EFI to TD42 gift giving for BA.

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

Mark your block you've stripped did you mark where each part came from or did you just pull it down??

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Conrods are numbered. Pretty much everything else was just removed....

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

I will first start by saying chill out and just take a step back. This is not the place for any debate.

Mudski your correct about your block and Jono can easily use his turbo kit with it.

Machining is all cost dependant on how much is required but should not be more than $2000.

I think westy has been misunderstood and no suggestion here is a bad suggestion. He proposed Jono sell his turbo kit to aid with funds for getting this back on the road, sure its a backwards step performance wise but is certainly a way to ease the financial side of it. Again it is only a suggestion.

There should be no "should" or "should not" in this thread, just suggestions and info to arm Jono with all the tools he requires to make an inform decision. Regardless of his decision it will be the right one. There is more to this than just throwing another engine in it.

So lets way up the pros and cons then to help the man out.

Rebuild- Pros- The engine will be fresh and the condition now known, being new should give years of trouble free motoring.
Cons- Time and cost, obviously any machining that may be required will take time, cost will come from machining and parts

Secondhand motor- Pros- The quickest way to have the car running.
Cons- Another unknown, yes there is a 30 day warranty but who says it wont fail and how do we know the condition.

New motor- Pros- Also a quick option and also a warranty is given (either a reco or crate)
Cons- Again cost will be up there.

Keep the generosity, info and suggestions flowing. If Jono has any questions then he is allowed to ask. Sometimes just listening is a good thing.

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Mat check your pm's mate

Still the bottom end is still unknown and we're just assuming at this point and untill we can get it to rotate I'm assuming the worst untill we strip it down to check the condition of the crank which imo is the most imoortant part. 2k was the same rough cost I told jonathan last night and it will only go up.

Should add to the pros of the 2nd hand motor that you could get a genuine motor that might go for years and years trouble free aswell, its a gamble that's worth considering

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Originally Posted by mudski

Conrods are numbered. Pretty much everything else was just removed....

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Do you know exactly the position of each bearing cap like which way it faces ??

if you go down the 2nd hand motor road what motor would be preferred silver or black top.
I can check my sources for prices if you want?

Sorry for late reply but whatever way BA decides to go I'm in:

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum.../2014/12/4.gif

I am not sure if this helps but a wrecker in Brooklyn ( not sure if it's close) has a fair few td42 Utes he's wrecking if not put me in for $100. Let me know an account via pm and I'll send it on its way

I would appreciate any input as matty said.. if you have a contact that may help please l9ok into it.. as I said before I am struggling with trying to do everything including looking after a sick boy and taking him to work with me..

I do truly appreciate everyones help and will make up for it... just right now I am on my knees.

get off your knees BA no need for that. You're bigger than that

Jonathon
I am sorry that this has happened however I would advise you to involve your Wife in any decision that you make.
Your family must come first and you need her support in what you do.
Bob

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Originally Posted by threedogs

get off your knees BA no need for that. You're bigger than that

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It's all good he is finished now.... ;)

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Originally Posted by Bob

Jonathon
I am sorry that this has happened however I would advise you to involve your Wife in any decision that you make.
Your family must come first and you need her support in what you do.
Bob

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Yeah, why not tell her already? Your decision but at least now you can give updates that there is a whole community of support behind you. Gonna have to do it sometime. I know my wife would want to know.

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Originally Posted by cgm

Yeah, why not tell her already? Your decision but at least now you can give updates that there is a whole community of support behind you. Gonna have to do it sometime. I know my wife would want to know.

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I don't think he wants to ruin her time away with bad news mate.

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Originally Posted by Irish

I don't think he wants to ruin her time away with bad news mate.

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Yeah tell us all to 'piss off' on the personal stuff. Just ignore what you have to. But I do think it is natural to be worried about the whole situation and I think Bob and Boots and maybe others have highlighted that relationships are probably more important than engines.

Sorry if stepping over the line.

I do not need this right now... I have been with mags for 20 years and I know how best to deal with that situation. .

If I were to ring her now all miserable with the news that the engine has blown up and no idea of what my next move might be and no idea of costs and so on it would ruin her holiday..

As soon as I am armed with as much information and costs as possible I will tell her and move on from there but right now is not the moment.

My stress is high enough with out getting marital advice as well. ..
Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

I do not need this right now... I have been with mags for 20 years and I know how best to deal with that situation. .

If I were to ring her now all miserable with the news that the engine has blown up and no idea of what my next move might be and no idea of costs and so on it would ruin her holiday..

As soon as I am armed with as much information and costs as possible I will tell her and move on from there but right now is not the moment.

My stress is high enough with out getting marital advice as well. ..
Cheers.

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Just let me know when you need advice on how to care for your child mate.

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Originally Posted by Winnie

Just let me know when you need advice on how to care for your child mate.

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hahahah winnie, nice one mate

So John did you ask your contacts?

Ab never rang me back....

I am going top ring Readies now.

I'm going down there later this arvo, black top or silver top he has both as far as I know.

BA not sure of the situation but im good for $100 if its needed and to help out with labour even if its just cleaning parts for you

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Originally Posted by threedogs

I'm going down there later this arvo, black top or silver top he has both as far as I know.

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What ever John.. Price on short motors also as the head here is good?

Push hard John....

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Originally Posted by jonez911

BA not sure of the situation but im good for $100 if its needed and to help out with labour even if its just cleaning parts for you

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You should never offer to clean BA's parts, he just might take you up on it(picture the opening scene from Coming to America)

These are not total figures and complete info but here is what I have so far..

Newby rang with a price on high end reco but the finer details are not worked out as far as exchange or so on for $4400

Sean can get a short engine from Readies with warranty (30days) now he got a price of $2000 but was going to ring him back to put the screws in.

