Auto Lockers... which one??

[QUOTE=Westy's Accessories;364969]Yea you can't run auto lokka with auto hubs.. unless you have shares in a Cv joint..

got to disagree with that statement i have auto hubs in my GU with the auto lokka and have no issues with CV's and thats after 12 months of abuse around lithgow and up here around brisbane and will be heading up to cape york in 6 weeks with them and full of confidence . the only thing you have to remember with the lokka's is that after 4wding you need to enage 2wd and then travell in in the opersite direction ie if you were just go forward go backwards for a few meters swinging the steering so as to make sure the front diff is properly disengaged this only on;ly takes a minit a couple of meters works everytime

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

Do you want a cuddle Growler....... come mate lets man hug!!!!!!!!

I was looking to you for the most help???

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Ok Ok heres a helpful tip for you

















































BUY THE BLOODY LOKKA!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=29

Yea good point. Once in 2wd you have no drive to engage the lokka or auto hubs.

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

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Originally Posted by Westy's Accessories

Yea good point. Once in 2wd you have no drive to engage the lokka or auto hubs.

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories

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Technically yes, but not quite. The lokka is locked at the time, regardless of engine. But when turning the wheel, the ground forces make the outside wheel turn faster then the inside wheel, it is "outrunning" the inside wheel, but equal engine drive is still going to both wheels.

As i am also interested in getting an auto lokka, i have emailed a few places tonight for prices, i can post prices here once i get word back.

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Originally Posted by growler2058

Ok Ok heres a helpful tip for you

















































BUY THE BLOODY LOKKA!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=29

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You funny man!!!!!!! so you think this is the best locker??? or this is the only one you have tried and have no opinion of any other locker!!!

You blokes don't have any tracks down there that require lockers :p

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

You blokes don't have any tracks down there that require lockers :p

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You poor misguided soul

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

You funny man!!!!!!! so you think this is the best locker??? or this is the only one you have tried and have no opinion of any other locker!!!

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I had twin ARB lockers in a lowlux non power steering
Ya needed muscles in ya shit to turn the steering or reflexes like a steel trap to turn the bastard on n off then its not instant. Only had the Lokka from 4wd systems so can't comment on other auto lockers

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Originally Posted by growler2058

You poor misguided soul

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I know I'm misguided but that doesn't change a thing about the tracks :p

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Originally Posted by growler2058

I had twin ARB lockers in a lowlux non power steering
Ya needed muscles in ya shit to turn the steering or reflexes like a steel trap to turn the bastard on n off then its not instant. Only had the Lokka from 4wd systems so can't comment on other auto lockers

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

I had a Hilux with no power steering.. every now and then I would use it to go pick my daughter up from school and you really had to be on your A game as it is tight negotiating all those bad driving mums with no power steering and sitting 50m in the air!!

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

I had a Hilux with no power steering.. every now and then I would use it to go pick my daughter up from school and you really had to be on your A game as it is tight negotiating all those bad driving mums with no power steering and sitting 50m in the air!!

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33's locked 18psi leaf sprung lolux= pharqin pig hahahahaha
Lockin the rear only was fun had a commy v6 and shift kit auto, bit of mud and woo hoo

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

Is that a link??? if so.."FAIL"... if not and you are telling me to get off my lazy ass then.... thanks and get a dog up ya!!!!!!

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Yes that was a get off lazy ass :))

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Originally Posted by Stropp

Yes that was a get off lazy ass :))

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I dont know why I could not find it as I use to have that locker saved in my ebay??

Anyway I have a Winnie..??? ooh eer that's a bit rude isn't it!!!

I think you could repay me with a locker

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

I just spoke to the guys at 4wd systems and I think I will order one of there's..

None available for 2 weeks but I dont see me getting it done before then anyway.

Want to go with the local one so I have less issues with warranty.. thanks Growler.... special cuddle for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

I just spoke to the guys at 4wd systems and I think I will order one of there's..

None available for 2 weeks

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FYI, 2 weeks is what they told me, actually was exactly 4 weeks before i saw it posted to bris, they told me they were getting a new batch made, when mine turned up, it had so much corrosion on it, it looked like it had been sitting around for months,(http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...ty-Auto-Lokka-!) so i sent it back.

They very quickly and with no fuss sent me a new one, but it basically took 5 weeks from the time i paid for one , to be able to fit it, so i suggest you wait till you have it in your hand until pulling diff apart.

Thought it would arrive wrapped up in wax/greased paper.. Maybe some air got to it prior to fitting

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Originally Posted by GUtsy ute

Change room lockers aren't bad!!LOL

Lockrite or lokka, much the same in price and performance.
Comes down to personal choice or what your mate says!

You picked the wrong one, "Son" LOL

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I agree with GUsty ute!

I have only fitted them to the front diff of past and present Patrols. Both GQ's and GU's

Regards,

RLI

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Originally Posted by threedogs

Thought it would arrive wrapped up in wax/greased paper.. Maybe some air got to it prior to fitting

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If you have a look at 04off rolled thread this is not something that would happen with him. He is extremely skilled and meticulous as well his work is awesome.

I put a Lokka in front of my Trooper (Jackaroo). Had it sent directly here to Saudi. Was very happy with their service. I wasn't up to fitting it in front myself but found someone to do it. Put manual hubs on so it could effectively be on/off with hubs. Loved it. Didn't really expect it to make too much difference in sand but was surprised from time to timd how noticeable it was. Driving with it in 4wd is fine. No mucking around and basically nothing to go wrong.

Their warranty approach seems to suggest you'll break something else before it. I never had CV issues while Lokka was in, but a few weeks back (after 2 years) my mate who bought the Trooper had to change one of the AVM hubs as it had disintegrated.

