Best bang for buck tyres

So I've been looking into getting some new tyres , I called around today and got some quotes on some bf Goodrich km2 muddies and after a bit of research I've started to rethink them, only for price reasons as I don't really wanna spend 2k on tyres.. so I went into eBay and found some cooper Str pros for 1500 but that's for four not five like I was quoted with the bfg , so I've had bfg before and I really like them there a great tyre but I've never owned a set of coopers but I've always heard good things.. so what should I buy? Best bang for buck tyre? I don't want something I'm gunna have to replace in 20'000kms or something where the side wall fails .. what's everyone got and why? http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum.../2017/09/3.png


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Sorry everyone! I didn't realise I posted this in auto electrical 😅

G'day Brodie mate!
I really dislike bad mouthing companies products but feel it necessary to share my hopefully one off past experience with the ST's.
Decided about 10 years ago that I'd been too brand loyal to BFG with their KM1 series so gave the ST's a trial on my old GU leafy ute. Within 30,000ks they were dangerous having heavily worn out with sidewall and tread bubbles etc.. So much so I was given an agreed credit of 5/8th left on my 80,000km guarantee towards a new set. Sold the credit to a bloke who wanted and put it back again towards KM2's just new in I believe.
It was believed to be a bad batch with a 'D' code stamped on them as best remember/told. Not saying this would ever happen again but I've never strayed since

All good mate, moved it to tyre thread.

I'm sure Coopers are fine now, never owned them personally but I know someone who got very very little km's out of them but have heard others getting a good 80k in recent years.

Personally, I have gone down the budget path in the past with Federals etc and the poor man pays twice so to speak. I honestly reckon I got max 20k out of the Couragia. That was a few years ago now.

I'm a KM1-2 fan myself, sure you pay but they last and are a good all rounder for on-road/off set up.

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but I know someone who got very very little km's out of them

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Annnnnnd ^^^^ that is that someone....lol

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G'day Brodie mate!
I really dislike bad mouthing companies products but feel it necessary to share my hopefully one off past experience with the ST's.
Decided about 10 years ago that I'd been too brand loyal to BFG with their KM1 series so gave the ST's a trial on my old GU leafy ute. Within 30,000ks they were dangerous having heavily worn out with sidewall and tread bubbles etc.. So much so I was given an agreed credit of 5/8th left on my 80,000km guarantee towards a new set. Sold the credit to a bloke who wanted and put it back again towards KM2's just new in I believe.
It was believed to be a bad batch with a 'D' code stamped on them as best remember/told. Not saying this would ever happen again but I've never strayed since

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I think that brand has stretched the truth a bit much in its advertising , I'm sure they had trouble with delamination and the last lot I looked at a while ago had the worst speed rating .

I'm sure if you ask around plenty of people with coopers get punctures unlike the claims , maaxis make good tyres but it's the Bfg for mine .

If I could also add that us Aussie's like the rest of the world are becoming time poor! Last thing I personally need is for a tyre to let me down whilst enjoying the outdoors for a short needed while :-) I'll pay extra for that insurance;-)

When I got mine I paid an extra $15 bucks to insure each tyre which was just as well because less than a month later I staked a side wall with a tree branch , also get flats fixed for free .

I priced some tyres a few months back and was told by one mob that BFG`s aren`t as good as they use to be and thought it was funny, as that was the brand they weren`t selling. I`ve never had a problem with them and a brother who has had a couple of Coopers on his wagon, says they`re not too bad and has thought of going back to BFG.

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Originally Posted by BrodieTiGQ

I called around today and got some quotes on some bf Goodrich km2 muddies and after a bit of research I've started to rethink them, only for price reasons as I don't really wanna spend 2k on tyres.. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum.../2017/09/3.png

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Keep calling around mate.

I got 5 305s km2s on roh rims for 2250. I can't remember who, but pretty sure someone on here paid $300 each.

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Actually Leah has done a good 50k on her Maxxis AT on her Nav and still a good 20k left. I do reckon the KM1's were better then the KM2's though!


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Actually Leah has done a good 50k on her Maxxis AT on her Nav and still a good 20k left. I do reckon the KM1's were better then the KM2's though!


