Range rover roll over on deep creek?

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Originally Posted by TPC

My last two 4WD's have been auto's and I have now got a manual as the auto's scared me too much on steep downhill tracks, never liked riding the brakes.

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Having both auto and a manual, I prefer the auto for uphill control and the manual for downhill lol. Ideally I'd like an auto with reduction gears.

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Originally Posted by Clunk

Having both auto and a manual, I prefer the auto for uphill control and the manual for downhill lol. Ideally I'd like an auto with reduction gears.

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If I had kept my auto I probably would have got a torque converter lock.

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Originally Posted by TPC

My last two 4WD's have been auto's and I have now got a manual as the auto's scared me too much on steep downhill tracks, never liked riding the brakes.

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Yeh, look without getting into the whole auto/manual debate, a auto should not see you in a reversing stalled situation as shown, id rather face a uncontrolled decent "forwards" is what im trying to say.

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Originally Posted by Clunk

Having both auto and a manual, I prefer the auto for uphill control and the manual for downhill lol. Ideally I'd like an auto with reduction gears.

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Using the handbrake is a great way to add some control to a auto patrol when decending the steep stuff, does not compare to a manual, but the benefits of a auto far outway the downfalls IMO.



The truth is im not smart enough to use "three" pedals (lol)

Jeez, they were lucky...

Everyone who owns a manual 4X4 should learn the correct procedure for a stall recovery.

I am always gob smacked by the number of participants I get on 4X4 courses who have been "driving for years, know it all, just need the certificate, etc" and almost invariably haven't got a clue.

I have a few clips which I show so people can see what happens when you #$&% it up and I have added that one in there.

Once the 'point it and power it' option has failed then that is when the real 4x4 skills are required.

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Originally Posted by 04OFF

Using the handbrake is a great way to add some control to a auto patrol when decending the steep stuff

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Yep, that's what I do ;)

Far they were bloody lucky?

santa would have been all over

Very lucky , a few what ifs. My choice would my auto GU for up hill,
and any Toyota manual for down hill . They have they best low low going
its so slow you sometimes need to use the throttle to speed up the decent

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Originally Posted by threedogs

Very lucky , a few what ifs. My choice would my auto GU for up hill,
and any Toyota manual for down hill . They have they best low low going
its so slow you sometimes need to use the throttle to speed up the decent

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Someone put a muzzle/gag on TD....... You may as well sell your GUrly and just go and buy a Yota, your slowly turning your GUrly into one any way...... Hahahahaha

I think most late model fourbys now all come with down hill decent control and hill start asssist, so this may just reduce the argument for buying a manual in the future.

At some stage I doubt you will be able to buy a brand new 4x4 "without" independent suspension, I think all the electronic systems will change the way people 4wdrive, and things like lockers, solid diffs and manual gearboxes may just become a thing of the past ?

I guess only time will tell.