I would like to put one in GU but waiting to confirm how long I'm staying here first. Will definitely be on my must have list for 4bys going forward.

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Just an update.. I have ordered the Lokka brand locker and it should be a couple of weeks away, the new wheel and pinion bearing kit arrived last week and I also got a new return to centre steering dampener.

Cant wait to fit it all up and have a play!!!!

Just want to know why is there a run in period of 1000km??

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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

Just an update.. I have ordered the Lokka brand locker and it should be a couple of weeks away, the new wheel and pinion bearing kit arrived last week and I also got a new return to centre steering dampener.

Cant wait to fit it all up and have a play!!!!

Just want to know why is there a run in period of 1000km??

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No meaning to rain on your parade. I have an RTC and hate it and will not buy another. A good adjustable one is the way to go

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

No meaning to rain on your parade. I have an RTC and hate it and will not buy another. A good adjustable one is the way to go

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Why is that mate?? Do you loose feedback while your driving or does it fight against you when turning ?

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

Why is that mate?? Do you loose feedback while your driving or does it fight against you when turning ?

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No matter how many times I adjust the position of the sprimg after 4wding the spring itself moves and it ends up rubbing on the shock tube itself every time you turn the wheel at slow speeds ie car park, driveway etc.
When you are in oversteer and you want to let the steering wheel go an let the wheels position itself it will only return to centre, you need to steer the rest of it yourself. That's what is like with mine anyway

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Originally Posted by Ben-e-boy

No matter how many times I adjust the position of the sprimg after 4wding the spring itself moves and it ends up rubbing on the shock tube itself every time you turn the wheel at slow speeds ie car park, driveway etc.
When you are in oversteer and you want to let the steering wheel go an let the wheels position itself it will only return to centre, you need to steer the rest of it yourself. That's what is like with mine anyway

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Thats crap! Forget about drifting lol but the spring rubbing on the dampener does that affect the steering at all or just damage it?

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

Why is that mate?? Do you loose feedback while your driving or does it fight against you when turning ?

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I don't want an rtc either. A mate had one and removed it in favour of a tough dog adjustable. Another mate has one and doesn't like it. I find that unless your crawling slowly, the wheel returns to centre pretty easy anyway. Also I like my wheels to settle in their own tracks and I like to feel which way the ruts are trying to push you.
Similar to stepping the RX out on a corner I reckon George, if you floor it and let go of the wheel it returns to centre pretty quick

FanTapstic!

Nah, avoid RTC , you'll be disappointed, M2cW
as Lucas says you lose feel for the road/track
You of all should know that BA from your green days. lol

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Originally Posted by taslucas

I don't want an rtc either. A mate had one and removed it in favour of a tough dog adjustable. Another mate has one and doesn't like it. I find that unless your crawling slowly, the wheel returns to centre pretty easy anyway. Also I like my wheels to settle in their own tracks and I like to feel which way the ruts are trying to push you.
Similar to stepping the RX out on a corner I reckon George, if you floor it and let go of the wheel it returns to centre pretty quick

FanTapstic!

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Nah the RX has Passive rear steering ( like a 911 carrera ) aswell and is is a totally different beast ( hair pins signed 35 you can go 70+ depending on tyres) when you hold it sideways for over 20m all 4 wheels point in the "forward" direction once you regain traction and then the car returns to a straight ahead position. Crap for skating but good for driving on a straight rd 30 degrees to the gutter lol.

But feeling the direction of the rut is what i mean by feedback or rd feel....

Thinking about what you guys have said, a RTC dampener enhances the effect of caster ( the reason you can ride your push bike with no hands) by using the force of the dampener and not the rear wheels...

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Originally Posted by Alitis007

Thinking about what you guys have said, a RTC dampener enhances the effect of caster ( the reason you can ride your push bike with no hands) by using the force of the dampener and not the rear wheels...

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Thus should probably go in another thread but no I dint think it's the same. With castor, the vehicle is sort or dragging the wheels strait but with rtc the wheels are getting pushed strait. Personaly I think it feels different in a mud/ruts kind of example. Also, rtc are pushing the wheels back to straight the same amount regardless of vehicle speed whereas castor straightening is relative to vehicle speed. Just my take on it

FanTapstic!

Which one would you use??


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Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie

Which one would you use??


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I got a tough dog rtc and it feels heavy and I don't like it could of saved $70 and just gone with a standard type
Mine is also scratched up from the spring moving yet to try it off road tho

Well what one does every one use??

I had a Hilux with no power steering and these were brilliant on them to help make them drive-able at low speed .....

I bought it from a shop so can take it back..... any recommendations.

Think the guys where saying adjustable type but didn't ask what was adjustable..

Take it back you wont be happy with it and will cause you grief
then we,l have to listen to you about why you dont like it and
they wont accecpt your reason if used

dont listen to me but bene says its so

I have a tough dog RTC and have to say, I don't mind it at all. Yes steering is a little heavier but I don't like light steering anyway. Gave experienced no loss of feeling through the steering either........ Would I buy another one? Probably not as they're a bitch to set up...

BA, it's another one if those products that you either like or hate and there's only one way to find out if its suits you

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

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Originally Posted by clunk

i have a tough dog rtc and have to say, i don't mind it at all. Yes steering is a little heavier but i don't like light steering anyway. Gave experienced no loss of feeling through the steering either........ Would i buy another one? Probably not as they're a bitch to set up...

Ba, it's another one if those products that you either like or hate and there's only one way to find out if its suits you

don't slap it, tap it!!!!

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your right clunk but the sort of country that ba plays in i dont think its the one for him

This is a very good DIY vid

http://youtu.be/llaqhUs8_yk

Especially female change room lockers!!