Rule of thumb is what ever you spend on a rifle is what you spend on a scope.
But if you are after a good cheaper entry level scope look at redfield leuopold or Burris ranges
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Rule of thumb is what ever you spend on a rifle is what you spend on a scope.
But if you are after a good cheaper entry level scope look at redfield leuopold or Burris ranges
True, I took a punt on a Redfield revolution scope(the US made one) for my Enfield and it is fantastic. Liked it so much that I'm getting one for my Mauser. You can get em for $300 or a touch less if you shop around. Excellent scope for the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca86
Darren as a starting point for you I would go either a Leupold vx-1 or a Redfield.
I have a VX-1 and find it to be a great basic scope with good optics.. I also have an older Redfield and I also like that but the new ones let me down with the cross hair being rather thick.
Leupold has a lifetime guarantee and if you find your self wanting much better later then you will fit it to your .22
3x9x40 is a good size hunting scope the suits most applications and what ever you do dont get sucked into thinking big is better... going out buying a 6x24 x50 for hunting is not advisable... the higher the magnification you have it dialed up the harder it is to look through quickly to get on target and you also lose sight of where you are in the big picture.
On a 3x9 I have it set at 3 and on my Varmint rifle 4x16x56 I have it set at about 5.
Stay away from being sucked into all the ebay ones from China.. you will soon learn as soon as you look through real scope your one sucks.
Also price match as this hunting industry in this country sucks bad and its not often prices are advertised and vary greatly from shop to shop.
Are you still allowed to have a pump action .22?
I remember a friend had one, boito, Remington?
And it had 8 or so rounds?
This was a long long time ago though.
Yes you can but they suck.... as do a lot of the lever actions.
I prefer a good bolt action.. more accurate and less likely to have feed issues.
Yup,
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Or if you fancy some old timey cowboy fun you can get a lever action 22.
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Henry Goldenboy, excellent rifle by all accounts.
Pretty sure you are allowed pump action rifles still, not just .22's :) I've seen .308's and .223's in pump action. One such was the Remington 7615. Some guys love decking them out to look like they are playing Call of Duty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Thanks gents...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
BA, why do they suck, accuracy?
Yes and feed problems are more likely... can be frustrating... really its a bit of wank, as Irish posted ooh look at me I am a cowboy bang bang!!!!
If you are shooting pigs at close range with larger caliber then that is understandable..
For me I'm mainly interested in something I can actually use to kill vermin on the property and friends properties on a regular basis.
Not something I buy and leave in the cabinet.
Something that won't piss the neighbours off either using subsonics, etc
Any suggestions as I'm new to this?
The infestation around here is insane!
That's why I was suggesting the over and under shot gun/22.
I would also like a shotgun so....if I need two then so be it.
You had any experience with the browning lever actions? Was looking at one in a .223. Very pricey though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Hunting/shooting is like golf need more than one club in the bag. I have a 10 round mag .22 bolt action you could do accurate shots at 50 m every 3 seconds off a bench you don't need pump or lever action
I am going a 30-06 for deer and foxes AB but I understand a 223 will take out foxes no dramas. 223 for rabbits too. Or Shotgun for any of the small stuff at close range for the win. So as Macca says a cople of different guns is likely.
AB the latest rimfire 22's in lever action either browning or marlin are a great thing and for what you want to do they would be great . In saying that they come at a cost , they are more expensive to buy .Cost and preference are the factors to consider. Darren for a rifle scope in 30-06 I highly recommend bushnell elite in 3x9x40. The two that I have are the elite 4200 models but not sure if bushnell still have them or have refreshed or rebranded the model line up . They do the job very well at dawn and dusk ,this time is crucial when stalking deer.
30-06 is way overkill on a fox... I used my .243 on a fox and shot it straight through the head and the round blew its asshole out... its head was almost gone.
I love .204 as one ripping fast round but for more of an all rounder the 22-250 is the roo shooters round of choice.
I myself am not a huge fan of the .223 and the main reason it is so popular is the ammo is cheaper than other rounds due to military applications.
I am huge fan of the .243 and love that it can do so much even on smaller deer.
I also like 30-06 over .308 any day of the week but many who go straight out and buy a big caliber find they hardly get to use the thing and many farmers dont like you using stuff like that on there farms.
Have a 30-06 and thought that may be the case but figured I'd be aiming for Deer in the high country with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Been watching the 223/243 debate in a few groups closely. Seems price is the main point of difference. Any idea the difference per round for similar brand?
Was looking at the Browning BLR mainly because it would tick a lot of the "don't currently have" boxes (stainless, lever, takedown) but is quite pricey... Much of a muchness at the moment though given I don't have the money for another one.
http://www.acme-firearms.com.au/Fede...on%20Index.htm
That's a good link just for comparison, $0.92 each for the 223 and $1.58 each for the 243 just as a rough comparison.
