Yeah, I am licking my wounds still so will see.Quote:
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Yeah, I am licking my wounds still so will see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cremulator
]0Thats a different link, looks like an ac welder, but i think 30 years ago migs were ac and they still worked? On mild steel, no dramas.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
No way will that weld ally :)
Sorry about the double pics, cant figure out to fix that :)
This link I posted is of the exact POS. Here is the absolute best quality I could achieve. Not even close to acceptable.Attachment 82047 It won't do what it is marketed to do - end of story.
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Next level this ‘Brushless’ advancement replacement, absolutely LOVE IT :-) [emoji106][emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
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Seriously thinking policie checks should be in order for purchasing these beauties, anyone with an un-armed robbery break-in record should be completely black banned :-)
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Are you using gas or gas less there. That is the welder I have but in a 170amp. Lays an OK weld. Also. What is the material thickness there? It looks like 12mm plate or something. The 130a will struggle to penetrative that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeBee
Sorry it is a 155 Rossi. Appears to be a better model based solely on the case.
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Daz, couple of things. The 130a Rossi is an AC machine. This is a crap alternative to a DC, that you have. the DC will give better weld quality hands down, less spatter and greater controllability. The weld penetration is simply a factor of amperage, generation of a weld pool resultant on the heat directed at the weld site. The wire feed-rate is the delivery agent of the arc and the filler of the void. The plate thickness has little to do with it. These plates were maybe 8mm and they were also vee prepped. The welds simply sat on the top of the steel in essence. These welds were done using gas immersion.
On an earlier sample i did a sectional cut and the penetration was marginal at best, really cocky shit. These were the absolute best quality I could wring out of that welder, even using an argon heavy gas, not straight CO2. I could not get anywhere near what you show in your images. Gasless was a straight out failure. I went back to the Rossi agents regards tech assistance to improve the outcome and got no help at all. Then, they argued the toss about the validity of the info in their advert, which was incorrect and misleading in the main, so for me, I don't think I can bring myself to support their product line again, at any stated cost of perception of quality. maybe if I knew I was buying a machine with significant limitations i would own the issue, but there was so much incorrect info furnished by them, waste of my time and general dismissal of there being an issue, well, GOOD BYE ROSSI.
I am sure a skilled tradesman who does this task every day, will find the sweet spot. the guy who bought it is a high pressure vessel welder, and we wanted a small unit for light welding of exhaust systems. his skillset is better suited to this machine than mine. If i got the quality you presented i would have been happy.
I am going to go with a CIGWELD machine moving forward, most likely the unit mentioned earlier. At circa$750 its an expensive bit of gear to sit under the bench, but my CIG Professional Arc Welder saw 30 odd years service, at times quite brutal and duty cycle overloading and it survived.
Fair call mate. Just after those photos I ran out of wire damn it. Oh I have a spare! Winner. Turns out it was unlabled and was the Gasless wire that came with the unit. OMFG. PUSS. 2cm of weld and I was done. Junk. Went a bought a new real. The gassless is going in the bin.
Don't throw it out. You need to reverse the polarity when using gasless.Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
Matt, this would be the case if it was a DC welder. It is an AC welder and according to ROSSI isn't necessary, despite having been told by 2 of their sales people exactly the same thing, 'change the polarity - how do i do that - here are some photos of what you do', so this and that, made no difference. Also, ROSSI told me the machine is supplied from the factory configured for gasless, no wait, its configured for gas, no, its gasless, anyway you don't need to do anything, its a ripper machine, and being AC, doesn't matter. They lost me at that point, as really, for the price point and the number of times I would have used it, it suited my needs. Now, as some things align, my brilliant CIGWELD arc welder went to heaven last week, so I am without my go to heavy duty cycle welder, so the little solid state inverter arc welder I have will suffice until the CIGWELD unit arrives. Been quite frustrating in the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
LOL. Its funny Darren, we have a gasless unit on site and we drag it out from time to time when its a simple pain to get gas bottles upstairs into the plant where there is no lift. We have a pool of boilermakers from Dawsons and to be honest, they could probably weld using chopsticks they are that good. I have seen welds laid by guys up there on SS316/SAF2507 and 904L, acid affected as well, that are absolute works of art, verticals, overheads, just head shaking unbelievable. My little 24/36V Rediwelder runs flux core and it lays a good bead, but dragging the batteries out of the truck to do it, nope, not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunnerTD
Ha! Yes I remember that...... now. Hahaha.Quote:
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Good to know you are lurking mate. I hope life is great for you.
Electrically & Electronically challenged, may need some advice again pretty please NP.com.au Team [emoji120][emoji106]
We bought this old 3 Phasey generator for off grid paid yard work plans a year or so ago for a steal and won’t be using it down there anymore.
