Tigerz11 banned from Melbourne 4x4 show

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Originally Posted by Plasnart

So dont want to distract from this thread but i gotta side with drew's earlier comment here. Yes this place is a laugh a minute and always has been since its inception, but it has lowered it's tone gradually over the last year or so. Thats not necessarily such a bad thing, ffs i as much as most of you don't want a straight-laced stick in the mud community here. But I think the calibre of humourists here are better than needing to resort to racial-based humour. You guys might think i'm being a bit pc but I personally just don't think it's all that witty or funny.

Anyway you can flame away now, I'm big and ugly enough to take a hit for my point of view.

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If your big and ugly, we must have the same mother :)

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Originally Posted by nissannewby

Yep and as we speak I am manufacturing these you beaut hid spotties just as good as some of the best and are gonna market them well :). I managed to get a hold of an original and took all measurements specs etc and will copy that directly :) lmao

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Keep the noise down in your yard, it's after 10pm :)

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Originally Posted by Plasnart

Cooked another killer spit out bush last weekend. Where were you newby?? Anyway enough hijack back to the thread. :)

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I just check my letter box and my inbox..... My invite must have been stolen mate!!??? WTF!

were Tigerz & Roo systems banned for their products - and a prevailing attitude of everyone is UN-Australian if you dont support them & their product?
- or a different reason all together?????


just asking, as NO ONE has specified WHY they are Banned

methinks tis just cheap advertizing

cheers

Both Roo and Tigerz could also be banned if there is another rival media/magazine partner involved (ACP, 4wd TV) who has paid for exclusive rights to the event.
That would be the commercial reality as a result of the respective partnerships with EMG.
Copying other manufacturers products probably wouldn't help the organisers look the other way either.....


Tip tip tip......tap tap tap....

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Originally Posted by Great Southern Camping

Yep. In law its called "origin of concern" - meaning that in a situation (in a legal sense) of reputed insult with intent and/or malice, the supposed intent or malice (racial taunts, slurs, insult, etc) can only "truly" be determined by the again supposed recipient - that is, if someone says you're being racist, only those that the intended comment is supposedly against can make a determination as to the level (if any) of racial discrimination ...

My point (if there is one! lol) is that whilst you may find the comments offensive as per others, it is only judged by those who are in a position of "origin" to actually determine it as derogatory or offensive. Using the basis of we are an international forum, and subsequently there 'could' be a viewing member from the other side of the discussion who finds it offensive, isn't really a cause for cessation of the behaviour.

That all said, if you, Plassy and/or others found it offensive in a general moral or ethical view, then for that I apologise to you, and hope you all see the good humour (good taste or bad) for which it was intended.


Scotty (Bigrig)

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Go to bed already :p

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Originally Posted by Bigcol

were Tigerz & Roo systems banned for their products - and a prevailing attitude of everyone is UN-Australian if you dont support them & their product?
- or a different reason all together?????


just asking, as NO ONE has specified WHY they are Banned

methinks tis just cheap advertizing

cheers

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It's still not clear if they were banned or refused vendor/display entry

At the end of the day people don't care where its made or who's selling it they just want to save a dollar they don't have in the first place! Every one in business knows the big boys don't play fair and they don't like to be undercut, i know blokes from the spare parts industry to tow truck drivers at different levels of the spectrum that have been stung, 1 towy i know thats pretty much in control of a part of melbourne chucks a darky that hard if a car gets picked up in his area by another mob will have their license revoked. The guys in spare parts have lost their suppliers coz of the likes of Bursons, Repco etc where being under cut that hard their trade price was 3 times as much as the retail of the spare parts store, hell i even lost a job for $10 even tho my competitor doesn't do 50% of what we do!!

What i'm getting at is people want to pay less for cheap inferior items even if the brand name will last 3 times as much, and that hurts the big boys !! As far as these guys getting banned, obviously more then one vender at the show complained about them so instead of competing they got rid of the competition ( business is ruthless ) and the thorn in the side is gone!!

Tigerz stuff from what i can understand 1 in 5 works and pretty good too, so that 1 will refer another 5 or 10 and the process begins again...

The consumer sometimes doesn't understand what's involved in a quality job, just the end $ or the $ in a quote. A good example is timber fencing. Quotes vary from quality to sub standard. I can use poor timber, dig a hole 200mm, use a 1/3 bag post filler and give the consumer a better quote than quality timber 600mm hole and full bag of post filler. Not knowing what quality is, they will generally go for the cheap quote. I lose out too many times, I'm out of business and the shonky's remain and everyone complains about poor quality and fondly remembers the good old days!

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Originally Posted by gaddy

Agree that competition is needed , but it has to like for like in quality , why hasn't someone done a crash or vibration test on bars for all suppliers , same with winches , put them on a test rig load them up and run them over and over to see who dies first , an honest comparison including back up service . and if it was done by a major market player all the better ,this would clear the air , a well informed customer is a repeat customer , I choose the name brand on major items bars etc purely on their back up service and RND and that they comply to ADR in the event of a major accident . just my 2 bobs worth

Steve

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Allan at piranha off road has tested these winches and he has built him self a winch dino to so he can really test the winches out. I was there when he did one of the test with the tigers11 and it got that hot that it melted the winch rope. At the end of the day winch are not winches and you need to talk to the professionals to make shore you get the right one for your needs