Really imo if you are hunting game animals, ammo cost is not a big factor, 1 bullet per deer/duck/pig etc is all you will be doing. It is going down to the range and shooting targets that really gets expensive with the larger more expensive rounds.
Thanks for the link, and agree with you on the cost factor mate, just another thing to consider is all when it comes to restocking. Not a massive difference in price tough by the sounds of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crate
223 can leave you wanting. A 243 can be over kill a 22/250 slots in there nicely at about 1 to 1.50 a round for factory ammo is a great all rounder. If you were to have a 1 gun only policy I'd look at a 25-06
I have 3 for a reason 22 for bunnies close fox fun and plinking. A 22/250 if I want fox rabbit roo at night at distance and a 7mm rem mag because I can its cool and will kill anything in Australia
Plus if you get serious you'll reload anyway then the 22/250 makes a 223 it's bitch big tim and is cheaper than factory 223 when you reload.
AB, if you just want a cheap knockabout rifle or shottie, you can pick em up pretty cheap. I got a 2nd hand 22 for Bek for $150 from Centreway firearms and it shoots straight as, snagged another from Melbourne Firearms for $90(ask Johnny about it)and I've picked up a shottie(bit rough around the edges but works fine) for Bek from Clayton firearms for about $250. So you don't have to break the bank.
My first rifle cost $395 with a scope, has knocked over it's fair share of bunnies.
With shotguns, as long as it isn't rusted out/pitted down the barrels(and of course goes bang bang), you really can't go wrong. I've seen single barrel 12ga for as little as $80.
Watching doomsday prepers.
This yank has 67 types of guns from automatics to shottys to all different types of hand guns.
Obviously prepping but said he's main reason for the guns is the amount of snakes...lol
Americans really are a little bit crazy! Love watching these trashy shows,
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Originally Posted by AB
Thats pretty dumb if you are prepping for an EOTWAWKI situation.
Better to have a small selection of guns that all fire the same ammo, than a dolly mixture of all kinds of rubbish...
depends how you look at it Irish. if he has a huge selection of guns he'll surely have a gun to fire any ammo he picks up out and about.
he could have a shite load of ammo for 1 calibre he owns a few different combos of. say 22 rifle 22 pistol 22/12 Guage combo etc
Apparently only Knox police station is the only one with a firearms officer in my area.
Being ringing the division all week and no answer!
Not sure over east but here in wa, under the act, any police officer can accept and approve firearms applications.
Its an internal thing having allocated firearms officers.
That was told to me by the officer who processed my application awhile back.
I'm a big believer in keeping it simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by matfew
I'd go 22lr(good for pistol or rifle), 12ga, maybe one larger pistol calibre and max of two rifle calibres.
I don't think you are tied to your local division when it comes to sitting the safety course, you could try ringing others, contacting licensing services directly, maybe give the SSAA a call or if you are in the neighbourhood, just swing by and ask in person.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Ok a bit of an update about booking in for the safety course and that is you do need to download and print the form and then just drop it off at the police station that does the course.
George was here late yesterday and he had still not got off his ass so I rang there and then to book him in and the recorded message gave all the details needed, I printed off the form and George filled it out and dropped it off straight away.. they said it could be within a few weeks.
I will update the first post but...
Wow I would have thought lilydale, croydon and Ringwood would all be big enough for a firearms officer.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Damn!!! Might have been what I said...... In post 4 of the thread. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Once you figure out the station it is you need to hand it into you can get the form over the counter at that station. Takes 30seconds to fill out.
Is the licencing more stringent now with whats happening on the news or just same ole same ole
In qld it's still the same. Do a safety coarse fill out your paper work hand it in to the police station pay your money then wait for it to be processed usually 3-9 months then fill out your PTA for every fire arm
Ok, so I'm booked in next Wednesday!
I've read the booklet but I have a shocking memory.
They have in bold that we must know the 10 safety rules!!!!
I'm sure ill remember it on the day...lol...better re read it just to be safe. I know the booklet was really just common sense but I haven't had a test in decades...lol
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Originally Posted by AB
Fantastic!
Take the booklet with you if you feel the need mate. They pretty much hand you the answers - they WANT you to pass because it means you know the info.
Very true, good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by relyimah
AB or anyone else considering getting a licence maybe you should also join say SSAA or one of the other hunting or shooting organisations as well -
the $20 million liability insurance is a good thing to have, it is cheap insurance also a reason to have licence.
Cheers
Tikashooter
Yeah don't stress mate, I've met you once and your not a complete dumb ass ;) so you will be fine. The test is designed for 15 year olds to pass so if anyone fails it completely then they should never be allowed near a firearm. The firearm officer that ran mine was more than willing to help out as needed especially the mandatory couple of questions.
Also I never read the book before going, they deliver it all through death by PowerPoint and a really old video.
Im booked in Next Wednesday too.! In Geelong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB