Attachment 72929 torque converter engineering ringwood
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Attachment 72929 torque converter engineering ringwood
Attachment 72930 torque converter bf xr6 turbo/nissan patrol
Attachment 72931 600x300x76 pro flow intercooler
Attachment 72932 slicks are here
Probably should say this engine conversion is complete now.
And i absolutely love it!
How did you get on with 'engineering certification'? Did you end up going that path - who did you use and any major obstacles struck?
Hi Pee bee,
Glad to say the vehicle has been engineered (finally)
The engineer wasnt happy with the way the guys that did the conversion ran my pipework so i had to pay someone else 3k to redo it all again which i wasnt happy about.
Above all it is now running a base map tune of 10psi and 250rwkw on 35s.
I have been zipping around town with prodominantly stock tyres and find it bloody quick.
I remember one day i was on a "private road" and had a run with new golf r wolfzburg edition and he got me by half a car length...
I went home that night to find that they pull a 13.3 second 0-400 so i was thoroughly impressed concidering i am driving around a 3tonne 4wd.
I have to keep reminding myself that its not a sports car and that it is a 3 tonne truck as it blows my mind how quick it is.
Given i have changed all the pipework that was also restricting more power i have now contacted stix from quick bitz to retune it to 18-20psi on pump 98....
In the mean time i know it ran a 20.86 with the stock tb...
I now want to run it with 10psi...
Then run it with 18-20psi
Then when money permits next plan is to upgrade the turbo to 67mm wheels , install the hatec race dash and ecu and run a flex fuel system for track meets with e85...
Once i do that i shpuld be easily achieving 500rwkw.
I just wanna pull a 10 or 11second pass for shits n gigs and i will be happy.
After i achieve that i will be happy to just leave it on its normal street tune of 18-20psi on 98 and even 10psi like it is now for off road and i will be happy...
So over all i want to be able to choose between
10psi
20psi
E85 fullboost
Anyway heres some pics
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Stainless snorkel
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New 4" air intake
New custom airbox with 79series panel filter
New cooler pipework
So its been a while since inhave posted on here but just thought I would give you all a quick update.
The rig has been performing flawlessly around town on daddy duties , as a grocery getter, as a sleeper, and as an off road vehicle.
That was up until i decided to go to the high country a couple months back and i had to get the thing towed home.
It turned out to be a bad connection and wiring from ecu to the bf pedal and i had to get the thing rewired again because the way the original mob that did the conversion did it was kak.
Since then though its been running perfectly with no dramas.
So over all for those of you that arent aware, the purpose of this build was to build a tough af off roader that incould hit up some hardcore tracks by day, go home slap on the slicks and go mix it up with the boys on the strip by night.
I mean, why not right? They are known as being one of the greatest 4wds off road and these days are also known as the go to 4wd if you are wanting to run big hp in them.
Just look at our amazing brothers over in dubai and you will evidently see what they are doing with these rigs.
So given that was my goal, i have been happy with where we are but now its time to go for some serious hp.
Recently i have been doing my head in with who to tune the rig. You speak to one mob and they sound wonderful, you speak to another then they sound better. Over all i have managed to speak to 4 different joint (yes i have done extensive research) as barras are a well known engine so theres many people available for tuning them who know them well.
In the end i have opted to take it to Independent motorsports in Morwell, who are currently home to the worlds fastest ford territory with 1000hp and 9 second quarter mile...
I have been doing my head in trying to figure out what i am going to do tune wise as there are so many options.
Go pump 98 as hard as we can till we hit the limit and be ok but not that fast.
Spend a shit load on 2200cc injector, new 2x fuel pumps, flex fuel system, surge tank, and tune for e85?
Problem with doing the above to options leaves me unhappy with either of them. The pump 98 is never gunna be enough to make me happy and the e85 though expensive and awesome just isnt practical enough when i own a 4wd that visits the high country and goes touring etc. With e85 being up to 35 % more thirsty than pump 98 i was stuck at a cross road until now...
Enter Water to Methanol Injection. Damn, after doing some serious research all i was left with was where have you been all my life ???
The beauty of water methanol injection is that its 50/50 ratio which is stored in its own resevoir on board in your vehicle and it is squirted (direct port entry) to each cylinder along with an extra injector after the cooler on the manifold.
The idea of meth injection is to creat lower intake temps which then allows the engine to be wound up more thus endingnup with more power.
What i find absolutey extroadinary with this is i am still able to run 98 with heaps better economy, my current 1000cc injectors and also my curent walbro 460 in tank pump.