Have brought it on home for storage and pondering whether it could be worth fixing up/commissioning for two home issues in the hills?
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1) Grid power is horrific up here and underground 150m pole power to my shed sees a max of 180amp settings on my Mig welder for thick plates although is capable of 250amps :-(
2) Regular day/week long power outages to the house occur, windy nights & lightning we’re living like the 1900’s at times :-)
Would it be worthwhile getting this old beast up and running to power a serious welder on weekend warrior tasks and doubling up as a backup for converter boxy 2 phase house running in times of need?
Scratching my head thinking a decent diesel backup genset for house and smaller diesel powered welder for shed but somehow nuffy thinking too that it’s already possible off this already purchased donk maybe?
Cheers Mark!
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That looks like a Beast mate. @mattfew; will be all over that brother. It would be awesome if you can rig it up on an Auto start relay so it just starts like a UPS system. Killa. Also, instant 3 phase sounds like a very very cheap way to get 3 phase at home!Quote:
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I’ve given up on poor old busy @matfew these days mate, been working under a dark lightless shed mezzanine for an eternity now awaiting [emoji23][emoji106]
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Yeah poor bugger is getting hammered. Spends a heapnof time in Gippsland. I was able to wrangle a day to get some lights in the shed, still a temporary connection but way better than an extension lead and split to 4 separate distribution boxes. Not ideal. I felt bad knowing he was away so much but needing him for another day away from his family. Killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
I reckon he can guide you with some options for that jigger though mate.
We speak regularly, off Facey platforms, voice to voice [emoji23]
He’s currently working/testing our Alaskan mill out NE rural allowed on a coupe of his own but always makes it back to family nightly[emoji106][emoji106]
Seriously wish I had that ADHD for 2hrs nightly sleeps again too, LEGEND [emoji123][emoji106][emoji106]
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bahahaha I keep thinking of it bro. I will have a weekend pencilled in very soon for you. Winter wood rush is over. Cattle work next weekend I think but should be able to work something.
As for the gen we can work some magic with it. Wont be simple to do but possible. You don't have 3 phase at home do you? It's very possible to setup. Auto start might be tricky but with the right controller its possible.
I'll give ya a call tomorrow to work out.
Family First Old Mate [emoji106][emoji106]
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Mark, I have been down this path with a project at the mine when I was there the first time. What looked simple ended up causing some issues in the details.
1) the generator you have is incomplete or do you have the radiator and an aux fuel tank for it? You may also be up for containment bund in case the fuel tank ruptures, and a fire suppression system - again I don't know what the local regs are for this. I had to install a triple brick wall 3m high and an IR detector for hot spot detection and a sprinkler system, but it is a minesite and was located immediately adjacent to a brand new medical clinic i built so had to be as safe as possible.
2) is its output 415V only or does it already have 240V take-off? I am guessing you might want the flexibility of a 3 phase outlet perhaps, then acouple of higher amperage GPO's ?
3) voltage brown-out detection is fairly mature technology so that would be easy - integration of this power supply into your house supply may be trickier regards local regs - I am not an electrical engineer, and doing things on a mine site are totally different, so we had to have an entirely new, stand alone sub board that fed into the existing 'house board', and then ran into earthing trips between the two systems - something called an MEN link from memory as the potentials of the genset to earth and the 'house ' to earth were different - its a while ago, but it was resolved eventually. The genset i used was a 10kva 240V genset, so we didn't have to stuff around with taking load off individual phases. I think it was around 12K from memory.
4) you have already mentioned the feed from the underground service being a bottleneck, so I would think you may be up for an upgrade if the cable is not up to the rated capacity of the genset. Location of the genset closest to the highest draw would make sense, so either way you are going to have a long cable run, but then you might say the most frequent use is for house power loss as against the powering of the welder.
5) I am wondering if this is best resolved via a conversation with a remote power grid supplier, simple candid discussion, maybe some opportunity to get them involved down the track in some way, but I would have the length of run from the house in hand, the incoming power capacity you have now and what the size of the cable is from house to shed, and breaker sizes in that sub board, the config of the portable unit also, on hand so it builds a quick and dirty picture. They may come back and recommend the genset as shed only for example? Or if hunting for work come out and give you a proposal. Either way, I think there is going to be a bit of money needed to spend. Not easy.
The capacity of the unit looks good though if you can make it work - really does need a sparky to appraise and resolve though. I am lucky at my place as have 3 x 80amp supplies to the house, so my garage has 80amp 415 which is broken down to 40amp sockets and then a big 240V outlet for the welder as well. When the estate transformer used to go out in the early days, we only ever lost 1/3 of the house, whilst the rest of the neighbor's lost every 3rd home - bit like a cheshire cat in 45 degC with the lights and a/c blaring!