AB was on the phone to Paul at Patrolapart and Paul strongly suggested rebuilding the bottom end and if pistons are fine do not touch them.. Now some vague prices for machining start at $1000 for new bearings and the machine work but this depends on how much damage is done and could be as high as $2000?

The head is fine and would just need a very light shave.

Any thoughts kids?

Have the oil galleries in your block been completely cleaned out? It won't matter what you get done, if there is a possibility of crud causing more problems.

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Originally Posted by threedogs

if you go down the 2nd hand motor road what motor would be preferred silver or black top. I can check my sources for prices if you want?

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Just do it anyway.
Educational purposes. Lol

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Originally Posted by Bob

Jonathon
I am sorry that this has happened however I would advise you to involve your Wife in any decision that you make.
Your family must come first and you need her support in what you do.
Bob

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Shoulda got a Tom Tom ay BoB ;)

So John other than a stuffed short engine for $500 did you get anything out of your contacts?

You know I'm in for any help I can mate. I might be able to swing some financial help your way but I'm more than happy to come help George work on it while you just bugger off for a while and relax. My offer stands for Sars to come keep Alexander company for a few hours so you can just chill.

I can even offer up my place to do the work. I have all the tools needed here and not short on space either lol. But it's your decision bud we are all here behind you.

You deserve all this support mate.You are nothing but a total gentlemen (well atleast until we get to know you properly) so now is the time we give back to you.

Call me anytime for any reason specially over the next 2 nights when I'm away haha

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Originally Posted by matfew

You know I'm in for any help I can mate. I might be able to swing some financial help your way but I'm more than happy to come help George work on it while you just bugger off for a while and relax. My offer stands for Sars to come keep Alexander company for a few hours so you can just chill.

I can even offer up my place to do the work. I have all the tools needed here and not short on space either lol. But it's your decision bud we are all here behind you.

You deserve all this support mate.You are nothing but a total gentlemen (well atleast until we get to know you properly) so now is the time we give back to you.

Call me anytime for any reason specially over the next 2 nights when I'm away haha

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Ooooowww phone cudles!!!!

It looks like you have a lot of support here BA in getting your troubles sorted.

This kind of gesture makes me glad I started this forum in the first place so my suggestion is to lap it up and take it with open arms to get your rig sorted.

We all know that you'll be there to help another friend on here as already proven mate so don't be shy.

But as mentioned on the phone, lets work out the right approach first.

Paul's suggestion does have a lot of Merritt if other avenues don't work out and if the engine checks out.

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

So John other than a stuffed short engine for $500 did you get anything out of your contacts?

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maybe you should try typing "@Threedogs" !!!!!?????????? :)

Thanks again guys... I still have no idea what I am doing, I just got back from Toorak and little huggy fell asleep on the way back and I wish someone could have carried me to bed... I am so tired.

There is only one week till xmas with no plan in place as yet.

I did not touch the engine today and am a little flat and over it for the moment..( please dont tell me to put the thing away for a couple of months) I just cleaned the house and laundry and crap and cooked a proper dinner and try and get some energy back.

I threatend to end the life of this little yuppie prick in Toorak today and was so close to dragging him into the middle of the road... not because of what he did to me but how he reacted to being a shit.... deep breaths.

Maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

I wonder if the oil to turbo pressure issue is related to your issue? I really don't know but I really wish that I could help strip your engine to get to the bottom of it.

If it helps, after Xmas I'd like to offer some support, even if it's only a minor donation.

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

Maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

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Hope so. A lot of people behind you BA, it should come together for a good outcome.

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

Thanks again guys... I still have no idea what I am doing, I just got back from Toorak and little huggy fell asleep on the way back and I wish someone could have carried me to bed... I am so tired. There is only one week till xmas with no plan in place as yet. I did not touch the engine today and am a little flat and over it for the moment..( please dont tell me to put the thing away for a couple of months) I just cleaned the house and laundry and crap and cooked a proper dinner and try and get some energy back. I threatend to end the life of this little yuppie prick in Toorak today and was so close to dragging him into the middle of the road... not because of what he did to me but how he reacted to being a shit.... deep breaths. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

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I hope your not too shitty at me for starting this thread, but I think you deserve all you get.
Wait that sounds bad.
PML.

As I mentioned I am more than happy to chip in once a decision is made. IMO a quality reputable exchange motor would be good option fairly quick too. I would he happy with pauls (patrolapart) advise he does no his stuff and is a good resource. Second hand motor is a gamble, mines been good but is a bit of an unknown.
Anyways take your time to make a decision when you feel happy about it. Bloody good to see such support, it'll be going beter than ever soon.

If time and money permit and all your bolt on parts are OK a reco short motor would be a good option, but as said you need to do what you think is best.

My earlier offer of assisting still stands whenever you decide to do something.

I cannot get the bloody Harmonis balancer off... driving me mad and I am now sick !!!!!!!!!!! fwark.

It is really looking like it might be timing gears that is the issue but I have been wrong time and time again so not holding my breath.

Hi folks,

I have been asked to use my account for anyone wishing to donate money. Bahaha suckers...;)

In all seriousness this cannot go into my savings account with my current situation...lol... and I just remembered I have an awards savings account that is unused which will be perfect to hold the donations.

My details are;

Andrew Batty
Commonwealth Bank
Bsb: 063222
Acc: 10351660

Thanks Andy. Transfer done. Hopefully the transfers will roll in then the options are clearer. Hopefully a good qaulity rebuilt engine ready to drop in :)

Only just seen this thread, sounds like a great idea.
I'm in for 200, transfer done.
Merry Christmas BA