MudRunnerTD's GQ From the Ground Up

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31st August 2013, 09:11 PM
NissanGQ4.2

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Originally Posted by lhurley

Where did you find the episode?? I wouldnt mind watching it

http://www.c31.org.au/schedule/view/episode/96821

The Tower Brace segmentn starts around the 4.34min mark
31st August 2013, 09:20 PM
AB

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

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I can see this photo being used more times than rosscos swimsuit pic...lol
31st August 2013, 09:56 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by AB

I can see this photo being used more times than rosscos swimsuit pic...lol

Motley Crew
31st August 2013, 10:15 PM
BigRAWesty

So it does exist... :p
31st August 2013, 10:17 PM
Bloodyaussie

Meh........ I dont know what all the hipe was???
1st September 2013, 12:02 AM
mudnut

I'd love to see your Q in action, MR.
2nd October 2013, 02:26 PM
protege146

Mudrunner...one word for your car...AWESOME!!!!
2nd October 2013, 02:56 PM
MEGOMONSTER

And big too
2nd October 2013, 03:28 PM
Ben-e-boy

But it dosn't have long arms :P
2nd October 2013, 03:32 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

But it dosn't have long arms :P

Yeah but does it need them???? ;)

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2nd October 2013, 03:57 PM
nissannewby

Yes. It's so much better to drive not just off road but on road too. They help when climbing, they lessen the rear steer effect quite a bit, increase stability and also allow for more flex.
2nd October 2013, 07:08 PM
Ben-e-boy

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Yeah but does it need them???? ;)

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The front does move well. Thats how good superiors springs are.

But in reality it has been a few pages since I mentioned long arms, so Iam just doing my bit for your build thread. Lol
2nd October 2013, 08:12 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

The front does move well. Thats how good superiors springs are.

But in reality it has been a few pages since I mentioned long arms, so Iam just doing my bit for your build thread. Lol

Yeah I took it in that spirit too mate lol. I just wanted to post the flex shot again ;)
2nd October 2013, 08:16 PM
Ben-e-boy

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

Yeah I took it in that spirit too mate lol. I just wanted to post the flex shot again ;)

I put my hybrid arms in today, I'll see how they go tomorrow
2nd October 2013, 08:53 PM
BigRAWesty

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

I put my hybrid arms in today, I'll see how they go tomorrow

Hybrids?? Tell me more..:D
2nd October 2013, 09:45 PM
lhurley

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Originally Posted by Westy's Accessories

Hybrids?? Tell me more..:D

I just spent like 45 mins on the superior site reading up on them. They seem pretty awesome. Very good idea indeed.

link:
http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...ducts_id=20308
2nd October 2013, 09:50 PM
MudRunnerTD

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhurley

I just spent like 45 mins on the superior site reading up on them. They seem pretty awesome. Very good idea indeed.

link:
http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...ducts_id=20308

Yes the rear bushed joint is a winner for sure. That is straight from an 80 series front end design! On of the few things Toyota got right!!! Shhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone I said that! ;)

The Hybrid looks to be a combo between their Drop arms and the rear joint /drop box design. Looks good Bene! Will be giving them a good look at in October for sure mate
2nd October 2013, 11:58 PM
BigRAWesty

Ow ok.. Interesting.. I would have thought the Patrol pin setup would flex more than the opposing pin and Bush.
The patrols arms rotate easier, sure droop is not as good. The toyo setup would droop nice, but would struggle crossing up..
To me flex is the ability to cross axles, not straight drop..
3rd October 2013, 12:56 AM
nissannewby

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Originally Posted by Westy's Accessories

Ow ok.. Interesting.. I would have thought the Patrol pin setup would flex more than the opposing pin and Bush.
The patrols arms rotate easier, sure droop is not as good. The toyo setup would droop nice, but would struggle crossing up..
To me flex is the ability to cross axles, not straight drop..

They are 100mm longer than a standard drop arm and the rear bush change is to promote better bush life, as when your flex the pin type a lot the bushes flog really quick. The length helps with stability again and also flex while the 80's bush will give good bush life ;).
3rd October 2013, 01:05 AM
nissannewby

Also good flex isn't just about one side tucking hard and other dropped to its limits but good flex will allow the vehicle to stay level while the suspension goes through its travel. You want the suspension to do the work anytime your chassis angles over you have reached maximum flex and you have no suspension left.
3rd October 2013, 01:11 AM
megatexture

So 100mm longer do you need to extend the front driveshaft or is this distance gain at the chassis end.
3rd October 2013, 01:38 AM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by megatexture

So 100mm longer do you need to extend the front driveshaft or is this distance gain at the chassis end.

yes it is at the chassis end Mega.

