Where, where ! ........ :eek: (ha-ha)Quote:
Originally Posted by megatexture
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Where, where ! ........ :eek: (ha-ha)Quote:
Originally Posted by megatexture
It's parked in my shed :p
I cant believe you have handled this so well mate. I worked in the smash repair industry for 15 years as a spray painter. I've never seen such dodgy work in my life. Even an apprentice knows when your painting a metallic or pearl you have to have paint all panels fitted to the car. Now with 3 layer pearls and special effects such as cyrillic, Harlequins etc when touching up it usually requires respraying the whole side not trying to blend it half way up the side of the car. This is borderline on total stupidity and total laziness.
As for the sealer not being put in prior to painting that should have been done the very next day after priming and I didn't know doing a straight line and coping the factory stone guard was that hard. As for putting pearl in the clear coat that is something you would hear a backyarder do. There is no car on the market today or ever that has the pearl in the clear. They are all done as 3 layer pearls where a base is put down followed by the pearl in a binder followed by the clear coat. Over a period of time when polishing the car the pearl can tear out leaving tiny pinholes. It's not a pretty look and I hope these idiots atleast put one cost of clear over i without pearl in it.
I really have my doubts whether there was even a tradesman painter working in that shop. I sorry to hear you had to go though this crap and fortunately you would be lucky to find another shop that bad.
There are still heaps of dodgy shops out there but there couldn't be to many that bad surly.
Good luck with it all mate and I hope it all works out for you.
Cheers Mick.
Thanks Mick, very much appreciate your comments !
Yeh look, i can tell you its not all how i planned it to go, and id be lying if i said it has not caused me some stress, but, i realise life could be so much worse, and for some people it really is, so onward with happy face i shall go ! :biggrin:
It was hard for me to see what was happenig to the car, im not a painter/panel beater, but i found myself getting confused at the backward way things got done, as they are the "pro's" i felt i could not tell them how to do stuff (i tryed by asking questions about methods), at the end of the day, im just glad i did the major repair work myself, so at least i know thats right.
I recently found they had also bogged over one of the holes for the roof/barn door seal, id missed this in my check, and i was lucky to find it at this stage.
My bro in law is going to do a full respray for me (colour and effect), he is a ex pro painter and painted my torrie for me about 10 years ago, and has much pride in his work, he knows im quite fussy and will do things exactly as i want without talking me out of harder stuff.
We are pretty much going "all out" with the paint this time, im having "what i want", not what i can afford, not whats easy, nor probly whats practical, but i figure the friggin paint will owe me so much $$, i now want it to look obvious, and like its been worth it !
:bananarock:
BTW, the dash is all back in and looks great, i started the car, and to my relief, no fault lights, and ALL the switches and everything i had apart, now work perfect (some smoother than when i bought the car)
Wow mate great write up and its great that no one was hurt.
Plus it looks like you really know your car inside and out now :)
A simply amazing effort mate. You're going to end up with an incredible new truck and a wealth of knowledge gained from the experience.
I think thaats the best way to go. Just rub it all down and start again. At least it should only need a good wet rub and paint but I think it will look heaps better when it's all one colour again. I'd also ask your brother in-law to spray it in a ceramic based clear. They are heaps harder to scratch and doesn't pin stripe like normal paints. I resprayed my patrol in it at the beginning of the year and after a good wash it still looks like new.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04OFF
I worked for a Lexus repairer for about 15 years so we never cut corners on anything but it wasn't unusual for insurance companies to send us rectification jobs from other panel shops. We had one which was a Lexus that had been resprayed by another shop 3 times because the woman wasn't happy with it. She wanted a new car and the insurance company wouldn't do it. In all honesty she was going over board with what she was picking. She was using a magnifying glass to pick defects in the paint. The insurance assessor who had been dealing with her quit his job, PPG told her she was an idiot and wiped there hands of it. The panel shop even offered to buy her a new Lexus but at this stage she said no thats what I wanted and you wouldn't give me one so now you can get this car like new.
So the insurance company approached us and asked us would we fix it. My boss said yes but only on the terms that it's a do and charge and no agruments or cutting corners. This car needed a full paint strip inside and out of all door opening. Even the sealers around the bonnet and boot had to be removed and the enginebay had to be resprayed. I was close to telling my boss to stick his job and do it himself as this woman was just a trouble making bitch.
Once I had finished the paint job which took me close to 10 weeks as no one else was allowed to touch it. She had an inspector from the insurance company and PPG come and check over all the paint work. They passed it and said it looks good. Then she flew a paint inspector in from Melbourne to mark each panel out of 100 and I had to get 95 or higher for each panel for her to accept the car.
Luckily I passed all the stupid tests. When she eventually come in to pick up the car she didn't even look at it she gave my boss a cuddle and a kiss and thanked him for all his help and told him no one else will ever touch her car again or her other Lexus and BMW.lol
So if you think your fussy your got nothing on this woman.:biggrin:
Cheers Mick.
Wow, that lady sounds like a bit of a cow, offered a "new" car and thats not good enough :jawdrop:
All im really after is a job as good as the paint finish from factory, and as you will know thats no show car paint job, all the same colour will be a start, plus im very happy with a bit of orange peel ,after all, if its a super flat finish ,i know ill have to spend another 100 hours on the panels !
I was/am interested in the ceramic clear (ill bring this up with my bro-in-law), i would be interested in any info you had about brands and methods please Mick.
We plan on painting the car base white (ive owned a car in this colour before and love how super bright it is), then over the top HOK white ice pearl (glass flake), then clear, obvoiusly a process like this ,requires sanding back multiple coats/layers of clear to hide the peaks of the flake.
And hope should look something along the lines of below....... this is GM base white, then 4 oz = 2 mist coats of white ice, clear, this car has a vinyl roof, so im working on getting 6 oz for the troll and hope to have a bit left over ?
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3.../whiteice1.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3.../whiteice2.jpg
Im guessing you can just add the ceramic clear over the top of "normal" clear, so you are not trying to sand the ceramic stuff ?
wow im speachless
With paint brands you would be best off with sticking with something your brother in law feels comfortable with as every brand is so different to use especially when doing custom stuff. Personally I've always liked Sikins even when I was a technical paint rep for a company selling Glasurit. lol
As you said above you would clear it with a standard clear first and rub that down and use the Ceramic clear last when you do your flow coat. Ceramic clear has very low film build so it will have minimum orange peel too.
Your using a spray booth to do this to aren't you? If not I wouldn't be real contfortable doing a 3 layer let alone using ceramic clear as you only have 12 to 24 hours to denib the job and after that you cant buff the scratches out. Without a spray booth and a large 4wd there would be to many bit of crap in the paint to remove in the small time frame.
Cheers Mick.