If ok I would like to start an anxiety thread actually. I'm a head case anxiety sufferer and would live some feedback on others ways to deal with it...lol
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If ok I would like to start an anxiety thread actually. I'm a head case anxiety sufferer and would live some feedback on others ways to deal with it...lol
Anxiety/depression......what ever, it needs to be made a sticky, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Thanks in advance.
Take care out there.
Rossco
Good idea mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Good idea AB, but I reckon BA might already have beaten you to it. ;-)
ab WHEN YOU PUT THE NEW STICKY UP CAN YOU INCLUDE THE CONTACT DETAILS OF "beyond blue" in Vic not sure of other states. It's 13 11 44 or similar
Feeling better this morning... want to go shoot?????
Maybe Winnie for getting a TD42......
It's funny (not really) how many men are affected by depression, I knew it was a lot more than people admit and the aussie attitude of not showing weakness does not help.
I dont want us blokes to turn into a bunch of sooky lala's but there has to be a way in which we as a society know how to cope and help others that are affected.
It is usually the ones closest to us that dont know how to deal with it????
My kids drive me nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plenty of bunnies down here. My rifle needs sighting in though, haven't hit a thing in ages, except with the shottie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
Cuppa
Would be happy to have a coffee and shoot some bunnies!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuppa
Men's health issues are slowly coming 'out of the closet' more and more, and being talked about - by blokes - which, in many cases, can be quite healthy.
I used to be quite reserved about lots of things, but am slowly opening up - which is helping me, too.
Thank you to everybody who has commented on and read this thread.
My prayer is that at least one person has benefited from this thread and will seek help, if need be.
If you have any doubt about your mental health, or you, your close friends and/or family have noticed a change or changes in your well being, please, seek professional help.
There is no shame in seeking professional help. I've done it. On one occasion, my wife read the 'alarm bells', and another time, I sought my own help.
We are not bad people, but sometimes we may need a bit of help to get back on track.
Take care out there.
Rossco
Well after a long read and a lot of encouraging post I am feeling like there is a lot of support out there. Maybe we Australian men aren't as closed as they say we are. Now to BloodyAussie I want to say I do know what you are going through. I want to encourage you that there is a light at the end of deep dark tunnels. A while back I myself descended into a complete state of depression, and like you, I consider myself smart enough to read the symptom, hell, I even studies psychology and counselling at uni. Non the less I got so bad that I stood on the side of Old Mandurah Bridge in full motorcycle leathers and helmet and pondered the idea of ending it. I used to say that is weak, but when you are that depressed all logic leaves you. I had lost my business, separated from my wife, lost a public position I held for 18 years, had criminal charges against me, and 99% of my friends deserted me. I felt truly alone and could see absolutely no other answer. Yet here I am 5-6 years later with a lovely wife who loves me. So how did I get I get through? I really cant pin it to anything other than people. I discovered life is about living and being involved with people. Everything else is just a distraction. Now days I don't go through anything alone. If I was to quote or say any one thing to you it would be from my namesake "The Godfather" When a man came to seek help from Don Corleone, he ask how much it would cost. THE GODFATHER said, "only your friendship"; meaning friendship is priceless. By the sound of it and this thread, you my friend have many friends.
Many, many friends.
G'day Eric,Quote:
Originally Posted by trekster
Mate, there is no such thing as rambling of a whole heap of garbage! Just talking and expressing how you feel and having someone listen is always a positive step.
Regards,
RLI
Ill tell anyone a TRUE friend never deserts their friendsQuote:
Originally Posted by the godfather
If they arent there in your time of need,like a true friend should be, there just a using parasite
True freinds are there when we need them, as we are for them ,if it doesnt work that way, time for new friends
I use the word friend loosely in a one way situation, there more users ,takers
It's not a matter of becoming sooky lalas (nothing directed at you bloody :)) it's about what women have been doing for years, talking about it what's going on with us, going to the Drs etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyaussie
We need to acknowledge what's happening and ask for help from friends, family, society and if you get the man up crap keep pushing back coz that's part of the problem, man up, big boys don't cry, we can't be vulnerable. Bulls droppings!!
If we as men can't push this stereotype back then we will be stuck in it and worse still our sons will too.
