Hi Boagie, yep Redline is good oil but "maybe" not as good as they claim, i have gone down the path of which oils to use in both of my bikes and i put Redline (at $40 a litre) in the box of my Harley (lucky it only takes a Litre). Anyway, it didn't change any better and was no quieter than any other oil i have tried even though everyone was claiming that it would be ? I have read all the Redline tests etc and I am not knocking Redline but i think there are oils out there that do the job just as well without the added expense, as long as you change the oil/filter regularly. I use Mobil 1 V-twin full syn in the Harley, Shell full syn in the Triumph and will be using all Penrite oils in the Patrol. Just for interest sake, one oil that did make a noticable difference in the box of the Harley was Amsoil but it's not easy to get so i didn't bother continuing to use it. I usually try an oil then listen to the engine/box and see how things sound/opperate etc., mind you it's a lot easier to hear what a bike engine is doing than a Patrol engine lol. At the end of the day i think most oils out there are pretty good these days as long as you are buying a reputable brand. My old Ford EL has over 300,000km's on it and barley uses any oil and i have always run Valvoline in it at $30 for 4 or 5 litres depending whether it is on special. I have always changed the oil and filter every 10,000km's and never had a problem, been around Australia towing a van in the old girl and even though we just bought the Patrol i can't part with her.