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Hey all just got my nads fitted. Now I have the gauge and all fitted what Figures should I be looking at? It's peak boost is 21psi and highest egt I have seen so far it's 524°c. Because it's auto it doesn't hold the bossy when I back off but cruising at 110kph boost is anywhere between 5-10 psi and egt at around 350°c but goes into the 400s and 500s when it's revving high. Are these figures OK?
Bump for this one.
If your getting 21psi max I would go slighty higher in mid range boost. I.E 100ks to about 14 or 15psi. You might find your egts will drop a bit more. To raise your mid range boost wind the needle valve in a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by rusty_nail
500c is close to top end of the egt scale in my opinion.
WOW ,you reckon 14-15 psi @ 100kph, to me that's a lot of pressure for a long time
Seems a tad high I followed Chaz Yellowfoots lead and went for 10PSI at 100kph
My max is about 20PSI, egt's climb when pushed hard as to be expected and around
300-350c solo on the hwy
Thanks mate it does go up to that boost but it is sooo hard to tell what is normal because of the auto and it letting go of the boost as soon as you back off. I guess I'm not used to diesel and turbo and auto etc yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
If I run 10psi the car runs like a bag of poo. Been at 15 for nearly a year, even towed my camper on numerous times at this pressure with no issues. I think it's all relative to the max boost. You run 15psi max, you go 10 at 100ks. You run 20, go higher mid range boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
Right, i know some of you already know somehitng has happened to my car a few weeks ago, and some may not.
Bit of background first. I got NADS fitted to the car just under a month ago. I picked the car up from the mechanic just on or around the 26th/27th June. Drove the car around for a week and it drove fine. I was planning on going on a camping trip on the weekend of the 4th July. I was not even 5 minutes into this trip and lost all power on a steep hill ascent. White smoke poured out of the engine bay and i did not have time to see if it also came out of the exhaust pipe as i was on a main highway and in an extremely dangerous position as there was no where to pull over. long story short the car was towed back to the mechanic who had done all the NADS to tell me what the F%^& had happened to my car.
I have just spoken to him today and he is under the impression one of the valves has disintegrated. He told me there is little or no compression (cant remember which) in cylinder no 3. His diagnosis hasnt been fully completed but he believes this problem to be a head related issue and i will probably not be up for sourcing a new motor.
With all that in mind i thought i would make a post about it to get some other opinions. i know i havent been terribly detailed with my post, but its hard to know what to include and what not to. if i havent been detailed enough with somthing ask me ill answer it to to best of my ability, but yeah any ideas on what caused this etc would be much appreciated guys.
cheers
Rusty
also, special thanks must goto BA, MudrunnerTD and Mudski for the text messages of concern/interest in helping me in what ever way they can manage, i really cant thank you enough guys.
Damn damn damn damn damn.......... Head is better than an engine! Is a disintegrating Valve a common problem guys?? WTF? Is there a chance it might have gone in and caused problems? I have no idea?
Good luck with it Nic, Shattered for you mate!
What were all your gauges showing when this happened? It doesn't sound good but the white smoke could have been steam and it may just be a cracked head.
If it's disintegrated normally means it has gotten way to hot. I'd be interested to see the state of the intake manifold. I just hope that the heat has killed the head and not melted or cracked a piston. The fact it's #3 is very concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
ok great, i can answer all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
boost was around the 18-20psi mark, EGT @ around 470degc
most of the smoke from the engine bay came from the hose at the bottom of the catch can blowing off (due to the catch can filling up with oil) and blowing oil all over the side of the motor. there was a real burned smell in the bay when i was finally ina safe place to pop the hood. the motor still runs, but its super super rough and white smoke comes out of the exhaust. i didnt see if the radiator was down on water but i know that the motor lost a ship load of oil it went from full to below empty when the NRMA mech tried to start it to do his initial diagnosis.
whats so concerning about number 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
In its infinite history 3 & 4 are generally the pots that either melt or crack. Your white smoke explanation worries me and points towards the engine unfortunately. I really hope I'm wrong mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by rusty_nail
ok im not fussed mate, obviously i will be more dissapointed, but regardless the bloody thing has to be fixed. thanks for the advice though, its really appreciated. when i know more ill be posting it up on here. question though, the EGTs were that hot from what i believe? the rings/pistons wouldnt be likely to melt at those temps would they? especially considering i was on the road for not even 5 mins so the motor hadnt been workign that hard prior to it going kaput?Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
btw i have to drive home now and broke my smart phone on monday(im have a great luck streak of late) ill check this thread later tonight, sorry if i cant answer any questions till then.
470 is getting up there but this is post turbo you can't really tell what each individual cylinder is running at. It is possible that if the intake is gunked up around cylinders then that particular cylinder will run hotter than the rest without you knowingQuote:
Originally Posted by rusty_nail
yep fair enough, oh well i think he said he was going to pull more bits off it and see what actual damage there is in it, will just have to wait till he dismisses all speculation and has a clear cut answer on what the problem is.Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
That sucks Nic, here's hoping it's a repair on the easier side. Is the valve still in one piece, just blocked or stuck open, or are there bits missing?
