Wasn't there some rule about no lights 300mm above head lights also .
They must have headaches all day changing rules to change them again and again
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Wasn't there some rule about no lights 300mm above head lights also .
They must have headaches all day changing rules to change them again and again
To try and explain how to read legislation, you would need to read associated case law alongside it. How it was written and how it was meant to be interpreted will be subject to legal challenge. New legislation is always open to interpretation (by both the prosecution and defence). District and Supreme Court case law (decisions) are binding in all courts, decisions and interpretations by Magistrates (local) are not binding in any court, that includes other Magistrates courts. If you were to fight it all the way through the court system, ie all the way through to a higher court then it would become a binding decision. That said, if the powers that be don't like the way that the umpire ruled then there would be an amendment to that legislation and the process starts again.
To answer the question, can they be mounted above the roof line? You need to read between the lines and interpret it your way but be prepared to justify your position.
This is the way I understand the below points.
• The lamps should, as far as is possible, be installed symmetrically in pairs to the front of the vehicle. ( Front ie bulbar, not no the roof which is roughly centre of the vehicle)
• If lamps are not fitted as pairs (e.g. one, three etc), they must be fitted to the front of the vehicle, symmetrically about the centre. (Front as above and in the middle)
• The lamp/s must be installed in a way that the light produced does not cause the driver of the vehicle discomfort either directly or by reflection. (Open to interpretation as to driver discomfort, but any light mounted on the roof would have some degree of reflection)
By the way when I fit my LED light it will be on the roof.
Interesting.............
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2005L03991
7.3. DRIVING LAMPS
7.3.1. Presence: Optional on motor vehicles. Prohibited on trailers.
7.3.2. Number:
7.3.2.1. Two or four.
7.3.2.2. To be used in conjunction with headlamps.
7.3.3. Arrangement
No individual specifications
7.3.4. Position
7.3.4.1. In width no individual specifications.
7.3.4.2. In height: no individual specifications.
7.3.4.3. In length: at the front of the vehicle and fitted in such a way that the light emitted does not cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly through the rear-view mirrors and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.
7.3.5. Geometric visibility
No individual specifications.
7.3.6. Orientation
Towards the front.
7.3.7. Electrical connections
The driving lamps must be able to be lighted only when the main-beam headlamps switch is in the “lamps on” position.
7.3.8. Tell tale: No requirement.
7.3.9. Others
The aggregate maximum intensity of the main-beam headlamps as specified in paragraph 6.1.9.1 of Appendix A can be exceeded with the fitment and illumination of driving lamps. Driving lamps do not have to comply with ADR 46/….
6. SUPPLEMENTARY GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
6.1. Additional lamps
6.1.1. In addition to the lamps specified in paragraph 5.16 of Appendix A, vehicles may be equipped with those lamps specified in part 7 of this rule.
6.1.2. Where the installation of equipment or accessories for operational reasons invalidates the compliance of lamps originally fitted in accordance with this vehicle standard, additional lamps must be fitted to maintain compliance.
6.1.3. Additional direction indicator, hazard warning, stop, parking, end outline marker, rear and front position lamps and rear, front and side retro reflectors may be fitted to satisfy specific safety and operational requirements. These additional lamps shall be fitted as close as possible to the maximum height of the vehicle.
6.1.4. Where additional lamps referred to in 6.1.3 above are fitted, the maximum height as specified in Appendix A for direction indicator lamps, stop lamps, parking lamps, end outline marker, rear and front position lamps and rear, front and side reflectors does not apply.
6.1.5. In addition to the main beam headlamps in paragraph 6.1 of Appendix A, a further two or four driving lamps may be installed as long as they comply with paragraph 7.3 of this rule.
Regulation No. 48
UNIFORM PROVISIONS CONCERNING THE APPROVAL OF VEHICLES WITH REGARD TO THE INSTALLATION OF LIGHTING AND LIGHT-SIGNALLING DEVICES
6.2. DIPPED-BEAM HEADLAMP6.2.1. Presence
Mandatory on motor vehicles. Prohibited on trailers.
6.2.2. Number
Two.
6.2.3. Arrangement
No special requirement.
6.2.4. Position
6.2.4.1. In width: the edge of the apparent surface in the direction of the reference axis which is farthest from the vehicle's median longitudinal plane shall be not more than 400mm from the extreme outer edge of the vehicle. The inner edges of the apparent surfaces in the direction of the reference axes shall be not less than 600mm apart. This does not apply however, for M1 category vehicles; for all other categories of motor vehicles this distance may be reduced to 400mm where the overall width of the vehicle is less than 1,300mm.
6.2.4.2. In height: not less than 500mm and not more than 1,200mm above the ground. For category N3G (off-road) vehicles*/, the maximum height may be increased to 1,500mm.
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2005L03991
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Originally Posted by 04OFF
Yep that's the link in the first post ;)
Can't have too many links (ha-ha)Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
I still wanted to add it again after, to make sure people knew light numbers have been revised to allow "odd" amounts, after this from my above post ...
7.3. DRIVING LAMPS7.3.1. Presence: Optional on motor vehicles. Prohibited on trailers.
7.3.2. Number:
7.3.2.1. Two or four.
7.3.2.2. To be used in conjunction with headlamps.
I can put it in again if you like......
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Sa...elinemay13.pdf
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LOL
Ha-ha mega, just spotted the lights in your Avatar/pic :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by megatexture
Great! Soon as its passed here in vic, vic rds will be sending me out some paper :)
They are my old lights all have been upgraded now lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 04OFF