Depression

Hey Jonathan, I'm just catching up on this thread. Sorry to hear the news about your mum, but like TD said, you really were lucky to have the opportunity to be there & to say what you needed to say. My mum died last September on the other side of the world. The legal crap will no doubt be a pain in the arse, but further down the track I expect that it will be largely forgotten, & importantly what will remain will be the fact that you were able to reach 'closure' with your mum.
The detached feeling you described is perfectly normal, as are a huge range of responses, everyone is different, & there is no right or wrong way to be or to feel at this time.
All the best
Cuppa & MrsTea.

@ Od I've had heaps of those Facet joint injections with varying degrees of success.
three spinal taps, not good, The nerve ends burnt off, you name it I've had it minimum twice.
Originally I had a double Steffi fusion the went wrong. I'll put pic of hardware used, the bolts are just that bolts
maybe 5/16th thick and 3" long. You'll be right with the injection

This week l lost my Uncle to depression at the age of 46. He had suffered with it for a long time and then it got really bad. My aunt and him were going to counselling she had him on a mental health program and he also was on medication. When he took his medication he was doing well and then when he felt better he stopped it. My Aunt had spoken to his Mental health Carer and said that she wanted him admitted into hospital as he was not doing very well they said they deemed him fit! That was on the Monday and two days later he is no longer here. All I am trying to say is when you have depression most people put up blocks so know one knows what is going on in your life except maybe your wife or vice verser. Please talk to someone or call beyond blue or any other helpline and seek your doctor for advice. In Australia there is not a lot of money to help people in our mental health system and it fails!!!
As I have gone through depression myself it is the most hardest thing l feel l have ever combated and everyday is a new day but by seeking help and the right tools you can do your best to combat it.
** All I am trying to say is speak up and find away of getting help.
Thanks
Tan, KR missus

Yep gotta agree mate depression is very difficult, I had it and anxiety when I first bought my business as it was very hard to keep things afloat and I had to put all my savings and sell most of my toys to keep trading but with help and perseverance I got out of the hole and even though I'm ok now I wonder where I would be now if not for the help I received. Keep moving forward Jonno and even though it takes time you will get there mate and Tan (mrs KR) my sympathy to you and the family as well.

To Tan and family, my deepest sympathies for your loss.

To OD, I hope any treatment given you is effective, and that you heal quickly.

Evo, if you are lurking in the shadows, please let me know how you are fairing.

Lurking in the shadows...
Must admit you aren't completely wrong there.
Just felt like stepping back for a bit.

Sorry to hear about you losses. Leaves me speechless. My thoughts are with you.

Evo

Wow, good to know I'm not alone, on a lighter note, I bet Cruiser drivers are more depressed ;)

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Wow, I bet Cruiser drivers are more depressed ;)

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lol too true

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Wow, good to know I'm not alone, on a lighter note, I bet Cruiser drivers are more depressed ;)

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I don't know... With the list of dramas I've been having with my GU, I'm not so sure...

Although, I would still rather fix the Troll than buy a Tojo...

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This week l lost my Uncle to depression at the age of 46. He had suffered with it for a long time and then it got really bad. My aunt and him were going to counselling she had him on a mental health program and he also was on medication. When he took his medication he was doing well and then when he felt better he stopped it. My Aunt had spoken to his Mental health Carer and said that she wanted him admitted into hospital as he was not doing very well they said they deemed him fit! That was on the Monday and two days later he is no longer here. All I am trying to say is when you have depression most people put up blocks so know one knows what is going on in your life except maybe your wife or vice verser. Please talk to someone or call beyond blue or any other helpline and seek your doctor for advice. In Australia there is not a lot of money to help people in our mental health system and it fails!!!
As I have gone through depression myself it is the most hardest thing l feel l have ever combated and everyday is a new day but by seeking help and the right tools you can do your best to combat it.
** All I am trying to say is speak up and find away of getting help.
Thanks
Tan, KR missus

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My deepest condolences on the loss of your uncle. The one thing I have always said, if you need to talk, there is always someone to listen. Sadly, this type of situation is one I have had to become all too familiar with over my years and one that has led me to battle the beauracracy and stigmatism that is mental health.

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This week l lost my Uncle to depression at the age of 46. He had suffered with it for a long time and then it got really bad. My aunt and him were going to counselling she had him on a mental health program and he also was on medication. When he took his medication he was doing well and then when he felt better he stopped it. My Aunt had spoken to his Mental health Carer and said that she wanted him admitted into hospital as he was not doing very well they said they deemed him fit! That was on the Monday and two days later he is no longer here. All I am trying to say is when you have depression most people put up blocks so know one knows what is going on in your life except maybe your wife or vice verser. Please talk to someone or call beyond blue or any other helpline and seek your doctor for advice. In Australia there is not a lot of money to help people in our mental health system and it fails!!!
As I have gone through depression myself it is the most hardest thing l feel l have ever combated and everyday is a new day but by seeking help and the right tools you can do your best to combat it.
** All I am trying to say is speak up and find away of getting help.
Thanks
Tan, KR missus

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Wow mate. Deepest sympathy for you and the Family in this time.

It does help to talk.
Ill be the first to admit my issues are pretty minor, many more are worse Off than me. But opening up to the wife has opened up both our eyes..
The other day she said yes to 35" tyres!!! Not that I'm getting them but it nice to know my wife now appreciates some of my wants..

Anyway.. Were all here to chat..

I feel for your mate.
And I'm really sorry about your uncle.

We are all human, we do break down at times. challenges and stresses of everyday life can
accumulate over time to depression.
As a long time sufferer of PTSD, I do know how difficult it is to cope with depression.
You couldn't be in a better place to discuss these personal demons that we all deal with onetime or more in our life.
Some of us struggle with depression, throughout our everyday life, and that is even harder.
And you couldn't have picked up a better hobby to get away from unwanted demons in life.
Getting into fourby's actually saved my life, even though my SWMBO says I take silly risks going solo most of the time. :)
There's nothing like being in the middle of a nature reserve where you can close your eyes and listen to the music of trees, birds and the wind. I do meditate on it at times.
If I've interpreted your nickname correctly, you'll do a better job at bouncing back to full spirit and joy in no time, than anybody I know, including myself.
I agree with you totally, friends(or family) don't understand most of the time. They do the best they can, I think.
Fact is that they aren't the best people to talk about your most inner personal issues at many times.
Just being close make it difficult for them to understand, simply because they already have formed a rigid picture about who you are by being close to you and have trouble stepping down of that picture to see you from distance, as a human being, not as an uncle, dad, brother, son, etc. A humanistic therapist can do a better job in that case.
I myself, talk to my cat sometime( weird thing to do), even though I know she hasn't gota clue what I'm talking about.
Dogs are even better. When there's nobody around, start talking to the bastard and see how he's staring at your and trying his best to understand you. Even though they can't understand you verbally, they can feel you better than another human being in many occasions, and I'm not kidding about it. This is why we have cats and dogs as part of our family, not monkeys. :)

If you are into reading, I would love to recommend you a book that affected me positively.

"The Power of Now" Author - Eckhart Tolle

It's about spirituality and deals a lot with 'real' cause of depression, and pretty simple book to read.
It's not a religious book. Eckhart Tolle suffered suicidal depression all his life, until he found a 'cure'.

Take care mate.

P.S. You can borrow it from library or I can send a pdf copy. I read books,magazines on my tablet(pdf format). find it lot easier.

P.S. While you having cuppa, think over and over about "Cuppa"s advice. He's more qualified than anybody to give you sound advice.

Half an hour and $450 at the rheumatolist for him to confirm I have A. S. (ankylosing spondylitis). Now got to take Sulfasalazine (what ever the fork that is, some sulphur based drug) 4 times a day, for the foreseeable future as well as staying on anti inflammatories and pain killers, might just smoke weed instead. Weekly blood tests to make sure the drugs aren't forking with me liver and kidneys. Then go back and see him in 3 months time...... Happy days.

Anyway, can't grumble. Still alive and have my family, my GQ and a job.

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Half an hour and $450 at the rheumatolist for him to confirm I have A. S. (ankylosing spondylitis)

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Sounds like some type of sexual activity!

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Sounds like some type of sexual activity!

