Does the oil for the engine also lubricates the manual trans in 3 L turbo diesel Newbee Paul
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Does the oil for the engine also lubricates the manual trans in 3 L turbo diesel Newbee Paul
Caltex Delo 400 - about $90 for 20l (2 and a bit changes). budget about $35 for a filter.
$35 for an oil filter? for my commodore $5 supercheap
Quote:
Originally Posted by szaf
your commodore can't climb rocks though
Got a ZD30 CRD and just bought 40l of Caltex Delo 400 Multigrade. Suggest you make sure you check when you buy though as the Delo 400 comes in several types.
If you check the specifications in the workshop manual, it's only the Multigrade which meets Mr. Nissan's requirements. In among the intergalactic 'Performance Characteristics' he specifies are CF-4, CF and JASO DH-1 all with viscosity 5W-30 if you're opeating in -30C up to 40C OR 15W-40 for a temp. range of -15C up to 40+C.. These are detailed in the latest supplement for the CRD engine.
In Adelaide, the Lubesonline doesn't seem to work or at least not from my computer. Seems Caltex do their own thing (here at least).
Got my oil at $100 per 20l. tins from the Caltex agent who's listed in the 'phone book under Caltex but titles himself as 'Adelaide fuel distributors'. Much cheaper than the "cheap' auto parts floggers and of course the Caltex servos are too busy unloading everything from trans fats to condoms to sell what we want.
Gave the wagon new filters and a dose of the 2T with this oil and all seems well
Good thred this, goes forever doesn't it.
Col
FOUND THIS ON ANOTHER SITE INTERESTING READ
Below is a copy of a copy of a supposed Nissan Publication. I cannot give any assurance it is correct so I am not responsible it is it BS.
Bulletin No: MAO4-001
Re: Revised Engine Oil Specification
Applied Model: Y61 & D22
Applied range: ZD3O Engines
Please be advised that the specification for the 011 fill on the ZD30 has been revised. Engine Oils that meet the specification listed below are the only oils that are permitted for use in the ZD30 Engine. 011 Specification: ACEA 83 or JASO DH.1. Nissan strongly recommend that a viscosity rating of 10W40 be used. For specific viscosity relating to ambient temperature ranges please refer to the viscosity chart in the relevant workshop manual.
Note: API CG-4 0118 must never be used In the ZD30 engine.
To support the revision in oil specification, Nissan has developed a
semi-synthetic 10W-40 engine oil that meets all the operational demands of this engine. The revision of the new oil specification is retrospective and will apply to all ZD30 engines.
The oil will be available from Nissan Parts & Accessories in 51t and 200lt Quantities using the following part numbers.
51t- B3005-10W40PK
2001t- B3200..10W40PK
Authorised by:
R Bahn
Manager. Engineering Support
National Service & Engineering Department
NISSAN MOTOR GO.
Locked Bag 1450. Dandenong South, VIC, :3154 Phone. (03) 97974111 Fax. (03) 97974400
PLEASE NOTE
This bulletin does not mention engine oil and filter change frequency.
On page 8-5 of my owners manual engine oil and filter changes are specified for every 15,000kms. On page 8-7 under Severe Conditions it specifies engine oil and filter changes every 7,500 kms.
A mechanic told me that Nissan had issued advice reducing the 15,000 km or 7,500 kms engine oil and filter changes to 10,000 kms or 5,000 kms for severe conditions.
He definitely didn't like the Nissan ZD30 engine or any Nissan for that matter. He defined severe conditions as all normal Australian motoring. He ( cynically? ) suggested something like the idea that in the case of the ZD30 engine, 10,000 kms may be ok if;
- the vehicle was driven constantly for 10,000 kms unloaded;
- never stopped;
- on flat bitumen road;
- engine never exceeded 2,200 RPM or idled more than 30 seconds each hour, and;
- outside air temperature constantly between 15 and 20 degrees C.
Anything different must be considered severe for the ZD30.
To 'O Glenelg O'
Two points
1) I know Glenelg is a burb of my home town but who actually are you? Do you have a name to sign off on?
2) love your post. Everyone likes what is good by their own experience, but getting down to the guts of Mr.Nissan and his missives to the galaxy with specs. etc. is what it's all about .
API CG4 is an oil which is specifically excluded in the updates I mentioned above but the other grades besides JASO DH-1 are quite clearly included as acceptable.