Rant over. :)
“The best way to cheer yourself is to cheer somebody else up.” - Albert Einstein
What many don't realise is that depression is a physical illness - it's not 'all in your head', although that's where the symptoms are manifest.
The various bits in your brain that do all the work are linked by synapses. The way these synapses work is to transmit signals via neurotransmitters, and the medium they use is chemical - when you are depressed, these chemicals are depleted, so the signals don't go through the way they should.
Seratonin and dopamine are the two main chemicals that need to be replaced, and there's two ways that work - anti-depressants, which don't 'make you feel good' as such but simply restore the levels of the chemicals, and exercise, which does much the same thing. One of the reasons depression is becoming more common is because of our sedentary lifestyles; lack of physical effort results in lower levels of these (and other) chemicals.
Quite simply, depression needs to be treated in the same way as you'd treat any other physical ailment. The only reason there is a stigma attached to depression is because it simply wasn't understood... I remember hearing of people having 'nervous breakdowns' and thinking that they just didn't have the ticker... how wrong I was.
The statistics are quite frankly staggering:
PROPORTION OF PEOPLE AGED 16-85 WITH A MENTAL DISORDER(a) - 2007
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...2013/02/29.jpg
(a) Selected mood, anxiety and substance use disorders
Source: National Survey of Mental Health and Wellbeing: Summary of Results, 2007 (ABS cat. no. 4326.0)
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@....30March%202009
BA, I tried to get the guts to say this in another thread but decided not to.....thanks for starting this thread mate.
I have been suffering from depression/anger for 12 years, that is how long I have been on anti-depression medication.
When I first started on the medication it was low dose but after 3 years I was on high dose and that was 8 years ago.
I have found that I still get agitated and angry very easy, but I decided to cut back on my dosage after all these years without speaking to my doctor and see what happened............I will just say that I failed and back on full strength as of 2 days ago and got a lecture from my doctor this morning.
The cause of my depression/anger is that I lost my wife to lymphoma 9 years ago after a 5 year battle.
PLEASE, go and see your doctor and have a talk to him BA.
If you want to talk mate just send me a pm with your number and I will give you a call.
This depression has just become for me all to apparent as one my sons best mates committed suicide yesterday at the age of 24, it has absolutely devastated his family and friends and has affected me as well as my son and Matty were inseparable until the young bloke moved to Perth to live with me and get away from the trouble they were getting into! Matty was a great kid with a huge grin all the time but obviously it was a cover for the real feelings he had, it's just so bloody sad to se these kids taking there own lives as it brings back the horrible feelings I had when my own daughter took her life at age 18 about 20 yrs ago. It's so sad that they feel they have no one to talk to or lean on, we all need to be more open about these sorts of things and I think this thread is good for those that need to express how they feel.
Stropp, there are no words... sorry for your loss :(
So sorry to hear Stropp, can't imagine what you and your family are going through.
I could not even pretend to know what it's like to go through something like that.... my wishes are with you and your son.
I think there is a need for a thread or sticky or something letting people know where they can get help and encourage it so people dont try to keep it to themselves.....
I myself try not to burden my wife but maybe this is not fair on her??
I have been feeling good since talking about this openly and have set a new plan in place to keep me insight of the important goals!!!!
There have been some or lots more accurately, of open, honest and heartfelt words written in this thread.
Depression is a hidden leach sucking at the lifeblood of good people, thanks to Bloody Aussie starting this we have all had a chance to face our demons and hit that bugger of a leach with the aeroguard.
Mate thanks so much, now it is openly talked about healing processes can start to fall into place.
It is with awfull sadness I read thismorning what Stropp and his family are going through today and have also had to deal with in the past.
Time is a healer but talk as in this thread is what winds up the spring in the clock.
My best thoughts go out to you all.
I can't put it any better than Macca, but Stropp, please know that MrsTea & I are thinking of you too.