Far out Nico, you're a calm little cookie mate. If that was me i would be farking killing people....just sayin
Let me know if you need anything mate but nothing out of my engine,thank you!...LOL
Hi Nic, when I first heard about this I really felt for you and was hoping it was a mistake. All I can say mate is you're taking this a lot better than I would.
All the best and really hope things improve.
I know Nic is gutted from this and his attitude is a testament to his character... I wish he was closer so I could help more as he is a top bloke with a very thoughtful outlook.
I am hoping for the best mate and wish I could have heard the engine running on that car mate but without a key it is too much of a gamble???
My energy was wasted on the wrong people and so wish there was something more I could do.
thanks for all the support fellas. i think of it like this. i could get angry, it would upset the missus, probably burn the bridge with the mechanic looking at it, and i would be no better off, infact i would probably be worse. the way i see it is i just need to cop it on the chin, and forget about how sh!t it is and look for positives. i could have been stranded in the middle of the simmo with all the boys (or heaven forbid by myself) and even though i would have been surrounded by people that would bend over backwards to help it would have still been a reall shitty situation. im lucky no one got hurt, the car is still pretty much in one piece and it is repairable, and at the end of the day i will have a motor that has been pulled apart looked at inspected for anything else that could potentially go wrong and have it fixed and then ill be back on the road.
i feel really lucky to have this forum and all you genuine people on here to offer your condolences and i say thank you for being such top blokes. i am also lucky to have a supportive missus and a caring family who will also bend over backwards to help me sort this out.
last few months have been quite bad round here and i guess all i can say is when it rains, it bloody pours. fortunately all storms pass, i just have to weather it till it does.
Good luck with it all Nic. I really hope it's just the head. Like Matt has said, 470 is getting up there in the egt's but still not top end of the scale.
If its any consolation, I got a call from my mate who's brothers 3ltr dropped the pin four days after I got your call. Only for him he was 300ks from Uluru and he's got a towing bill of 4k back to Melbourne.
If there's anything you need, give me a shout and I'll help out where I can.
Good on ya Nic! Sorry to hear about the car but you have got a great attitude towards it, onwards and upwards as a cuddly friend of ours would say!
nissnewby, mate didnt want to detract from jonathons thread.... its going slow. saw him on thursday and hes pulling the head off albeit slowly. so still no definitive answers =(
Thanks mate. I hope it is something simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by rusty_nail
Oh man, hope she's not too bad. This was my concern when buying a GUII, though it has a new motor and NADS done at the same time, so hoping she'll be good to me.
only just seen this thread nic. I got bits of info off Facebook but didn't think it was this bad. hope she is an easy fix and bank on the road soon. you've got till 13th sep to get it back on the road haha
haha thanks mate, i dont think ill be driving down then unfortunately. IF it is fixed by then i think ill be broke from the whole ordeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by matfew
watch this space, im speaking with him this arvo, hes putting an inspection camera into cylinder no 3 to have a look for any signs of visible damage.
Good luck Nic! I hope its an easy fix !!
Righto, well here it is. Im up for a new motor, he couldnt get a camera into the head but he took the bottom of the sump off and found lots of metal so its either a cracked piston or destroyed rings. I cant express how dissapointed I am... pretty gutted TBH.
But onward and upward. What are my options from here to get the bloody thing fixed?
The car is a 2004 model, so i believe i am able to throw in a TD42 into it without too many complications? If i went down this path, what would I be up for? new gearbox? new diff centers? I believe the engine mounts are in different positions so they would need to be moved? I would need to find a rolled patrol and how much am i looking at just for that?
If I put another 3l into it, I'm just putting another potential hand grenade into it right?
I'm pretty lost for words at the moment but if anyone wants to make some suggestions about where i should start to look and what to look for I would be most appreciative.
I am so sorry to hear mate.... I really am.
I am not sure what advice I could offer.. this just hurts so bad and its not happening to me.
If you find anything down here I will do what I have to to help out.
Fark me Nic...as said before mate, all offers stay open till you're ready mate!
Terrible news, good luck which ever way you go.
Farrrrk no good man!
Sending happy thoughts to ya as that's about all I'm good for in this situation
Thats terrible Nic! Cheapest option is to throw a second hand motor in, the later the better. Next options are engine conversions, the td42 will probably be the cheapest coz the gearbox is the same you just need to take a spacer off the front of the gearbox, relocate the engine mount brackets on the chassis and possibly splice the loom to get the techo to work. V8 conversion will probably be around 15k same as a rebuild.
As a ball park you'd start with $5k and work your way up from there unfortunately
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Sorry 2 hear Nic, if you could whack a TB42 straight in I'd offer you mine until you got sorted.
Can't offer any advise, but if you end up doing the conversion and doing it yourself you know I'll try my hardest to be there 2 give you a hand.
I will keep my eye out for a rolled TD for you.
Damn mate, really feel bad for ya. Those are the dreaded news, no grenade owner should ever hear. But is all too common unfortunately. :(
Hey. Nic! Gutted for you mate! I simply can't believe it! Can't believe it! I steered you to that car and believed 200% that it would be a strong reliable long term buy!
Can't believe it!
Sorry mate