I had Nothing to Do with It!!Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
It's a Mongrel ;)
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I had Nothing to Do with It!!Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
It's a Mongrel ;)
it will end up being a project. i had a 350 straight gas wagon a few years ago (bought it already fitted and it was the channel 7 cars wtf) and currently have a inj 454 in a wagon. have melted 2 clutches in less than 2 yrs so am going auto. if you are setting 1 up for max torque definately go auto. massive power in a shorty is very hard to hold onto but would be heaps of fun. heaps of different cooling set up/options etc. happy to help with any questions if you need.
is the 454 in the GQ wagon in your avatar? Got any vids? That would be damn hectic to drive!
I'm actually quite interested in this thread, as I am deciding what engine I will stick in my project Patrol that I'm planning over the coming years.
However, I have never quite gotten the differences between the different engines, e.g. 350, 454 etc. Can someone please enlighten me!
Cheers!
yes it in the truck in my avatar. :) here is a vid of the burnout comp where I blew the locker and snapped the markes adaptor. it wouldnt let the clutch fully disengage so would fry the clutch in 3rd. you can see the smoke in the inner grd as we come off the line and pull 3rd. tried to pull 3rd again a bit into the skid and it smokes again. Thanks to Murray for the vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HHRh...ure=plpp_video
this is widow maker at g/house mtns in the 454.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbEpdsV31uI&feature=BFa&list=FLOa7F0aaNmKJ xcvkyptPnug&lf=plpp_video
this is my old td42t up widow maker. May it RIP. had some great times in this old girl......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbVYru6dJn4&feature=BFa&list=FLOa7F0aaNmKJ xcvkyptPnug&lf=plpp_video
the difference between a 350 and a 454 is huge torque. from my experience, being 1 350 gq and 1 454 gq. the torque of a 454 is huge, the torque curve goes straight up almost from idle. not a massive difference in HP but i will be changing that. the same torque if not more as a very nice td42t ( i have had 1 as well) but just mass power on top of that. feels like i am forever fixing it so it is going auto with a few more bits as well. dont get me wrong i only went 454 as it was a very cheap purchase as the guy needed the $$. i was VERY VERY happy with my 350, hardly ever put a spanner on it.
stuff does go wrong though. 454 before it was painted on big red. my fault.
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still drove her up after be winched back over.
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td42t same hill a bit further up. my fault.
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/z...0/Photo078.jpg
Different car makers make different engine sizes measured in cubic inches ford 351 and 303Quote:
Originally Posted by Punderhead
Holden 308, 304, 350 etc then comes the big blocks 400 plus! as said before monster torque. No replacement for displacement
the issue is also about ease of fitting in the engine bayQuote:
Originally Posted by macca86
eg 351windsors are wider than 350 chevs. 360 chryslers are wider than 351w's
engine physical mass impacts on what happens with steering boxes, auxiliaries such as alternators, compressors. it means that you have to work out whether you can still fit LPG neatly, exhaust fitout etc...
eg I had a 428 in an XB, to get it to fit nicely and allow for flex, the front suspension towers had to be skimmed an inch each.
it also means that when you go to do work on the engine you sometimes have to resort to jacking/lifting it partially or completely out to do something that you might just need to shove your hand into with a stockie.. etc....
They are terms used to describe american made junk typically they have this excuse they use it goes like this (their is no substitute for cubes).Quote:
Originally Posted by Punderhead
Basically what that means is that backward redneck americans can't build a motor to save themselves.
They need 2-3 times the cubic capacity to produce the same power output as other manufacturers.
Hence the war in iraq they need the oil to produce the fuel to keep these big guzzlers on the road.:animierte-smilies-f
LOL.... Basically nearly close to the truth. heaps of 3 tonne patrols are converting to wrx motors for efficiency. as long as you are ready to drive in low range with crawler gears and do 40km/hr down the h/way. if they keep pumping it out of the ground i will shove it down the tank. mine barely runs and sits in the shed 90% of the time so fuel economy isnt an issue. will be ordering a set of injectors from the states for just under $200 delivered that they guarantee will up my hp by 100hp ( they have my eng stats and i have a programmable comp) , will be interesting to see how much extra torque they produce. to up a td42t hp by 100hp you need to sell a kidney. currently running a torque curve that would embarress a very very good td42t.Quote:
Originally Posted by 97_gq_lwb
power is basically irrelevent. seen many a dyno princess struggle and ride clutches to get back onto the trailers. torque is the key.
power = how fast you hit the tree
torque = how far you moved it.
unleaded fuel $1.47/ litre- 17l/100 = $24.99/100 kms in a big block
diesel fuel $1.52/litre - people claim 12/100 up to 18/100 = $18.24 up to $27.36/100kms in a td42t.
these prices are from motormouths national average and consuption is from different forums, some td42t diesels were 20lt+ /100. 454 consuption is from my junk on 35's with 7 seats, fridge,recovery gear etc.
the amout of torque and power it produces is plenty more than you need and at a few bucks more per 100 kms give me a properly set up chev any day.
I have had many a teething problem with mine that nearly drove me to burn it to the ground on more than 1 occassion but at the end of the day it will be what " I " want. and for the record i loved my td42t and my rexxy but as posted previously , once you have had or been in one the really really is no substitute for cubes.!! but every one is different and maybe we should pull out of Iraq, buy camrys and all sing kumbaya around a camp fire to make the world a better place.
Definately no dis-respect or attack to you 97gqlwb, just my opinion. To big nog just do the conversion if you want, any questions just shoot me a pm and I will try and help. I have had most of the problems.
yes i have owned a big hp wrx,a standard td42, td42t,350,and a 454. the 454 once finished as i have planned will be the cream of the crop as a multipupose truck.