Cuppa
I'm dealing with a bloke today who is having a panic attack. Talking to him he's just told me he's tried to commit suicide. The bloke looks like he's seen a ghost he looks absolutely terrified. I've just put him onto a counselor from a group called "mates in construction" gotta go and sit with him now until his boss comes to take him to a clinic
It's f@cked me up a bit actually I
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If you need to chat growler shoot me a pm
Just tap it in just tappy tappy tappy
I'll be right mate I've just never seen anyone like this I've had blokes in who have crushed their fingers off
He looked like he'd just seen the grim reaper or satan
Just a bit disturbing
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Far out that would shake anyone up a bit.
Just tap it in just tappy tappy tappy
Lend an ear or shoulde rGrowler ,some just need an outlet to Vent the old spleen , They should bring back man hugs IMO
I like many probably try to laugh my way through , but I'm not fooling anyone.
I get free Meds for my back, my back makes me depressed GOV wont pay for Meds
for depression which makes me more depressed, money doesn't grow on trees like
it used to.. Over my way they say one person a week jumps off the Ted Whitten Bridge on Western ring rd
But listening to my sons Its pretty common amongst the young.
This blokes eyes were moving independently of each other like a crab. It made me think of exorcist (not joking) we've put him onto professional help and taken him to the med clinic. Some of his coworkers suspect drugs could be involved but obviously that's not a call anyone but a doc can make
He had voices in his head and all sorts
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Thinking a trip down to Cuppa's for a bit of Vermin eradication, then the
"BIG BUNNY BAKE OFF"
My hands up, takers, anyone
MMMMMmmm Bunny done 101 ways, dribble slop dribble
all the fixings, side entree of Yabbies
Not good to hear and some good wording in previous comments.
Having PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) myself from a previous job when I was injured arresting a dirt bag and also my father as well from his time in the military, I can say it is not an easy thing to deal with and very hard on family members as well. I can say that I have been through the myriad of emotions and continue to do so, meds only help "so much" but not completely. Sometime it kicks in during the day but mostly of a night time and many a number of times i have woken up suprised that my wife has still hung around and feel sorry for her as I have absolutley no idea what happens of a night when sleeping until I find out from her in the morning.
I got locked in a fridge with about 8 dead people when I was 4.......?????
Do you think it had any affect on me???
I'll let you be the judge of that!!!
Geez, I hope that was an accident!
No accident...?
That's bizarre mate, no words really, just scary.
I don't know if this is any help but I developed a little thing to help give myself a lift if I ever got down for no apparent reason.
I would think about writing a reverse bucket list, so not what I want to do but what I've done and experienced so far in life. Concentrating only on the positive experiences I have had, and aspects of life we probably all take for granted. I try and start as far back as I can remember and begin listing things in my mind that make me realise how fortunate I've been.
For me it's not the memory of the actual experience, but rather the joy I feel for being lucky enough to have had the experience to remember (hope that makes sense). I'm sure there's a lot of us that have done things that very few other people have had the opportunity to do and when you sit back and say to yourself, "damn, I'm bloody lucky to have been able to do that" it really does give you a lift.
I'll probably write it all down one day but for now I just think about it for a bit and life seems a bit better.
@dogman. - you learned the hard way dude. Anti depressants are never ever, never ever ever to be stopped without consultation with your GP. Good on you for sharing.
@stropp - sorry to hear no one should go through what you have.
@all - you buggers! You have brought a tear to my eye (no I'm not gay! Geez the Mrs would be upset if I was :)). To hear about what you guys have gone/are going through and more importantly shared in a public forum. Good on you all and a big thanks :)
“The best way to cheer yourself is to cheer somebody else up.” - Albert Einstein
Dude ! We're trying to help and not traumatise people with images like that ! :o :)Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
“The best way to cheer yourself is to cheer somebody else up.” - Albert Einstein
And I thought we were 'friends'. Gloves are off now, pal. pmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Drew
Which ones are those ? The leather or latex MWAH ;) :) LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by DX grunt
“The best way to cheer yourself is to cheer somebody else up.” - Albert Einstein
Turns out a relative who's a natropath advised him to take saint johns wart/wort for his anxiety. Too much can affect brain function. Hopefully he'll be good to come back to work next weeQuote:
Originally Posted by growler2058
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And Winnie they are called TOGS not Speedo, Speedo is a brand. really rossco in Mental block ,mental block
that was close. better than wearing stubby shorts with no Reg Grundies, oh no lefty popped out