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You're only figuring this out now?
EDIT... comment deleted 'cause even replying to a thread about the shitty publications and ethics at EMG pisses me off
I'm going to my happy place....
Dex Fulton is the editor of the opposition magazine isnt he?
If seen plenty of Balfour track footage and what they did didnt seem out of the norm to me.
The only way to get through the bog holes of the Balfour is at high speed. Like every other video i have seen.
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Last time they did Balfour track (a few years ago) it was water over the bonnet and don't go faster than the wake. Then had to winch across a flat lame bit of clay.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
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Track depth can change in a week, or from a few 4bys with massive rubber. Happens here all the time on local tracks here.
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same around hereQuote:
Originally Posted by mudski
its been happening ever since sunraiser rims came on the market they just get biggerQuote:
Originally Posted by mudski
The trick in the Balfour area and most the west is that where the water sits there's usually a hard bottom. The black bog stuff is different ofcourse.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
But yeah I haven't seen their footage
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I only watched the vid last week. Yeah they hit it hard, only to try and get through it. The first two guys didn't make it. The third guy did and he was on 37's in a supercharged LS. I think this is just a case of a tree hugger not liking what they saw, and this other bloke thought he'd use this to put some shit on the opposition who make a far better vid.Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
Ive watched heaps of vids from these guys and i very much doubt it was their intention to just go out and rip up a track.
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Ironically it sounds like it's not the "tree huggers" that want to limit tracks that have found it an issue, it's the 4wders that want to keep tracks open that have the issue about bad practices shown. But as far as I'm aware, the Balfour track has never been up for review. It's basically three main tracks south of sandy Cape (that you can only get to by driving some pretty good 4wd tracks first).
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Yeah my choice in the people complaining is prolly not the best...Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
I would like to see a 4wd do the same spot they did without doing it at speed. Even the 80 that was an absolute animal looked like he was gonna sink.
Any 4wder knows a track with bog needs momentum to get through.
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Hasn't Mt Balfour track been closed for years?
I'm not sure if there's a Mt Balfour track? I'm pretty sure they're talking about the Balfour track (no Mt). The pics on Facebook are definitely that track and it's never been closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
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Not sure if this will work but this is the start of the Balfour track coming from the Western Explorer road going through to Temma.
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https://goo.gl/maps/Zw9P1hSudyk
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Reading the comments on fb (dangerous I know) apparently there is a Mt Balfour track which has been closed for 6 years and these guys drove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
Ahhhhh... The couple of pics definitely just look like Balfour track. I've not heard of Mt Balfour but there's plenty I don't know down there. Are the fb people from tassie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
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Yeah there is a Mt Balfour track
And it has been closed for years
If thats true these guys might be in a whole lot of poo then. But the footage of them going up the track didnt look like a track that hadnt been driven on for 6 years. Surely if it was closed there would have been signage. If a trackmis closed in Tassie Lucas do they have any sort of signs or a gate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
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This is doing the rounds on social media, going to hurt us that tread lightly.
Frustrated by the actions of a few that make those that don't know think all 4WD vehicles are driven like that.
Had a club trip recently and it took a week to getting around to cleaning it, it was parked in my shed fortunately.
Some would see it and think I was a vandal in the bush, in truth we were in 2WD on sealed / graded roads on Saturday morning getting to our destination when it rained.
Just looked bad I guess
They didnt have to go through it as the track to the left was perfectly fine.
so yes they only carved up the track to get some good footage.
Not a great way to promote "tread Lightly" or the cause of track closures down it Tassie
Dont buy the Mag any more, since Pat was editor I think
I subscribed to their magazine almost since it was first published (called 4WD Monthly or some such then), but I haven’t bought one for the last couple of years. I found that the mag was getting repetitive and boring and the DVDs (which started out informative and interesting) are all about who can piss the furthest. I guess it makes for footage that some want to see – but it puts the wrong message into the minds of the mindless. The thing that really irks me is the idea that you can tow a caravan or a trailer “anywhere”. Guess what – you can’t – and we sometimes see the result of these follies here in the High Country. It’s OK for them when they turn up to work on a Monday morning and put in a claim to get all the damage to their vehicles sorted out. It’s different for some youngster who thinks he can do the same and then finds his 4by off the road for months.
