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its a bit of a punt :) getting new rims and tyres (not retreads/recsaps/remoulds) lessens the odds of that combination being out of round and closer to being balance neutralQuote:
Originally Posted by Silver
but, my assumption was on the prev that he should swap tyres with a known vehicle - on that basis, all of what I inferred before should apply.
I reckon you got lucky :)
I reckon you could be right - the replacement tyres and rims were ex desert racing, with multiple tread blocks missing and all kinds of ugly stuff going on.... but they worked beautifully :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by gf0012-aust
As did the second lot of brand new Dakkars, and unlike the first lot of brand new Dakkars.
Instantly stopped any rot about 'These nissans have weak king pins' and other stuff the dealer was starting to say.
Every time I have bought new tyres since, I have been able to say 'these tyres are worn, but ride well, so if the new ones don't I am going to blame the new tyre - do you want to take it for a drive before fitting?' thus far they have declined and there have been no issues.
My point exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver
I've done this myself.
Even bought new rims and tyres and wobble instantly gone.
Once they start to wear abit, the shake comes back.
And you bet ya, out of round rims and tyres again.
I'd like to add here, this is not just my point of view about the rims.
I was told this buy the local tyre guy.
"9/10 times new rims bent"
"not the same shop who sold em to me".
He was trying to help me get rid of the shake.
He showed me my bent rims.
And stuffed low k tyres.
I bought them both new, at the same time together.
Even specifying std 16" size rolling diameter and off set.
Had the wheels and tyres and rims balanced seperatly to ensure the best possible final balance.
Never been Off Road.
And would have to also say these had a easy go of it, vehicle never loaded up.
I Also have replaced everything.
there was physically nothing left apart from rims and tyres.
replacing everything got rid of the wobble but was left with a shake.
Only good "true rims and tyres" finally fixed the unbalance shaken 4x4 patrol.
Does it do it in 4 wheel drive. Don't know what it proves. Works on paddock vechile. Speedlimiter worked till my wife figured it out.
Bent diff? Most whel aligners check castor not camber(is that right way round).
Had 3 alignments with different mobs and insides of tyre still worn. Took it back and they saiid'sorry we can't do it , or check it). As said before get a good bar and lean on bush nuts particulrly the ones on the bar that stopd side to side. Lean out eindow and have a look , new bushs and I could still see whell sideways movement
I forgot. Check wheel alignment your self. just get apeice of straight heavy wire and cut it off and adjust toe in till wire fits in tread on front and 3mm play on back. Done it a couple off times to get to town and no shake and spot on when aligned. Best of all still had tread tires when I got there.
We are all looking for answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by jedskipow
Please explain, you recon a bent diff and faulty new bushes.
Most of us have probably tried, rubber and urethane.
In a nut shell.
Can you please explain the above in detail, it's a bit cryptic.
And, dying to know how did your Wife figure a speedlimiter out.
Cheers
a buggered drive train, axle, buggered diff would come up with an on vehicle wheel balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robo
Ok full story
when I purchase Pat/Mav 3.3 yrs back it had 15" sunyraiser rims and tyres that still had 40 thou k left on em.
The car drove perfectly with these 15" on, and good to the end of 15" life..
Rego came up last May and I had 16" std size put on as it a hwy cruiser only.
These were 2nd hand I had from last car.
Rolling dia little larger, nothing bad enough to worry about.
I had purchased them together new and balance seperatly rim/tyre to obtain better bal.
In less than 5 thou k wobble started up.
Remembering 15's lasted 2 yrs and around 40 thou k, with no problems.
Everything was replaced as it the Wife's car.
In steps as below
1) Tightened wheel bearings. slightly better,no.
rotated tyres.no.
2) replaced all tie rod ends. align, better but no.
2.5) replaced tyres, Yoke's AT's. bal align.
good again for approx 3-5thou k.
3) replaced panard bushes. bal, align. temp fix, came back.
rear still looked ok, left alone.
4) front panard, align, temp fix. no.
5) replaced all bushes with rubber f&r. align, temp fix, again flogged front panard out again.
6) replaced " all " front bearings and seals and panard again .bal, align.
wobble gone, now a shake, un-settled front end. no.
7) replaced front caster again, poly this time , bit better. still unsettled.
8) Replaced rims and tyres on advice from ex dealer nissan mech.
Fixed to date 3 mths now, will see how it goes.
cheers
Sounds like the same thing that we have ... shaking from side to side in the steering wheel only ... not felt in the rest of the car.
its only between 75 and 85 kph on ours ... above and below are perfectly fine.
Ours only started when we got the wheel balance/alignment done ... we think it was uneven wear on the tyres, and now they are been balanced the uneven wear is causing the vibration.
We are planning to replace the tyres in the next 6 months or so, so will keep you all posted.