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Hahaha it might have been worth it if it was bud ;)

i watched this video and i had an apiphany and it made me realise that i was really hurting my wife with the way i was acting recently and the i needed to change so i went back and saw my doctor and i am now in the process of coming of the anti-deppressants i was on and see how i go and may end up on another type of medication will have to wait and see, but i have come really close to getting a divorce because of the adverse affect of the medication was having on me and the way i was treating my family but i am lucky enough to have halted that train for the moment and now we have to wait a month to see if i can release myself from these drugs and get my moods and emotions back in check.


The Black Dog

please have a look at it, it explained me down to a T

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My deepest condolences on the loss of your uncle. The one thing I have always said, if you need to talk, there is always someone to listen. Sadly, this type of situation is one I have had to become all too familiar with over my years and one that has led me to battle the beauracracy and stigmatism that is mental health.

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Regards,

RLI & FAMILY

How much can I fucking take....................... mum dies ... try to rebuild my car and wifes car gets stolen..... and a tonne of other shit...........fucking sick of it................. I feel I am going to snap!!!!!!!!

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How much can I fucking take....................... mum dies ... try to rebuild my car and wifes car gets stolen..... and a tonne of other shit...........fucking sick of it................. I feel I am going to snap!!!!!!!!

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Geeze mate. That's not good. Hope they catch the ass holes.

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How much can I fucking take....................... mum dies ... try to rebuild my car and wifes car gets stolen..... and a tonne of other shit...........f*cking sick of it................. I feel I am going to snap!!!!!!!!

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Hey Jonathan, that's f*cked mate, don't let it get you down mate, better times ahead.

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How much can I fucking take....................... mum dies ... try to rebuild my car and wifes car gets stolen..... and a tonne of other shit...........fucking sick of it................. I feel I am going to snap!!!!!!!!

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geebus mate thats bullshite i hope things improve and that you find the wifes car quick and in good condition, mate thats a lot of crap going on! take a breath mate is the car insured? does it cover the hire of another one? lets hope it gets better.

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Hey Jonathan, that's fucked mate, don't let it get you down mate, better times ahead.

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G'day MudRunner,

Protocols mate, please do not use the word f*cked as this is a friendly family orientated forum, you can say Farkkked or FFFFFFFarked.

PS, i do not want Bob to loose respect with you. lol

Regards,

RLI

Geez Jonathan, I'm really sorry to hear that. Not much I can say other than hope it all gets resolved. Certainly some low life's around, Karma will get them mate.
Take care and look after yourself.

Jack

With all the life-changing things that are going on at the moment, it is easy to let it all get on top of you. Grab your family and give them a big group hug. Tell them you love them and sigh deeply. (I know,we don't do this stuff, because we are manly men!!).

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How much can I fucking take....................... mum dies ... try to rebuild my car and wifes car gets stolen..... and a tonne of other shit...........fucking sick of it................. I feel I am going to snap!!!!!!!!

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Sorry to hear about everything mate.
Makes my blood boil when I hear of these pricks pinching other peoples gear.
Hope things get better mate.
Would like to tie the bastards to the bullbar and go driving out bush.
If you need to vent or chat, PM me bud.

Evo

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G'day MudRunner,

Protocols mate, please do not use the word f*cked as this is a friendly family orientated forum, you can say Farkkked or FFFFFFFarked.

PS, i do not want Bob to loose respect with you. lol

Regards,

RLI

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LOL. Sorry Paul,

To be honest mate i was having a very bad day myself and dont recall writing that like that?? i must have! Crazy! Will fix them all now.

Not too worried about Bob ;) , Google hates it though!

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i watched this video and i had an apiphany and it made me realise that i was really hurting my wife with the way i was acting recently and the i needed to change so i went back and saw my doctor and i am now in the process of coming of the anti-deppressants i was on and see how i go and may end up on another type of medication will have to wait and see, but i have come really close to getting a divorce because of the adverse affect of the medication was having on me and the way i was treating my family but i am lucky enough to have halted that train for the moment and now we have to wait a month to see if i can release myself from these drugs and get my moods and emotions back in check.

The Black Dog

please have a look at it, it explained me down to a T

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Yes "The Black Dog" s a very powerful and enlightening video. I have shared this with my Dad and it has helped him over the last few months. He gets what the problem is, it should be compulsory viewing.

I'll have to watch it I think..

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I'll have to watch it I think..

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+1

Don't know how I missed this...

