Good point John.
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Good point John.
My son updated his iphone and could not recieve calls for a day until another update.
I have not and will not update phone or ipad until everything is definitely ok, don't believe in beta testing for Apple.
Some thoughts this thread has sparked off for me.
I’ve been an Mac user since I tossed out my 486 desktop (with 40Mb HDD & Windows 98). I can’t imagine going back to Windows but have become increasingly disappointed with the direction Apple seems to be taking, especially since Steve Jobs died.
Since tossing that 486 I have had just 3 computers, a Powerbook, & two Macbook Pro’s. The Powerbook died at 7 years old. The current Macbook is an absolute beauty (Retina screen & SSD HD + 16Gb memory & 2.3Ghz i7) love it ..... Full boot up takes under 15 seconds. The old Macbook (2007 model) is still going strong after Apple replaced the main logic board 3 years ago (for free! I was in the UK at the time. “Bad news is that it’s a £600 repair but as it’s a recognised problem sir, no charge” - pretty impressive for a machine well out of warranty) my wife continues to use it daily. Each one has cost about the same as the previous one. The 2007 one is running the latest OS without a struggle. Pretty good for a 7 year old computer.
The iPad has been a good bit of gear, although if I had to choose, I’d pick the laptop every time. Apps that can only do part of the job that their laptop versions manage give me the sh*ts. I can’t be bothered with cut down ‘mobile’ versions.
I only bought my first ‘smartphone’ earlier this year. No way could I justify the cost of an iPhone. The interconnectedness with other Apple products would have been nice, but not necessary. Actually one of my major gripes about Apple’s marketing model is them not making their products so that they can easily interact with products of other manufacturers. My phone is an Android (Telstra Dave) & I reckon that sharing things like calendar & contacts should be far easier than it is. The phone itself I’m quite happy with, but I don’t use much of the Google stuff, don’t like the way they want to take over my phone.
Cuppa , it's not difficult at all to share contacts and calender on and android phone......... "but I don’t use much of the Google stuff, don’t like the way they want to take over my phone." - what makes you think google are trying to take over your phone?
Wife has an Android phone & signed up for some google something or other & seems to get heaps of google updates on a very regular basis, which install themselves on her phone when they choose (i.e. often using next g, rather than allowing her to do it at home via wifi). She also gets ads & suggestions for software downloads which suggest that her activity is monitored. I consider that to be intrusive. Don’t get it on my phone.
I realise that I can share stuff between Android & Mac if I use Googles services, but I have to sign into Google & then I start getting all that persistent Google Circles stuff etc. I did transfer my contacts to the phone when I got it, but for that to continue automatically I have to remain signed into Google & put up with stuff I’m not interested in. Choosing to sign in, transfer a new contact & sign out again is more bother than just entering a new contact on the phone manually.
Haven’t sussed out how to share calendars, but suspect it would also require me to remain permanently signed into Google.
I know that Apple & others monitor their users’ activity too, but it doesn’t seem to be as intrusive as Google.
that's odd Cuppa because any updates to apps I've downloaded and I make sure they update when I'm on wi-fi only, you can turn adjust this in the phone settings........ and not once have I got any ads or anything from google circles......... as with any device or software, make sure you read all the stuff before downloading and installing but you know this already........... Google is no more intrusive than Apple or Microsoft
Weellll, ok, gotta admit that I’m a bit lazy when it comes to learning a new to me (Android) OS. Wife probably just said yes to something she didn’t understand. I guess if I really HAD to set up realtime sharing I’d take the time to do so. I suppose it is just possible I’m blaming Google for my laziness....... but I do still have the impression that you have to tell them NOT to do something, rather than what I’m more used to with Apple where the default is needing to tell them TO do something.
Why, when I’ve never even looked at Google Circles do I continue to get annoying & regular (at least weekly) emails telling me that so & so wants to add me to their circle, even though these people tell me that it is not them sending them. Seems to be automated & no way to stop it without first joining up with & signing into Google Circles! (If indeed it’s possible at all). Catch 22.
Another thing is that so many of the Android apps want access to all sorts of stuff which is in no way related to the function of the app. Admittedly I tend to go for free apps, but inevitably the ones I choose are those that require minimal or no access to my personal info. A compass app (for example) which wants access to my contacts is just plain rude. I know that that is not Google, but it’s a system which facilitates 3rd parties who I know nothing of gaining access to my info.
Google wants to take over your phone cuppa?
Does the word iTunes mean anything? Lol you have to sell your soul to Crapple to get the Damn things to work lol.
Four guys at my work have left apple and got a sony xperia z1 after seeing mine this year. I should be working on commission!
I had an old htc, my wife just upgraded her iphone so i got her old iphone 5. My old htc was so much better.