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For the purpose of debate and not necessarily my views or opinions.
Is the Japanese whaling ok because they eat it?
Is the farming of cattle for leather products like a jacket or seats ok, as these items are much like a head on the wall not necessary but some people may consider them nice?
Are the animals in these "canned hunts" farmed or captured wild animals?
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Originally Posted by Family4x4Fun
From media reports the Japs don't eat whale meat as a population, we are told of stockpiles in freezers and recently some was sold to the US as pet food FFS.
But it is tradition in their traditional diesel powered pursuit boats and traditional factory ships in their traditional hunting grounds. What a lot of crap.
If they did hunt in their own waters the way it was done before the industrial revolution I could accept that, the arrogance of what they do now pisses me.
I had mates who were members of Project Jonah in NZ when I dived in the 70's, we wore silver whale tails round our necks to show our support.
Guess I've been a bit passionate about the Whales (and Dolphin's) for a long time.
Isn't leather a by product of the meat industry?
I am aware of specific breeds are raised for their skins principally. Roll Royce leather is one I think.
Crocodiles and snakes for their leather products too I guess.
I suppose we get all wound up if the animal is a protected or rare species and public perception about how cute or amazing an animal might be.
From what we were told the "canned" animals were both farmed and captured, some places had "traps" where an animal could get through / over a fence but not return.
You raise some difficult but valid points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Family4x4Fun
Somewhere in the mix is the issue of killing for fun vs killing for necessity.
My view is that killing whales is not a necessity.
Killing ‘canned’ African big game is for ‘fun’ only.
Farming cattle or other stock for food is a debatable practice & certainly some would suggest that we either eat too much meat or have no need to eat meat at all. However the farming of species like cattle for human consumption is a long established & widely accepted practice. Man has always eaten meat, but part of the debate centres around how much meat has historically been part of human protein intake
Adding more species to the list of farm animals is not really needed. If farm animals are to be killed then we should make full use of the so called ‘by products like leather. I cannot see a reasonable comparison between a useful material I wear to a dead head hung on a wall. Others presumably see things differently.
In part I struggle with the notion that killing anything can reasonably be seen as a ’sport’ regardless of whether it is ‘canned' or not. I’m sure this will be a contentious statement for some who are here, but that is MY view. Stalking can be a sport. Killing is not.
sport
noun.
- an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
kill the sick if the monies go into research.
Whaling because of their slow reproduction rate might have something to do with it
Shark fin grinds my gears
I use a lot of by product in my hobby of knife making , Buffalo horn, camel bone,
cow bone as well.
But to kill a lion or tiger just to hang it on the wall that went out in the 1920s with the big game hunters
Has anyone found the Dallas cheerleader Utube yet, she claims by killing the big 5 she is preserving the species Go figure
A Dallas cheerleader in a movie I haven't seen in many years!!! :) somehow, I think we are not talking the same vid... :)
nah her name is not Debra, but she goes shooting with that Pallin chick .
they hunt critters together quite often.
From memory Debra did nothing wrong it was her friends lol
was only on VHS I think not DVD lol
It's our given right as human beings and therefore masters of all land and sea, to kill whatever we like for whatever reason we choose.
and what about the big stink when they culled the koala on kangaroo island
because they were dieing from lack of food and eating out all the tree leaves that is their food
Probably our best koalas living there. The qld ones are having a lot of grief with dogs and disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by my third 256
Join the army, only prob someone may shoot back!!