Evo

Very enlightening and makes you realise things that you try to convince yourself aren't so.
Might have to mention something to the MOF and to my doc next visit...

Evo

Very well put.
I'm currently going threw work issues, have been moved off shift for standing up for my rights over Christmas, but can't do shoit as there saying Its a "rotation plan", that seems to only affect me..
Seeing that sorta stuff just drives home the fact that we shouldn't let it control us..
I did for a minute today while on the job, I slipped fell and what turned out to be a graze and swelling could have been broken bones.

I think I need to seriously look at these guys..
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yeh mate you cant let em trample on you but you cant go because of the house, stuck between a rock and a hard place as the saying goes, enjoy your time on dayshift mate in fact let slip that was what you were hoping would happen and they may stick you back on nights :) as punishment.

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yeh mate you cant let em trample on you but you cant go because of the house, stuck between a rock and a hard place as the saying goes, enjoy your time on dayshift mate in fact let slip that was what you were hoping would happen and they may stick you back on nights :) as punishment.

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Haha. Well wife is looking a a job now.. So if it doesn't happen soon then it won't be happening lol.

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Half an hour and $450 at the rheumatolist for him to confirm I have A. S. (ankylosing spondylitis). Now got to take Sulfasalazine (what ever the fork that is, some sulphur based drug) 4 times a day, for the foreseeable future as well as staying on anti inflammatories and pain killers, might just smoke weed instead. Weekly blood tests to make sure the drugs aren't forking with me liver and kidneys. Then go back and see him in 3 months time...... Happy days.

Anyway, can't grumble. Still alive and have my family, my GQ and a job.

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That's tough condition to deal with mate. I do agree with you, in case you're serious about weed.
There's been enough studies done with enough trials to prove weed does work in certain inflammatory pain conditions.
Do some research on "Medical Marijuana".
Mine hasn't been anywhere near that bad to get into weed, but I have to tell you, strong pain killers stuffed up my stomach, gut and perhaps my colon as well(God know what else). I got Barrett's syndrome, most likely thanks to those heavy pain killers that I've been taking to kill the pain of the shoulders, neck, back and knees. I rarely take them these days, most of the time simply put up with the pain. It is not easy, but better than killing myself slowly with the heavy pain killers. Strong pain killers can kill you long before weed can kill you, depend on how many of them you have to take every day. They are bloody addictive as well, no different than alcohol or smoking. Once you started, pretty hard to stop taking them. If I had access, Medical Marijuana, I would've gone for that. Weed is lot less addictive than alcohol or smoking as I see, but I can be wrong about that. I think it's different from person to person.
weed does far less damage to the body and mind than those concoctions of heavy pain killers, in my opinion.
But, always better to do your own research, and get few different professional opinions.

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Very well put.
I'm currently going threw work issues, have been moved off shift for standing up for my rights over Christmas, but can't do shoit as there saying Its a "rotation plan", that seems to only affect me..
Seeing that sorta stuff just drives home the fact that we shouldn't let it control us..
I did for a minute today while on the job, I slipped fell and what turned out to be a graze and swelling could have been broken bones.

I think I need to seriously look at these guys..
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Those two books look like a life saver.
Where do you usually get them from, mate?
Thanks

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Those two books look like a life saver.
Where do you usually get them from, mate?
Thanks

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Got them as gifts, but any good book store should have some decent books

$53 on eBay atm

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Today my mum passed away... she waited for me to arrive and passed soon after.

I had a cry but still feel some what detached ?

Waiting for my wife to get home..........

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I'm really really sorry to hear that mate. Give yourself enough time to heal from the loss. We all have to go through it one day.
It took me few years to really accept my mom's passing as a reality of life. I did get there in the end.
Life is good. Remember that.
My sincere apologies for the late reply.
Take care

I went to a funeral for a young bloke today who committed suicide. He was only 18.
For f#cks sake if youre in that bad dark place there are so many people to speak to.
Was evident with the amount of people that were there today.
Theres hundreds of people grieving tonight for a young lad who thought no one cared

Edit: So So Sad

Far to young to know what they are doing ..... so sad mate.

So sad indeed mate, may the gathering be a reminder to some of his other friends that we as a community do care and they can reach out to a friend or a stranger.

RIP