This world is all about perceptions and if the average Joe Public perceives that kind of thing as normal 4wding and these Videos do that, then we're f@$&ed and more areas will be closed to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
Where is it Andy? Is it a dead end off shoot from the Balfour?Quote:
Originally Posted by GU CAMPER
Have you watched the footage yet? Did you end up doing the Balfour yet?
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If its one way and sort of flooded though tea tree country to a hut named after a guy who was killed
then the show "Off Road Adventure" have done it ,The bald dude in the 60s and his mate in a Defender
I think this may be the track. It looks like it links the Western Explorer to Balfour track. I wonder if it's open now?
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forum...016/03/141.jpg
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So who's actually watched the whole dvd instead of the tiny little bit shown in the preview. So many assumptions and not enough fact
I watched the whole thing and honestly what's different to a lot of other dvds and trips they do ???
Have the DVD here. Attachment 65385
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Unfortunately facts won't save anyone or anything, Cobber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
As prev posted by others it is totally about perception and the 'anti-4WD brigade' will be all over it.
There was absolutely no need for the activity in the Vids.
It isn't about who can make it or how hard you have to smash the challenge to get to the other side.
It is about the footage showing a whole shitload of bog cutup for no reason other than to sell mags.
I'm not disputing the techniques needed to get thru if there is a genuine reason and someone has to get to the other side.
For a highlights or a promo of a cretinous magazine I would totally dispute the 'need' to do it, video it, promote it and sell it.
They did it to sell the Mag, they DID NOT do it to promote responsible 4WDing
I remember watching one of their dvds years ago where they were doing a river crossing on the Wonnongatta. One of the unnamed guys (in a hacked up old 40 series) drove up the bank that was barley a track and triple winched straight up the bank. Left it a mess, and said that the camera crew and other vehicles had to make a major detour to join up, where it was quite obvious the main track was just off screen and a prefectly good crossing. This put me of these guys, also they (or inparticular one member) carry on like that then give their speel on "greenies" but is quite ambarrasing really to someone who both loves 4wding and the environment.
Having said that there are some good guys, i like greame (think that's his name) and his shorty - being a GQ td42 is a bonus.
I have a DVD named the same and I swear it even looks like the same cover but from about three years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
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Yeah it's off the Balfour track. Not sure if it links back to western explorer rdQuote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
Haven't seen video yet just pics. The pics I've seen look like just the Balfour track Doing Balfour track next week
They only did Balfour track and then up to the old town of Balfour They Didn't go up mt BalfourQuote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
My camper featured on that show when they were at Strahan
Granted I haven't seen the DVD, but nothing I've seen in the preview was particularly bad. Sure, if they've gone on tracks they shouldn't have then that's a problem - but if the worst of their driving is on the previews then there isn't one of us who isn't guilty of the same thing. To say otherwise would mean that you literally winch every piece of track ever, or never go wheeling in the wet. Once again, I haven't seen the DVD, only the preview, and if the DVD shows otherwise then I'm happy to stand corrected.
Agree with everything you said except for the last bit about shorty and that dickhead who drives it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossco
My sentiments exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Throbbinhood
Rooost it up boys!!!
I also like cutting nuts
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some might say un australianQuote:
Originally Posted by Rossco
Yes we have all done it and some continue to do it but by joining a club you are taught to tred lightlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Throbbinhood
and I think through education we should all continue to Tred lightly,Im talking 20-30 yrs ago
We watched the DVD two days ago, and yes they probably went a bit harder than nessesary, but that's 'good' TV. They could of taken the chicken track, but the camera car was bogged there. A complete over reaction.. We watch them only to pick shit out of their methods. How many of those that watch them, actually go and do those trips ?