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I heard that the rubber on the km2 are softer and never checked to see how true the story was.

So no one has had a good experience with cooper tyres?

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I heard that the rubber on the km2 are softer and never checked to see how true the story was.

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It is possible, just watching Rosscos km1's and my 2's are going down as we do similar Km's is interesting.


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So I just can't spend 2k ATM on tyres. I'm on a set budget and need a few other things as well , but I also don't wanna waste my money either I was quoted $1995 for 5 km2 bfg or these? If I go bfg just means I'll have to sacrifice the rear drawers I wanted which ide like to get for our end of year Victoria trip

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It is possible, just watching Rosscos km1's and my 2's are going down as we do similar Km's is interesting.


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My KM2s have worn very quickly, they've been a great offroad tyre but I'm not happy with how long they have lasted.

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@AB I bought my km2s when the wagon had done around 187 000 Ks and I have done 237 000 so far. They look a bit beyond 60 percent.

Call around on the BFG tyres I recently bought 3 of the AT KO2 and had about a $40 difference per tyre in price, it was Tyres and More that got my business not sure if they're are over east.

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My KM2s have worn very quickly, they've been a great offroad tyre but I'm not happy with how long they have lasted. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

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KM2's Winnie mate IMHO agreed definitely wear to 50% so much faster than the KM1's. Performance wise the KM2's grip rocks & release crud so much better than KM1's. I personally believe that BFG might have also woken up their thinking that 100,000k + I used to experience was not financially viable? Watching Mrs MB's little paddock/school mountain run 33's with interest appears that they've slowed wear at 50% ;-) Maybe it makes us re-buy fresh lugs more frequently:-)

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So I just can't spend 2k ATM on tyres. I'm on a set budget and need a few other things as well , but I also don't wanna waste my money either I was quoted $1995 for 5 km2 bfg or these? If I go bfg just means I'll have to sacrifice the rear drawers I wanted which ide like to get for our end of year Victoria trip

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You can try fleabay and gumtree etc but be careful of old rubber no matter how much tread is on them , Patrola part may have good tyres so check the wreckers , but other than that it's go the cheapys and the draws and hope they don't wear too quick .

Brodie, get good tyres. Stuff the drawers mate, drawers are a luxury not a necessity.


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In fact, we here are not too far off ripping out the family wagons daily elcheapo 80+kg draws. Hoping to do a little family touring trip with smartly allocated boxes instead of heavy draws for GVM savings. Tyres, Suspension and Donk/Drivetrain will be I hope what gets us there :-)

What other brand tyres would you guys recommend?

Work GU utes on the highway have done very well with MAXXI's I think they're called :-)

I had a Cooper fully delaminate with the family in the car towing the camper at 100kmh. Cooper didn't want to know about it. They offered me a hat. Never forgotten never forgiven. Scratch the surface and you will find PLENTY of negative reviews.

That price make a them $250 a tyre which is cheap as chip but my Hate for Cooper could b or see me buy them.

I have KM2s with 40k on them and still looking great. I paid $1500 for 5 fitted to my rims from Hunters Element.they have an eBay store

Got a set of the cooper stt pros on a work truck and have to say they look like a very good tyre and so far seem to be wareing fairly well although had the cooper stt's that were reasonable got about 50k out of them. Also had the st's before that and I've never had so many punctures ever in tyres they were ridiculous. But slowly winning back confidence in the coopers although am still a devout BFG fan boy i think. Interestingly i think the stt pros look like a bit of a reaction to the popularity of KM2s even the font looks similar. .

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Never had coopers but would never buy them from the countless horror stories ive heard over the years. That many first hand complaints cant be wrong, no matter what coopers advertising says (imo). Very happy with my mickey thompsons but will look around when theyre next due. Not at coopers tho for me.

I've never had muddies but have had experience with BFG KOs and to be honest I didnt rate them on a wet road, too hard a compound and too slippery. I next had Mickey Thompson 4 rib ATZs, softer compound, wore faster but not stupidly fast, grip was so much better.
My current ride is fitted with Dick Cepek FCIIs, again a softer compound, better in the wet than the BFGs but not quite as good as the Mickeys.