Just saw Matty's reply, so leave it to him.
Green Wedge of Outer Limits Melbourne Rural Hippy Border Mate [emoji23]
Zero chance of decent power being drilled under our pre-loved gold mining creeks to feed only a few small shed sooks :-)
We take shiit into our own diesel hands up here :-)
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You win, once again, can't decipher what you are saying, but as long as it makes sense to you, thats all that matters!!!!Quote:
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E=MC2
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Epidemiologically, greasy arse C-19 spurs can’t stick to diesel ridden hills folks....zero cases from the start up here.....commence Banjo twang [emoji23]
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MODS - where are you, lunatic got past the firewall I am guessing..........Quote:
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Have been trying to get our sourced handheld 25Watty UHF’s from China going, any noticeable radiation affects :-) ?
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Was working the wee hours on this too. Think I started the cut around 6:30pm sunday "arvo" haha. I know I rolled in home at nearly 10pm sooo.... Was a busy day on the farm then back up to this log and then home.
It works well. Now to build myself one so I can punish it hahaha. I am chasing some parts for me old Stihl 048 to get it fired up again.
I do think of both you guys @mudrunner and @MB. MB I have been really naughty to you. I will schedule some time for it very soon. My biggest problem is transporting everything I need there. Might have to steal ya beastly van 1 arvo n pickup the gear from bayswater I need.
bahahaha its a tad sad I understood everything MB said there..... HAHAHA
I had that above reply sitting and forgot to press send and come back to a heap of replies lol.
Peebee mine site spec vs electrical spec is MUCH different. We have been going through it a lot at work lately. Mining even has a whole aus standard above and beyond AS3000 (electrical standards we work to).
Basically in VERY simple terms the gen can be hooked up. Has nothing to do with incoming as your not allowed to pump any pwer back into the grid with a gen.
So pending what he wants to do exactly with it, it can for sure be connected to the main switchboard but will need local circuit breaker to the machine and a change over switch. The MEN your talking about is another issue. Nothing much to do with the generator as the MEN link is in main switchboard most of the time.
Remote start might be very hard on this machine. Usually they need some sort of running pickup also to stop cranking. Eg RPM over whatever the startmotor can supply but it is possible. There are controllers out there but likely go over Markies budget on this.
Quick easy basic connection is not super complex.
I have actually been looking into it for Nicco to recently along with a setup for my own house.
Chillax Brother, only stirring the pot as you know too well, enjoy LIFE :-)
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Haha yep I figured you had just been flat knacker mate. Good to read you. Sounds like mask needs something similar to my needs? Albeit with a bigger Mudder fckr gennie lol.
And yes Phil for the record I understand all of what mb said also, get with the times mate lol, time to dust up on your chistmashillian
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Thanks dear friends, I have organised a triple lobotomy with my local vet for next week, put up with me until then.
Just got a chainsaw chain grinder. Had a few chains destroyed by hitting hidden nails and rocks inside trees and figured I'd have a crack at repairing them with this.
Completely destroyed the first chain, sort of destroyed the second and did a good job on the third. Was only cheap, just under $100 delivered from Edisons.
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You're a bloody RedNeckQuote:
Originally Posted by MB
I have the same unit. I find it works well but I still give the chain a quick touch up with a file when I fill up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
Problem with filing is that you can’t do exactly the same movement left and right so I run the chain on the machine when it starts to not cut straight.
I have only ever used a file and have gotten pretty good at it. Will continue to do that exclusively until a chain gets rocked out and the grinder will be for repair work.Quote:
Originally Posted by jff45
If I repair 3 chains then the machine will have paid for itself.
Next time I need to buy new chains I will buy a roll of Stihl chain and a spinner/breaker.
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nice mate. i picked up an ozito one on the weekend from bunnings. on clearance to $20. i figured if it was a piece of shit i havent lost much money. cant wait to get my shed up and give it a spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
Yeah wow that's cheap! Just make sure you are using the correct size disc for your chain.Quote:
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I don't use my chainsaw very often, I've got two chains when one is stuffed I'll drop it off and $12 later it Sharpe.
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Here is my trusty chain sharpener, had it 25 yrs, invaluable to have, simply stack all the chains up and sharpen the lot at the one time, i have 3 different size chains, however the same wheel is used for all of them, I am going to buy a diamond disk so i can do a carbide tipped chain i have as well.Attachment 82269
I just use a rat tail file on my chains. I watched Rossco do it a few times and thought to give it a crack myself. Got it down pretty good now.