If you have a look at this pic and note that the top mount is in line with the factory mount (in fact it connects to this position for strength) and the bottom mount is set 100mm back.

http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...s_pair_wat.jpg

and here is a standard Superior Drop Box. the top mount is consistent between the two pics

http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...0in)%20wat.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum.../2013/10/8.jpg
3rd October 2013, 09:59 AM
megatexture

Isnt that last pic standard arms with a drop box
3rd October 2013, 10:30 AM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by megatexture

Isnt that last pic standard arms with a drop box

yes. It was the best pic i could find showing the standard drop box location position for the rear joint of the radius arm. you can see that a standard drop box just drops the pivot only inline with the factory setup. the Hybrid that Bene has sorted pushes that back 100mm below the gearbox support.
3rd October 2013, 10:34 AM
BigRAWesty

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Also good flex isn't just about one side tucking hard and other dropped to its limits but good flex will allow the vehicle to stay level while the suspension goes through its travel. You want the suspension to do the work anytime your chassis angles over you have reached maximum flex and you have no suspension left.

Couldn't agree more. Just in my eyes the patrol setup is like a pin in a sleeve, the arm will rotate all day long allowing good axle rotation.
I do agree anything more than 2" lift and the bushes are out of there range, but that's when drop boxes come into play.
As for the toyo setup, the arms will swing up and down all day, but as soon as the arm tries to rotate its very limited buy the Bush and pin.
It's like putting a bolt threw that pin and sleeve, that pin is only going to rotate as much as the slop (the Bush) allows.
I'm sure I'm wrong, but in my eyes the Nissan pin setup with drop box is a better setup.
3rd October 2013, 11:18 AM
megatexture

Ahh ok yep
3rd October 2013, 01:08 PM
liftlid

I don't see this mod giving MR an increase in performance over what he has now.
3rd October 2013, 01:38 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by liftlid

I don't see this mod giving MR an increase in performance over what he has now.

Yeah I am not in a hurry to change much now I don't thnk. Keen to see Bene's long arms in the rear though. newby's definition above is spot on and the flex pic of my car on the previous page shows a car sitting nice and flat and level and fully crossed up! I like it. In the car I really had no idea that it had crossed up so much until I got out of the car to take a look. I smiled ;)
3rd October 2013, 01:44 PM
MudRunnerTD

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3rd October 2013, 06:03 PM
BigRAWesty

Your just as bad as that bloke and his pics of the things we sit in... :D
5th October 2013, 06:14 PM
4WD DUDE

That's one beast of a GQ you have mate ;)
6th October 2013, 11:58 PM
Warwick89

One hell of a truck mate
11th October 2013, 07:47 PM
amro74

((35" Spring spacers)) can you recommend the best brand
9th December 2013, 04:33 PM
Lights

Is this still around or has it been parted out?
9th December 2013, 04:58 PM
liftlid

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Originally Posted by Lights

Is this still around or has it been parted out?

Oh that's cruel!!!!!!!
9th December 2013, 05:36 PM
MudRunnerTD

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Originally Posted by liftlid

Oh that's cruel!!!!!!!

he is a Nasty man!

Dont listen to him, he will lead you a stray!
9th December 2013, 05:39 PM
liftlid

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Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD

he is a Nasty man!

Dont listen to him, he will lead you a stray!

He also seems to be afraid to put the Tojo up against the nissans!!!
9th December 2013, 05:41 PM
Bloodyaussie

I think that's why he drives a lot at night so know one will see him with busted CV's being towed by a Nissan!!!
9th December 2013, 07:28 PM
Lights

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Originally Posted by liftlid

He also seems to be afraid to put the Tojo up against the nissans!!!

Gary, the last time I did that I was the only 4by left running by the end of the weekend! I knew I should have left that Nissan at the bottom of the hill :)
9th December 2013, 07:33 PM
taslucas

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Originally Posted by Lights

Gary, the last time I did that I was the only 4by left running by the end of the weekend! I knew I should have left that Nissan at the bottom of the hill :)

so there were a lot of chicken tracks in that area?

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