Help deciding / buying a GU Patrol

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Originally Posted by Gav72

Thanks for tips Kallen,

We wont be towing a lot & lot a lot of extensive off road, but if the 4.2L is more reliable I'm keen for that

Thought i read something about the ZD30s having issues??

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Yea early zd30 did have its issues..
But the crd seems to be quite safe..

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Originally Posted by Gav72

Gday Mudski
Saying 3L easier to drive in the burbs, - is that just from an economy point of view - or would the missus have troubles steering it about a bit....
Thanks for the tips

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It's not about steering or 'difficulty' in driving it, both are much the same. The only difference is that the older style 4.2 is slower off the mark than the 3.0 so a slightly different approach is needed at junctions, really not a biggie.

Some might guess, I am over the crap flinging that goes on with the TD42 fan-boys against the ZD30.

Yeah, sure plenty have gone pop but look at the numbers of them out there, they have been around a long time now and still in production. I have driven plenty of TD42's and I have always enjoyed getting back into my 3L. It is way more efficient on fuel and gets the job done. City driving is quite easy with them as is the 110+ highway speeds.
Now look at the price, OMFG, the prices people are asking for them, seriously. Go buy the TB45 or TB48 if you want power, strap on a snail and go nuts. Otherwise buy a 3L and engine swap it down the track as some of the dream figures people want for TD42's leaves enough to do an LS conversion.

The ZD30 with simple mods make them strong and reliable.

There is only one TD42 I know that can pull away on me, but he has a huge snail pushing 35+ PSI into her with 12mm pump pistons. Now that is a donk worth the weekend, off-road comps it is used for.

Buy a car that suits your needs and your road testing, not what forum posts tell you. It is you that needs to use it.

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Originally Posted by LostBenji

Some might guess, I am over the crap flinging that goes on with the TD42 fan-boys against the ZD30.

Yeah, sure plenty have gone pop but look at the numbers of them out there, they have been around a long time now and still in production. I have driven plenty of TD42's and I have always enjoyed getting back into my 3L. It is way more efficient on fuel and gets the job done. City driving is quite easy with them as is the 110+ highway speeds.
Now look at the price, OMFG, the prices people are asking for them, seriously. Go buy the TB45 or TB48 if you want power, strap on a snail and go nuts. Otherwise buy a 3L and engine swap it down the track as some of the dream figures people want for TD42's leaves enough to do an LS conversion.

The ZD30 with simple mods make them strong and reliable.

There is only one TD42 I know that can pull away on me, but he has a huge snail pushing 35+ PSI into her with 12mm pump pistons. Now that is a donk worth the weekend, off-road comps it is used for.

Buy a car that suits your needs and your road testing, not what forum posts tell you. It is you that needs to use it.

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Show one post here in this thread where us td42 fan boys and crap flinging.
All of us fan boys as you put it, have expressed the merits of both motors.
The op has asked for opinions and thats what we have done. Nothing more.
Now hop off that horse and take a chill pill.

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Originally Posted by LostBenji

Some might guess, I am over the crap flinging that goes on with the TD42 fan-boys against the ZD30.

Yeah, sure plenty have gone pop but look at the numbers of them out there, they have been around a long time now and still in production. I have driven plenty of TD42's and I have always enjoyed getting back into my 3L. It is way more efficient on fuel and gets the job done. City driving is quite easy with them as is the 110+ highway speeds.
Now look at the price, OMFG, the prices people are asking for them, seriously. Go buy the TB45 or TB48 if you want power, strap on a snail and go nuts. Otherwise buy a 3L and engine swap it down the track as some of the dream figures people want for TD42's leaves enough to do an LS conversion.

The ZD30 with simple mods make them strong and reliable.

There is only one TD42 I know that can pull away on me, but he has a huge snail pushing 35+ PSI into her with 12mm pump pistons. Now that is a donk worth the weekend, off-road comps it is used for.

Buy a car that suits your needs and your road testing, not what forum posts tell you. It is you that needs to use it.

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Originally Posted by mudski

Show one post here in this thread where us td42 fan boys and crap flinging.
All of us fan boys as you put it, have expressed the merits of both motors.
The op has asked for opinions and thats what we have done. Nothing more.
Now hop off that horse and take a chill pill.

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I was gunna say WTF bought that on?

I guess that's a definite vote for the 3 litre lol.

>>>tappin from tassie

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Originally Posted by macca

I was gunna say WTF bought that on?

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Yeah kinda got me confused.

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The last of the 4.2's were 2006, so 10 years old now.
If your after a newer car the 3.0 litre is all you can get as a stock vehicle in diesel.
As others have said a common rail is the more reliable, I don't know that only going on what the folk here are saying.
Mine is a 4.2 and it is heavy, fat and thirsty, but, it is built for a job and does it well and no real gathering of bits & bites in silicon chips telling it what to do.
It was bought because of the old tech. Hopefully it can be kept going away from mechanics with diagnostic gear in the middle of some desert where your likely to find me on my holidays!
Good luck in your search and hope the folk here can help you out.

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Originally Posted by LostBenji

Some might guess, I am over the crap flinging that goes on with the TD42 fan-boys against the ZD30.

Yeah, sure plenty have gone pop but look at the numbers of them out there, they have been around a long time now and still in production. I have driven plenty of TD42's and I have always enjoyed getting back into my 3L. It is way more efficient on fuel and gets the job done. City driving is quite easy with them as is the 110+ highway speeds.
Now look at the price, OMFG, the prices people are asking for them, seriously. Go buy the TB45 or TB48 if you want power, strap on a snail and go nuts. Otherwise buy a 3L and engine swap it down the track as some of the dream figures people want for TD42's leaves enough to do an LS conversion.

The ZD30 with simple mods make them strong and reliable.

There is only one TD42 I know that can pull away on me, but he has a huge snail pushing 35+ PSI into her with 12mm pump pistons. Now that is a donk worth the weekend, off-road comps it is used for.

Buy a car that suits your needs and your road testing, not what forum posts tell you. It is you that needs to use it.

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I don't think any TD42 "fan boys" have been crap flinging, at least not in this thread anyway. If anything they have pointed out some of the negative points of TDs and positives of the ZD.

I agree having driven my old man's 3L heaps, i reckon they're a very nice car to drive and cruise beutifully, the only negative is you don't have much touque off boost so need to get them revving and ride the clutch in real tricky/steep off road stuff.

TDs in standard form are far from quick, but off road are great and are renowned for being reliable. Sure there are heaps of ZDs out there that haven't missed a beat but they are well renowned for catastrophic failures. Nothing wrong with informing someone of this potential issue in a balanced way.

Also agree, do your research (which is what this is all about) and test drive as many as possible then buy what you like. . .

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Originally Posted by macca

...and no real gathering of bits & bites in silicon chips telling it what to do.
It was bought because of the old tech. Hopefully it can be kept going away from mechanics with diagnostic gear in the middle of some desert where your likely to find me on my holidays!

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This is something that really keeps my mind at peace with the 4.2. Last thing you'd want is to be trying to diagnose something via jumper wires in the OBDII plug and figure out how to get going again if your stuck in the middle of chit creek. One of the many thing the op needs to look at.
I'm with macca. I'm old school when it comes to motors. If the user doesn't even touch the motor. Then its not going to matter either way....