Shit happens mate. This is common on the common (ironic?) rails, so was bound to happen sooner or later...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
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Shit happens mate. This is common on the common (ironic?) rails, so was bound to happen sooner or later...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
Ok. So since this morning, not a single drop came out... Reason? It's warm and car has been driven. Metal expands when warm hence gap is closed and no leaks.
Last few nights were a bit coolish thats why there is a larger leak than usual. Hmmm
Went to local mr. nissan. "yes we have had this issue on 3L's a few times, it's $4300, with an engine out job due to the timing cover overlapping with the sump"...
God have mercy.
Can get a replacement engine from wreckers for that price...
you are joking aren't you. Praying to the powers that be
mine is not the same, but will get my bottles checked for leaks.
Yup. They do one a week he reckons and had a silver one in there getting the engine put back in while I saw it. He said on the CRD's they also, fix up the oil pickup??? While the sump is off. I didn't understand exactly what he said, due to being stunned after he told me the quote. He also said the later model Di's were the worst culprit for this issue, because of some sandwich plate? Nissan was putting in at the time. Anyways there is no farking way I'm paying anywhere near that much. Will ring around and get more quotes and do more homework. Otherwise let the thing leak to hell.
How bad is the leak? Are you able to monitor it and just top up accordingly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
The leak isn't that bad. It mainly leaks when the weather cools down. So few days ago, we had a warm day and then it rapidly cooled down to 12-13C overnight, and in the morning leak was the worst I've seen it. As the car stands now it hasn't leaked since yesterday morning due to being driven and / or warm weather . I keep an eye on the coolant level and it really doesn't change, if at all. I have water and coolant with me in the car all the time in case of top up needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacho86
So I can go on as it is, it may last a month before it really gets bad, or it could be a few years? Who knows, it is just annoying and will be constantly on my mind.
I've just been ringing around a few more mechanics. 2 of the surprisingly said, it is not an engine out job, but they don't want to touch it because they have fixed a few and cars returned a few weeks later with the leak developing again. Nissan supposedly have some sort of a seal and aligning tool to fix this correctly?? Don't know how much truth there is to it, but 2 different mechanics have said the similar thing and refused the job/quote so, there must be some merit to it.
I will ring some more reputable places and see what happens.
For that price I rekon would just keep an eye on it, but hopefully you'll get a better response from the other mechanics!
How common? Might be worth checking on other forums. If its very common and needs an engine out and/or special tool to fix it, could some pressure be put on nissan to recall and fix or even do a parts cost only fix. I got Ford many years ago to replace power steering lines at part cost only because the dealer told me "yea they all leak, Ford have a different modified hose now, there is a kit".Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
Might be worth a try.
Yeah I highly doubt I'd get anywhere with that mate. Even though the service manager admitted him self right in front of me they do one a week.
Sucks mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
Hi mate. My Di was an engine out job both times. I don't know about common rails. Seeing this thread makes me a bit uneasy again... Well keep an eye out on this.
Seems like the other patrol forum has a fair few crds go through this drama.
Thanks for the heads up mate. Few other shops Iv'e talked to, said it is not an engine out job, and quotes varied from 1800-2000 for a fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoki
I just want to make sure I'm checking this the right way. The bottle circled (non pressurized one) is where coolant should be checked once engine is fully warm ??? I'm gonna keep a closer eye on it from now to see just how much I'm losing over a period of time ...
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...id=53033&stc=1
The amount your losing Eric I wouldn't waste anymore time worrying about it. The conclusion seems to be an expensive one, so just make it part of your routine checks to make sure you have coolant in the (NON) pressurized bottle.
They didn't pull the engine out on mine. I was just going to leave it but it just got too bad a leak and figured a cooked engine was going to cost me a hell of a lot more 😥
I'm not keeping an eye, and track on exactly how much I'm losing roughly. After a cold night, like last night for example, in the morning, there is heaps off coolant leaked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
Well, I think my problem just grew exponentially... Get out this morning to find this under the car. S#itloads leaked out, out of the same area. Safe to say that the hot days / cold nights we've been having didn't do too good on the metal and the gap widened. Happy new year to me!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...id=53254&stc=1
Damn mate, sorry to hear! That looks to be a fair amount of coolant that's been dropped overnight - qty wise, has that now completely emptied the reservoir tanks?