We have a slight problem in that there are no dates for your reports from Mr.Nissan. My latest data is dated Jan. 2007 and at that date the oil changes are still at 15000K for 'normal' use or "more frequently' if under 'severe conditions'.
To coin a phrase, what the hell is severe. One persons definition may well differ from another but I like to be conservative and go for safe.
Perhaps the mechanic you mention is a Toyota man.
It's interesting when you look back through this thread to see the number of members who go for the 5000k change . Reckon they'll never go wrong.
Anyway, thanks for the comments
Col.
sorry i will update when i get my new laptop my 100kg mastiff took a chunk out of the keyboard and the trusty phones dosnt work to well with the nett. I agree 5000km oil changes the go. Cheers Brian
Thanks for the tip Jon, may wander down to see if discount still available.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlyingBadger
I do have a newbie question about Engine oil flushes as our Patrol is pushing 140K km's and wonder with what if any regularity it is used. Each oil change or every 10K km's?
Thanks J
Penrite HPR for me
I use Fuchs heavy duty diesel oil and its also a synthetic oil aswell, apparantly you can get a lot more k's on the highway with the stuff, 8-10000kms I was told. However if 4wding I would still prefer to change every 5000kms. But sinceI've been running this oil the engine sounds smoother and quiter. Thats my 2 cents anyway
Here in Europe services prefers oil change depend on European emission standards (Euro 3, Euro 4 or Euro5)
5W - 40 full synthetic on new engines for highway up to 100 000 km (every 15 000 km or one year whatever come first )
10W - 40 semi-synthetic on new engines for city's and normal use up to 120 000 km - 150 000 km (every 10 000 km or one year whatever come first )
15W - 40 mineral for engines over 150 000 (every 5 000 km )
And yes - there is the drivers who they driving a car less then 15 000 km per year - then the one year rule coming up.
Is not bad to check the date of production of lubricant you are using.
:xxxx:
i have always used penrite----plasnart reckons his smoked more on it???????????????---my old chook has 245000 on it and runs penrite and the only smoke it puffs is the little diesel puff they all do when first started.being a pedantic mother i am,i will use delo 400 next change ---if anyone can give me a good reason to!!!!!!!!!!
Dunno what I had in the troll when I bought but I put Penrite HPR last change and Im sure its a bit noisier, will be putting Delo 400 in it before I head north...
Plasnart, you say you used Rimkula X. Which one. I have access to Rimula X 15W40.
Max
penrite hpr diesel, it used to love my gu 2.8, never gave me problems, changed it every 5000kms, cheers blake
I use cheep oil but change it often. Multi 10/40
Demand for Caltex Delo 400 . Always get from the whole-seller. Then you can say that you get the real engines.If Delo 400 is not available then you can go with any other caltex product but ask if it is useful for your vehicle or not.
x2 for delo 400
I use the genune nissan oil as the 4bee has only done 50,000km (4yrs old). At what k's do you change?
every 5000KmQuote:
Originally Posted by snicko
Sorry I mean how many on the clockQuote:
Originally Posted by TheFlyingBadger
oh, yeah - so you did! I've only done 11000Km, and i'm on my second lot of delo (changed myself at 5K and supplied oil for 10K service)Quote:
Originally Posted by snicko
Thought you guys like to know of my recent experience with Caltex.
My GU 3.0 is currently running Magnatex with no problems, but as there have been somany recommendations
for Delo 400 I decided to go to the Caltex Depot myself and check it out. The price was right
$95.00 for 20 litres, but I asked the obvious question of the agent. Is it right for my vehicle?
After some checking on the computer data base and a call to head office the consensus
was that it is not suitable as it conforms to CG4, which I believe the Zinc content can damage
the catalytic converter, and there appeared to be some doubt as to the lubricating demands
of the ZD30. The end result was that they recommended Havoline semi-syn, which is a
Caltex product as well So I left confused. I went to Autobarn next and they more or less
said anything that conforms to CF4 is o/k to use including GTX3, I sincerely doubt I would
ever concider putting that in my ZD30.
So as it happens Repco had a sale on Magnatec, 10 litres for $62.95. That will have to do until I can get
more clarification.
These engines are far too finicky and costlt to take too many risks with, particularly oils. I change oil & filter every 5k's
and feel as confident as I can with Magnatec.
GU111 2002 95k's.
Phil.