A mate of mine uses Toyo Open Country MTs and loves them, will not use anything else.

My old man uses Yokohama Geolander ATS, again will not use anything else.

What I'm getting at I guess is, it's all down to personal preference.

I know I prefer to have a softer compound with better wet road capabilities than a harder longer wearing tyre that's shit on wet roads. After all, its where most of my driving is done to be honest.

Just dont waste your money buying a cheap brand. As far as a drawer system goes, don't really see the point, not had one in 7 years and probably won't get one either, just extra weight to carry. My stuff goes in storage boxes, that I can remove when not needed.

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I've never had muddies but have had experience with BFG KOs and to be honest I didnt rate them on a wet road, too hard a compound and too slippery. I next had Mickey Thompson 4 rib ATZs, softer compound, wore faster but not stupidly fast, grip was so much better.
My current ride is fitted with Dick Cepek FCIIs, again a softer compound, better in the wet than the BFGs but not quite as good as the Mickeys.

A mate of mine uses Toyo Open Country MTs and loves them, will not use anything else.

My old man uses Yokohama Geolander ATS, again will not use anything else.

What I'm getting at I guess is, it's all down to personal preference.

I know I prefer to have a softer compound with better wet road capabilities than a harder longer wearing tyre that's shit on wet roads. After all, its where most of my driving is done to be honest.

Just dont waste your money buying a cheap brand. As far as a drawer system goes, don't really see the point, not had one in 7 years and probably won't get one either, just extra weight to carry. My stuff goes in storage boxes, that I can remove when not needed.

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I done a bit more looking on eBay and found these! Was after a 35" but I'm happy with 33" still



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Whoops, almost forgot mate!
Never run cast rims, steelies all the way and sledgehammer cheap as Dynamic chips ;-)

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Whoops, almost forgot mate!
Never run cast rims, steelies all the way and sledgehammer cheap as Dynamic chips ;-)

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Yep, I'm going from the tri spoke factory alloys to a set of -22 15" steel rims, they were on the the doner car I recently bought to diesel swap

Try here mate.

http://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/b...-mud-tyre.html

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Try here mate.

http://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/b...-mud-tyre.html

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I bought all my gear for my jayco upgrade from these guys. They were great to deal with and price was really good too. .

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Also have a look at Tempe tyres on eBay or their website. Great prices and free delivery.

Just got 4 x KM2s from them for 259 each.
Slightly smaller tho.

Check them out







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Originally Posted by BrodieTiGQ

So I just can't spend 2k ATM on tyres. I'm on a set budget and need a few other things as well , but I also don't wanna waste my money either I was quoted $1995 for 5 km2 bfg or these? If I go bfg just means I'll have to sacrifice the rear drawers I wanted which ide like to get for our end of year Victoria trip

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Have you thought of buying one tyre at a time over a period of time? Might be one way of getting what you want.

I've always run BFG's and never had a problem with them but they are expensive. Usually get about 80thou out of them. My son swears by Federals and gets good life and performance from them. Less expensive too.

i'm running km2's on the ol gq. had Yokohama geolander's on it when i got it, they were 10 year old and i could drift at idle in 3rd on wet bitumen scared the crap out of everyone. km2's so far got 40 -50 000 kms on em still got plenty of tread. got 5 for 1500 locally 33 10.5 r 15s

I got some Nitto Trail Grapplers put on about a month ago, maybe a bit longer. Great tyre so far. Handles great for a mud tyre in the wet or dry. Works well on beach or trails. They arent very noisy either.
Its a 10 ply tyre too unlike the BFGs from memory. So less likely to puncture or stake a sidewall.
They are also a true sized tyre. So 33 is actually 33 unlike other brands.


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By far imo Toyo Open Country are one of the best bang for buck tyre and if you shop around you can get some fantastic deals.
If I was on a budget of under 300 a tyre I'd be looking at Hankook or Maxxis

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I ended up getting 4 33" bfg km2 muddies from jax tyres for 1450 fitted and balanced , that's pretty good I thought...