Selling a car without RWC what are my obligations?

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Originally Posted by AB

For interstate vehicles the previous owner is refunded $$$ for the rego left as well.

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Depends on which state. As a Victorian I have bought two interstate vehicles, one from Queensland & one from the NT. The NT rego was refunded to me when I changed to Vic Rego, but the queensland rego could only be refunded to the previous owner who had originally paid it.

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Originally Posted by Winnie

If you have signed and dated transfer forms then it wouldn't be a problem at all. What I should have done though is take my copy of those forms to Vic roads straight away

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I would even go one step further and put the transaction time on the paper receipt as well.

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Originally Posted by Cuppa

but the queensland rego could only be refunded to the previous owner who had originally paid it.

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Is it the same in Victoria?

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Originally Posted by the evil twin

So what?
Every car every parted out has a the 'last registered owner' on file.
There is a monumental legal difference between being the 'registered owner' who tried to sell a Car illegally and 'last registered owner'.

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My point being, even if the registration is cancelled, as far as the police concerns you still are the owner of the car.
Like the scenario I mentioned above, the guy who bought the car from you(no RWC, no rego) can drive it down the road to rob a place at gun point, and then run away. When the cops find the car, they come to you to question.
Of course you can produce the "bill of sale" and explain it to them that you couldn't have been the robber.
But, they can still suspect you and give you hard time.

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Originally Posted by Cuppa

A number of years ago I drove our bus up to Melbourne & camped the night outside a factory ready to get a 6 metre awning fitted the following morning. Unknown to me, whilst I slept, some scumbag stole my rego plates. I managed to drive home to Gippsland none the wiser & parked the bus in the shed. First I knew of the plates having been stolen was when I received an infringement notice for parking somewhere I had never been. It was then I realised the plates were missing. I jumped through all the hoops & eventually after 2 or 3 months of letters back & forth the case was dropped. What really peed me off was that I was never told ‘found innocent’, only that I had been let off with a warning!

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Same thing happened to me twice. First time it was used for driving on citilink, but who knows what else they might have done with it. I had to go to the local police station and file a report. I didn't hear anything about it after that. The second time, I didn't get any fines, but I still had to report it to the police like the first time.

Now, I use tamper proof bolts to fit the number plates. They are not as easy to undo.

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Originally Posted by dom14

I would even go one step further and put the transaction time on the paper receipt as well.

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Plus 2 copies, both signed by both parties, one copy each.

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Originally Posted by dom14

Is it the same in Victoria?

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Good question, I *think* that if the car is purchased legally with rego by someone from another state, they have purchased the balance of the rego, & can claim it back from VicRoads when they re-register it in their state, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
I've only sold interstate twice & both times I sold without rego. One was a motorcycle with expired rego I freighted to the buyer (Nisshead), & the other the bus which I drove to NSW, removed the plates on arrival & got the balance refunded from VicRoads.

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Originally Posted by dom14

My point being, even if the registration is cancelled, as far as the police concerns you still are the owner of the car.
Like the scenario I mentioned above, the guy who bought the car from you(no RWC, no rego) can drive it down the road to rob a place at gun point, and then run away. When the cops find the car, they come to you to question.
Of course you can produce the "bill of sale" and explain it to them that you couldn't have been the robber.
But, they can still suspect you and give you hard time.

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Absolutely none of which has anything to do with a RWC when selling a registered car displaying plates...

In a sale to a Dealer...
Is it the seller or dealer obligated to obtain a RWC when selling a registered vehicle? Dealer!
Is the Dealer obligated to obtain a RWC when selling that vehicle on? Yes!

In a sale to a private buyer (other than those exempted under the Act)...
Is it the seller or buyer obligated to provide a RWC when selling a registered vehicle? Seller!
Is it the seller or buyer obligated to returning the plates if selling unregistered? Seller!

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Originally Posted by the evil twin

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Is it the seller or buyer obligated to provide a RWC when selling a registered vehicle? Seller!

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Is that a legal obligation?

Don't some sellers sell registered cars without RWC, while keeping the number plates with him until the buyer comes back with
the RWC(or vicroads transfer receipt) to get his plates back?

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Originally Posted by Cuppa

Plus 2 copies, both signed by both parties, one copy each.





Good question, I *think* that if the car is purchased legally with rego by someone from another state, they have purchased the balance of the rego, & can claim it back from VicRoads when they re-register it in their state, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
I've only sold interstate twice & both times I sold without rego. One was a motorcycle with expired rego I freighted to the buyer (Nisshead), & the other the bus which I drove to NSW, removed the plates on arrival & got the balance refunded from VicRoads.

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I bought a car from Vic last year and when I transferred the rego I got payed the remaining balance. Yay!.

(also, I bought it with no rwc.)

>>>tappin from tassie

Back in 1982 I sold my VW to a guy I worked with in Melbourne (I was moving back to Perth), he said he would get RWC & paid me accordingly, he on sold it without transferring into his name, I received several parking infringements but was all cleared up with a stat. dec, advising when I sold it and who I sold it to.
Graham