Drive train noise.

Did you use the same clutch with both boxes? How old is the clutch?

Can you hold out until October? Also I know another question, can you get someone to go for a drive with you to help with the diagnosis?

Well, I paid for a new, heavy duty clutch, so that shouldn't be the problem. I took the other mechanic for a short drive this morning and lo, and behold, the noise was almost inaudible. Thanks for the offer, Matt, but as for October, I didn't think my stock Trol would handle the trip planned. And I've just blown the budget anyways.

I meant more so coming and having a look for you while I'm down that way. Did they machine the flywheel at the same time? Is there much play in the slip joint in the tail shaft? Sorry about all the questions mate.

No worries about the questions, mate, you are trying to help me. I paid to have the flywheel machined, rear engine seal and gearbox spigot replaced. The second mech said the back lash was okay, and I couldn't feel any play in the tail shaft either. I think it is just age and wear. The crunch in second gear while it is cold, is now my main priority.

Ok, folks, this is where I'm at: I have my old unit in the shed. I spoke to the mech, who did the change out, and he said to try some gearbox treatment. I also had a look at the old clutch which was still serviceable, but had only about a third of its plate to go. I went to the salesman at ..... and he said before I even spoke, that he is going to refund me some cash, and I told him what the mech said. Then he gave me some Nulon gearbox treatment. I will have it put in tomorrow morning. If it doesn't work, then I will have to chase up another box.

Mudnut,

Patrol boxes can get a little hard to get into gear between 1st and 2nd - I had that on my pristine GQ that was babied along, but it never crunched.

I think that the gearbox treatment will be helpful for you, but is only masking the problem. The only other thing may be that you have the wrong weight oil, as it is cold at the moment and your oil will be thicker than in summer.

Mic

Thanks Mic, with the Nulon additive in the with the oil warm, it certainly slides into second, slightly easier, but tomorrow morning when I do the first couple of shifts into second will show if the Nulon has worked or not. Another suggestion was to run a mixture of ATF in different ratios until the crunch disappears.