some poor soul get's their head mashed, then something might be done about it.
Only so much can be done on forums to alert folks to the danger but if you are not a forum member and have never been told, you are at risk without even knowing.
Big thanks to Mudslut for that post.
Cheers, the ferret.
There's already been A LOT of deathsQuote:
Originally Posted by the ferret
And don't I know it, but there is bound to be more sadly, and when you least expect it, it can happen sooooo quick, no time to duck for cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
Cheers, the ferret.
No worries guys, I'm defiantly going to always use a weighted bag every time from now on, no matter how easy of a recovery it's "meant" to be. The answer to why I was in a Toyota, my patrol is STILL in the shop getting the new diffs put in. Coming up to a month now ;(
Education ,education, other than forums, clubs need to stress that point no end to new members, I'm ex TLCCV and did driver awareness like everyone else. can't remember anything about TOWBALLS. I know the PREZ of 4WD VIC and will be requesting he put in bold letters a warning in any future issue of track watch, as well as the TLCCV mag. I know heaps high up in trade and Mags so will shoot an email to all. every 4x4 mag should have a warning on every page down the bottom. leave it with me. Lets say right now NO MORE DEATHS OR INJURIES
ARB 4 x 4 Accessorriesis is informing its Facebook readers about the dangers of snatching from tow balls - Thanks heaps guys. It's much appreciated.
Please, no comments about vehicle brand!!!.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...count=1&ref=nf
Take care out there.
Rossco
We have a supporter. Read the above thread.
Hi guys, great to see you supporting this cause.
Here's a shot of the photo we posted on Facebook in case some members don't have an account.
Cheers, Sam.
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/...13817332_n.jpg
That photo has been posted on here twice, once by DXgrunt (from your FB page) and once a few months ago. Theres some other nasty similar photos about too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ARB 4x4 Accessories
Thanks for supporting the issue too Sam:)
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I've updated what I've been able to do so far but its on the other thread, please read it