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Maybe they don't put instructions on/in a recovery kit is for liability reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4bye4
Maybe they should recommend a course before using any equipment
But everyone's an expert out in the bush and that where the accidents happen.
If it doesnt look safe chances are it isn't, refuse the recovery and think it out
with a bit of brainstorming,
I agree TD but I have to admit when I first started driving 4WD, I probably would have thought a bull/roo bar was OK to snatch/tow on, untill someone told me. Probably not a tow ball but I might has done it if I didn't know. IMO a warning similar to that at the top of the forum page should be mandatory on all recovery kits, either on or in the box when purchased or on the strap.Quote:
If it doesnt look safe chances are it isn't, refuse the recovery and think it out
with a bit of brainstorming,
Since 2010 all Snatch Straps must be packaged with almost all of the suggestions mentioned so far... https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files...er%20guide.pdf
3 Accompanying information
(1) A motor vehicle recovery strap must also be accompanied by
a document, other than the packaging, stating the following
information written in English—
(a) a recommendation that the minimum breaking strength
of the strap should be between 2 and 3 times the
vehicle’s gross vehicle mass (GVM);
(b) advice that the strap must be suited to the GVM of the
lighter of the 2 vehicles used in the recovery process;
(c) how to use and maintain the strap.
(2) Without limiting subsection (1)(c)—
(a) the information to accompany a motor vehicle recovery
strap must state all of the following—
(i) persons intending to use the strap should consider
completing a nationally recognised four wheel
drive training course or contact a four wheel drive
club for comprehensive advice on the proper
selection and use of the strap;
(ii) the strap must not be used for lifting or
conventional towing;
(iii) persons intending to use the strap must ensure that
the strap is not damaged and is in usable condition;
(iv) the strap’s strength and stretch are reduced when
the strap is saturated;
(v) something like a recovery damper, heavy bag or
blanket must be draped over the strap during its use
to reduce any unintentional rebound of the strap;
(vi) while the strap is being used, persons situated
outside the motor vehicles involved in the recovery
process must—
(A) be kept at a safe distance (recommended as
at least 1.5 times the length of the
unstretched strap) from either of the vehicles
involved in the recovery process; and
(B) never situate themselves within the path of
the vehicle performing the recovery; and
(b) the information must also include the following—
‘WARNING—Always follow product instructions. It is
important to correctly attach the motor vehicle recovery
strap to a motor vehicle. A standard tow ball or vehicle
tie-down point is not designed for this purpose and may
result in the strap or a vehicle component detaching
from a motor vehicle and striking and seriously injuring
or killing a person. Only attach the strap to a vehicle
recovery point or device that is suitably rated for use
with the strap. Incorrect use has previously resulted in
serious injury and death.’.
Thanks ET. TBH I don't think I've ever seen any of this info sold with any strap I have seen. Apart from breaking strain and the like. I will have a closer look on Sunday at the 4wd show.
I think the link that E.T has posted should be add to the OP.
Hiya Cobber,Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
An ARB one that I was presented with after some Lectures and Training I did about 3 years ago is still in its box and has all the required warnings and product info and is also with the ones I get from from the Industry Vendor (who make them up to 400 tons rating... awesome bit of kit but you need a Forklift to rig it).
If anyone is flogging them without the Mandatory Warnings they are taking a HUGE business risk so if you spot any I'd give 'em a polite heads up.
I would almost bet you can find a few :-)
Hey @ET my apologies, I just checked the "recovery kit from Supercrap" given to me last Christmas and it does have the warnings you quote on a piece of paper at the bottom of the bag. I didn't know it was there and not very obvious but it does comply with the law.
Yeha will be having a closer look. I cannot recall ever seeing this, but like 4bye, its not real obvious to see i suppose.
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No apols needed, Cobber... and totally agree that the A.S. Packaging Standard could maybe insist on something a bit more prominent.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4bye4
Packaging is the first thing in the bin hence the requirement for the seperate pamphlet/instructions which, we all know as good aussie blokes, is usually in the bin about 2 micro seconds behind the packaging
You need to do a course to work as a dogman or rigger.
Yet any jo blow can use a snatch strap , winch or drag chain
with no accreditation, hooking two 4 ton 4x4 together.
just saying
True dat... but maybe not a totally fair comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
Yes, you need a ticket to work as a Dogman or a Rigger in Industry but equally Jo Blow will also need a ticket to operate a 4X4 and another one again to recover a 4X4 in many but certainly not all Industry or Statutory employment here in WA.