We are also in the process of getting a new turbo built by the boys at procharge in sunbury but can not spill the beans too much with sizes yet.
The set up i am currently going has ran a 9.30et at calder with around 600rwkw on an xr6 turbo
Given the engine is in a big gu and has to go through my driveline and the built re4 i will be lucky to see 500rwkw but either way this is more than enough for me to be happy with it as its peak performance.
The entire process will be getting documented by the a4s media boys for there youtube channel so soon enough you will most probably see it on line.
Eventually when its done i will slap on the slicks and head to calder.
Looking forward to the next couple months
Been a bit slack with the updates on the build lately but at the moment we are full steam ahead.
We took the existing turbo off the car and had procharge turbochargers in sunbury build the new turbo for us.
The new Procharge 67mm turbo has been known to run up to mid 600rwkw on some set ups as of late so to find a turbo that sits on the original ford manifold that produces that much power with very little effects of big lag is astonishing.*
The procharge 67 is litreally based off the factory garret but they have an ar70 housing thats been macined both front and rear housings to fit the 67mm wheels on fromt and back...
Here are some photos of it
Attachment 78383
Procharge 67mm turbo
Next up in order to do all this both manifolds were stripped off the car and had to buy a 10mm spacer for the turbo not to foul up against the exhaust manifold as the turbo is obviously bigger than factory.
With this spacer it allows us to place the turbo in its exact same location but lifts it up slightly as it was just touching the manifold.
The cold side inlet plenum/manifold has also been removed so i can drill into it for the direct port water to methanol injection system.
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Attachment 78385
Dummy up of manifold to see where injectors will go
So with the turbo sitting back with the car and getting ready for re installation i had taken the manifold home last night so i can drill out the manifold for the direct port injection system.
Once the kids and wife were in bed and my daddy duties were over i jumped into the man cave , slapped on the tunes, grabbed a beer (or two) and began.
Drilling inti the intake manifold isnt something i felt conpletely comfortable with unless i had asked the 100's of questions that i had in my mind answered.*
We found that there was a flat circle section on the manifold that was there for casting purposes from factory which seemed to be the perfect place for them...
I marked out all the spots and pre-drilled then with a pilot hold first then worked my way up to the 8.5.. drill bit that we needed to use for the correct fitment of the injector adapters.
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Attachment 78387
Manifold preping
After this was done i carefully began to insert the tap into the holes using most probably more cutting compound than i needed to as paranoia starts to creep in.
I found that this was the most intricate part of the process as i had to ensure i was not going in on any funny angles and had to also ensure the 1/8 npt tap was being turned with the same amount of firmness each time i went further in whilst it was tapping out the holes... (if you're ever going to do this into aluminum i found that its much easier than steel but the second you feel more resistance than normal just give it a bit more of a spray with the cutting compound and it will continue to turn easier).
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Manifold tapping
After this was done i cleaned out the shards of aluminium and then began to install the injector adapters. The aquamist water to methanol injection system comes with the brass inserts that you install into the manifold which have an internal thread for the injectors to be fixed to, or if you ever need to , they also provide brass plugs which we have to install for now as the rest of the system has not been installed yet.
I've just dry fitted the adapter plugs into the manifold for now to see how they sat and if there was any resistance but from what i got told from Orlando from Cool Runnings Engineering (the authorised seller of Aquamist in Australia) is that they are to be done hand tight with loctite and no excessive force.
I found that this wont be the case for me as finger tight only got me on a couple threads so i had to touch base with him and send him pics to show where they were sitting and then was advised to nip them up a touch with a 13mm spanner but dont go ape sh*t with it.*
I have to say i really do love buying products from a company who provide you with phenomenal after sales service.*
To put things into perspective for you guys this bloke has gone above and beyond with answerring any questions i may have, late night phone calls, early morning questions and his services have superceded any of my expectations.
Here are some pics of the injector adapters being dry fitted into the manifold.
This morning i will loctite them in.
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Manifold injector adapter install
Keep it coming mate. Interesting to follow.
Thanks TJQuote:
Originally Posted by 0-TJ-0
Been long process ,
The its all being put back together next week then I'll be towing it to the tune shop!
Starting to get a little bit excited now.
Interested to really see how the water meth set up works out for me!
Ive checked a few forums and struggle tonfind good info for water meth set ups so hoping to elaborate on it as much as possible!
The waiting game....
Thought i woukd make an update of where i currently am with the rig.