Yeah mate emptied the non pressurized one, and half of the pressurized one is gone too. Just re-filled it, warmed up and not leaking, since it is warm.
I am knew to this site but I had a similiar problem thought it was coming from water pump so replace it and eventually found out it was the gasket round ring under the thermosit . regards greg
Thanks mate. Mine is coming from an area higher than the thermostat/water pump. Pretty much 90% confirmed it is a timing cover leak.Quote:
Originally Posted by stretchtex
Wives car is in much need of replacement so this bill for this will set us back a while. She ain't happy. What a farkin lemon of an engine.
Can now add oil to the leak as well. Warm weather the coolant has stopped, but oil is now appearing from roughly same spot. I've degreased it, waiting to dry and see if it is related. I have not yet mentioned the $$$ fix for this to the minister of finance, especially as it is a tight ship about now.
Fun times.
That my friend is how mine was. Slowly got worse and oil began leaking.
That photo of big leak you had, sure it's not the overflow???? I just kept driving mine as it leeks less or nothing b when engine hot or warm weather.
Good luck.
Zack.
have you tried flakes in it??Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
Better than Chemi-weld
I haven't yet TD. As it hasn't been super bad till last week or so. I'm not a fan of patch up jobs personally.
Hey Hodge, not sure how you are going with this issue but thought this maybe of interest to you to help monitor coolant levels
http://www.redarc.com.au/products/pr...coolant-alarm/
That stuff John has picture is pretty good stuff. And permanent too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
My head is really spinning about this.
Been ringing up and talking to Mechanics and few dealerships. Some say engine out, some say nope. Some say, gearbox out to get sump off, otherwise you cannot align the timing cover properly, the others say nah sump stays on. Some say, gear box and engine need to come out. Some say nothing needs to come out, just the radiator and surrounding bits and bobs to get to the timing cover.
It's not about the $$$ any more it's about who to trust to do the job the right way as this is a big big job.
Been talking to 4x4 obsession and at this stage I'm confident car will go there to get this fixed as the bloke I spoke to seemed to know about this problem and the job involved fairly well.
Watch this space.
Should mention it was 4x4 Obsession in Melton. Fair drive from my place, but from very good things heard about them, it's worth it I think . . .
Not much Brett doesn't know about Patrol, ARB trained then started Total 4x4 in Epping at Fred Parkers old shop.
now he's at his second premises at Melton. Good choice IMO
So it's not under warranty Eric?
NO chance mate, car is nearly 3 years out of warranty. Even though its only done 60k.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
I have an '03 GU with the trusty (cough cough) ZD30DI in it & I've got an intermittent leak from same/similar location. Suspect it's the water pump, but until it is leaking constantly I'm not prepared to part with the $$$ to replace the bugger...Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
I've had the car for 3yrs and there's always been a coolant smell when the motor is switched off, but no evidence of a leak until recently, About 100ml of coolant on driveway under the front of the motor, dripping off the diff. Looked everywhere & no sign of a leak, hoses etc all ok. Funny thing is, it might leave a small pool of coolant one day, then nothing for a few weeks. So until it starts hemorrhaging coolant, I'll leave it be.
Bit disconcerting when heading out into the sticks though :-(
I hear you I'm losing coolant but I cant figure it out, got me beat where its leaking from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunguska_1908
Remove your overflow tanks John and separate the two. The top tank often cracks on the underside of it as it sits on top of the lower tank. If any dirt or small debris gets in there it will create issues. Mine had the finest hairline crack in it, I could always smell coolant but never see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
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Originally Posted by Tunguska_1908
I'm willing to bet my last cent that you two have the same issues as me, and a lot of other ZD30 owners... The timing cover seal / goo is being pushed out. And mine is intermittent like all hell. Recently it's been a week without a single drop and then one day it just starts pouring out. I Too smell coolant big time everytime I turn engine off and jump out of the car after its warmed up. The coolant leaks but sits in a little tucked aaway corner where this gasket most commonly fails.Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
It accumulates in a small puddle in there until there is enough for it overflow and thats when you see the leak over the diff and eventually on the ground..
I'm monitoring mine still, as it does not leak in a "oh $#it" way... yet. And $2k + is a lot of $ to forkout and have majority of your engine ripped apart just to fix a $15 seal ... Very annoying but it is what it is.