Hi Phil,Quote:
Originally Posted by philmar
While I personally haven’t used Delo400, I have done some research on it and I think the info you have is wrong. The Caltex site say’s that Delo400 Multigrade is API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, SL, SH, ACEA E7 or JASO DH-1. It also say’s “Also for Euro 4 compliant vehicles, except those units fitted with diesel particulate filters and requiring ACEA E6 oils” which makes it ideal for the ZD30.
Having said that, I think Castrol Magnatec in 10W40 is an excellent choice and possibly the better choice in a colder climate. The Magnatec has a 40c cSt of 102, which makes it a bit thinner than the Delo’s 125 cSt at 40c for cold start viscosity. At operating temperature, they are too close to call, the Magnatec has a cSt of 14.5 at 100c and the Delo thins down to a cSt of 15.1, so not much in it.
To sum it up, if you were to choose between the two, I’d use the Magnatec in a cooler climate and the Delo if it was hotter weather, but they should both be suitable for the ZD30 Patrol. Personally, I use Mobil1 in 5W50, but will soon be changing over to Penrite SIN 0W50.
GUIII 2002 165K's
Chaz
Chaz
good reply.
The Castrol Delo 400 Multi (not any other Delo) is certainly recommended for the CRD ZD30.
I think if you meet the specs. from Nissan you wont go wrong and I also suspect that the later model 'non grenade' ZDs are a more reliable motor and will do a longer run between services.
We maybe shouldn't get too passionate about what make oil if they all meet the specs. and I'm thinking somewhere between the good old 5K. for oil and filter changes and the new numbers may well work.
Will we ever know?
Regards
Col
I'm using Magnatec 10W40 in my 2004 ZD30. I notice a lot of you use Delo 400 which i beleive is 15W40. I'm in Kalgoorlie where the weather is pretty warm most of the year round.What grade do you guys suggest to use for the warmer climate.
Cheers
Gary
Gary,Quote:
Originally Posted by scrubrat
I wouldn’t be too concerned with the manufacturers “W” rating because there is no real standard for it. In some cases you will find a 15W oil to be thinner than a 10W oil between different manufacturers. Check the cSt ratings on the oils spec sheets to get an accurate idea on a particular oils viscosity because there is a standard between manufacturers in this case where they must quote cSt levels at 40 and 100 degrees Celsius (cold start and operating temps). Delo 400 Multigrade would be ideal in your case, particularly if you do a lot of highway driving.
Thanks for the info Chaz. Next oil change I might give Delo 400 Multigrade a go. It seems to be a popular choice among the ZD30 owners,so it must be good.
Cheers
Gary
Hi all i got delo 400 today wow $85 for 20 l $86 for filters oil and fuel littel job this weekend thanks ynot oil from rocklea QLD
Cossy,Quote:
Originally Posted by cossy
being from Sth. Oz. I'm a bit slow so you'll understand my confusion. 85 bucks for oil and 86 for filters seems weird.
Gotta say though the oil price seems bloody brilliant. Maybe should move up your way although I did prefer a bit further North up in the Iron Range area.
All the best from down South
Col
dello 400 for me
filters were from Nissan oil and fuel I will need to get a air filter to finsh
valvoline super diesel
was told alot of the synthetic oils cause glazing, but had no dramas with super diesel
but always willing to try new things, ill give the dello 400 a shot next time
valvoline............. you know what i mean
I was using Mobil Delvac 1 up until 20,000km's and then switched to Caltex Delo 400. I haven't looked back, the engine seems to love the stuff. I have just clocked up 52,000km's and the top of the head still looks like new. Castrol J-Max would be my second choice as it's also a really good oil for Japanese engines. Cheers.
SnakeyQuote:
Originally Posted by snake1978
reckon advertising works two ways. Anything to do with Mr. Valvoline ( know what I mean) is totally out of my buying bag.
If they have to buy his honest opinion, (the more they pay, the more honest?????) reckon the product isn't what I want.
Plenty of unpaid, experienced opinions on sites like this which I'd rather rely on.
All the best
Col.
every 5000k
Hey Kris, has this guy shutdown now?Quote:
Originally Posted by NissPat
I'm about to do Bluey's first service and would like to use Delo 400 but for the life of me I cannot find any suppliers around here!!!!
Even the main oil supplier in Bayswater doesn;t have it...GRR!!!!!
Does anyone else buy engine oil online?
I have read through most of this thread, but im not 100% sure if these recomendations also refer to the TD42-T
I really havent found a oil i like, ive tried Magnatech and Nulon and im a bit ho-hum about both of them.
any heads-up would be good!
Steve.