I seem to post a lot more on instagram these dsys picture wise but in regards to info you guys pretty much get all the inside goss amd planning prior to it getting onto the gram as i try to keep this thread more detailed as part of the build process.
CHASSING THE ILLUSIVE 500+RWK MARK.
This has been a bit of a battle. The last tune attempt left me somewhat dissatisfied due to the cooler and exhaust being the limiting factors of the hp we were trying to achieve. As mentioned previously we found the coolers limits of 470rwhp (350rwkw) mark so we wound it back so it was running safe to 420rwhp and left it there till we thought out the next process...
I have currently purchased the new 600x300x100mm cooler from plazmaman and am waiting for delivery which i think is going to be this week.
I have been down to the exhaust shop had them look over the car and quated me on the new exhaust which i paid for up front prior to works being done because i know the bloke and i think it may be getting trailered there and back so that made life a bit easier.
With the new cooler and 4 inch exhaust it will then be ready for a retune so after that all gets done its fingers crossed. This is pretty much my final part as far as i want to go power wise with the rig. If i achieve the figure i want i will not push it further.
I have some serious plans coming up for the rig which i really cant give too much info away as of just yet. The purpose of the build will most probably be revealedin the not so distance future but i think it should all make sense eventually what im planning on doing with it...
The above was posted on another build thread i have on 4x4 earth but update is i currently have the new plazmaman 300x600x100 1450hp rated cooler.
We are installing it this weekend
Goes in for the 4 inch exhaust next week
Goes in for retune october 23rd...
I think im being a little too optimistic expecting 500rwkw on pump98 and an auto but fingers crossed
Ballistic awesome numbers BD mate!
Very keen to gauge your thoughts on Plazmaman W2A overall quality of their Aussie tradesman’s found efforts too[emoji106][emoji106]
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Great build. Is the truck still going to be shown by the a4s fellas? I'd love to see it.
Hey mate,Quote:
Originally Posted by 10G
Short answer is no.
I decided i did not want A4s to showcase the rig in the end for numerous reasons and am now giving it to my mate Damo (defender 90 orkney) on YouTube and instagram to do a feature with it.
A4s would of been great with definite maximum exposure but i just didnt really like what the page has become of late and kinda targets a particular audience that i didnt really wish for my rig to be exposed to.
Saying this, my episode with 4wdaction is coming up soon and so is the feature or rig run down on damos channel
Managed to get the cooler on over a few beers with a couple mates.
Its a good thing we got access to a factory and a forklift as taking the front bar off with heaps of space and a fork lift is godsent.
The only problem we ran into is because the new cooler is thicker, we are now struggling for room as the power steering amd tranny coolers mount dorectly in front of one side of the cooler.
Which means the warn hi mount fouls up against these coolers.
We've decided for now we leave the hi mount winch off and fit the bar but even the grill had to be cut.
To be honest i think it looks shit without the grill and the cooler exposed but it will have to stay like that until i figure out what to do with the bar...
Its either get a full custom bullbar or retrofit it into the current arb bar...
Anyway talk is boring here are some pics...
Vehicle goes in for new exhaust tomorrow which means they have a week to take out all the suspension, leave it on bump stops and figure out how and where to run a 4 inch exhaust system without it fouling anywhere.*
From there they send it off to the tune shop so they can re install the water to methanol injection system and retune it for that magic 500rwkw (700rwhp) i have been aiming for..
Technically speaking what ever it gets it gets. I cant expect it to produce more on pump 98 so that's hopefully the end of the road engine wise...
Ps on another note... my 4wd action episode drops on YouTube on thursday so if any of you wanted to out a face to the name that will be your opportunity to have a laugh at my expense
For those that are interested, here is the latest episode of 4wdaction that myself and the Barra Gu are in...
Enjoy!
For any thatbwish to see more of the rig you can also follow me on instagram @barra_gu
Cheers
https://youtu.be/g7mq-invrmU
8:25 “George has pinpoint accuracy” [emoji106][emoji106]
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Ahh yep gotcha
I gather one of them in the comments is you MB?
Yeah wished they showed more of it
Great Blokes!
Go for Gold Little Ollie Mate!!
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Nah, not me commenting on Youtubey sorry mate! Great day out it looks had by all though [emoji106][emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Daddy
EDIT: Will seriously consider signing up to Instagram for full Beast Barra pics tomorrow [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
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Yeah tbh i use this thread and my entire build thread on 4x4earth to document the entire build but the instagram account is alot of picture and video focussed so not a bad idea to jump on the bandwagon man!Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Weapon of a thing mate, well done!!
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