Seems all the stoves that use those portable butane canisters have been recalled in NSW
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ft...le_butane.page
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Seems all the stoves that use those portable butane canisters have been recalled in NSW
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ft...le_butane.page
Wow. Everyone I know has one of these.
I wonder if this is just over reaction from the bureaucracy? I just forwarded the link to my club secretary so he can forward it on to all the members.
Glad I bought a Coleman stove last week. The won't be any left soon.
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Originally Posted by lucus30
Hmmm interesting..
On a different subject, I was at the tip the other day looking around the "green shed" where they sell everything they collect and spotted one of these cookers.
Anyway it still had the gas canister in it so I'd thought I'd fire it up to see if it works...all good till now. Then I sparked it up and the ferker fired up straitght away and I thought you beauty I might score a bargain here. A few seconds later the whole thing was on fire(imagine this) I'm running and trying to get the furking thing out of the building laughingh my guts out when I realised I'm ganna burn the whole place down...LOL
Anyway, I'm still alive
Coleman will be laughing all the way to the bank
So Nisshead, are you doing a Mythbusters episode and testing to see if the claims of unsafe stoves is true?
Strewth... there would have to be a million or more in the public domain at least.
I'd like to know what the problem is that they 'found' after all these years.
Oh funny shit you had me in tearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
I always laugh when people sleep with the canisters during winter, otherwise they won't fire in the morning or something! I think last year my mate had about 4 of them in his swag, and being in the high country, they still wouldnt work in the morning as it was farkin' stupidly cold!
Hell yeah, I'm always open to suggestions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock Trol
In this episode I'll need a few volunteers and a few stoves to do the experiment but I can promise you one thing...YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED!!! bwahhaha
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I not long ago bought a double to replace my single as it often caught fire.
From what I could tell with mine the butane bottle didn't lock in properly allowing a slow gas leak then after a few mins of cooking up it goes
I used to use them and yep slept with them to make them work in the morning... Quarter way through boiling the billy they freeze over again. Bought a little cooker with a 2L LPG bottle and have not looked backQuote:
Originally Posted by Hodge
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Originally Posted by Winnie
Same thing can happen with the bottles Chrisso. Even car gas can freeze over if cold enough:)
It does work but you need to rotate when they freeze up ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
bugger it, I'm still going to use mine. If it blows up and takes me with it then it was meant to be
I'm sure it can but it hasn't happened to me yet and it's been bloody cold... LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
I thought it was common knowledge that the cheap butane stoves often caught fire and leaked. Someone must have finally complained about it, what do you expect for less than $20....
There is an o-ring you can replace in them but I don't think it makes much difference.
Or stick your wallet between the cooker and the bottle to get the connection juuuuuuust right when you're in the laundry desperately trying to make a coffee because your tent leaked and you got wet... Lmao!Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Thanks lucus30 for posting this. I'll have to inform a couple of members of my 4WD club, as they always use these type of cooker. I wonder if all other states will follow NSW and ban them?
Ive heard of them going up myself but I still use mine, probably just be aware of the potential to combust, use crv safety cans and never put a large pot that covers the cylinders has been my working theory so farQuote:
Originally Posted by sooty_10
Edit: maybe I can use this as an excuse to get the Coleman eventemp that I've wanted for a while
I will keep using mine as I live in SA and it is only a problem in NSW.
Must be the dirty air over there causing a problem.
Not before time, they’re bloody dangerous things. I know of two people personally who have come to grief with the damn things. One lost some eyebrows & one almost lost their motorhome. When my one leaked & had flames coming out of parts where flames shouldn’t come out (using brand name canister) a few years ago I decided to turf it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucus30
Damn I have 6 canisters to use, maybe this weekend. May as well throw them in the campfire, as they're not safe to use.
Oh well, time to dust off the old coleman, will just have to grab a smaller more portable bottle for short trips. Still canjot beat my little hiking stove for those fly fishing wander though, best fresh fish you can get.
We were camping about 100m away from a group when we heard an almighty bang. I grabbed my torch and ran over as I knew there were youngens camping with their dads at the campsite.
When I got there the two dads were just sitting there shell shocked and the kids thought whatever happened was awesome with snags and eggs all over the place and a twisted up stove laying on the ground. Once we worked out what had happened we found the butane canister and a knife and tongs about 15m away.
Vowed never to buy one and pittied the poor Dads having to explain to the missuses why the were home early.
so much for Australian standards hey
I don't know what your talking about ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie
Yeah that was a crap time!!!
Hahahahaha. I wonder if this ban has something to do with it being so easy to buy the canisters which so many people use as explosives in camp sites?Quote:
Originally Posted by AB
Wifey had a shot at me for buying the Coleman last week for $160 bucks and said I should have just bought another single burner to go with the one we had. I showed her the recall and she said lucky you didn't buy that single burner like you were going to. Lol
I upgraded to a two burner and bottle set up this summer. Nothing to do with safety just sick of waiting for the canister ones to cook. I want a lot of meat, cooked hot, NOW!
I have one I bought a few months ago with 8 cylinders for when I wanted to travel light...
I guess it's back to the trangier and slow cooked meals for now.
If you insist on using these things, make sure you a) keep your face well away from them, b) only use them well away from anything combustible (& definitely not in a vehicle or tent) & c) NEVER use a pot or pan which is larger than the burner ring. Using a pot or pan that is too big (overhangs the canister compartment, even by just a bit) is the most common cause of explosion, although ‘quality issues’ of both the stoves and the canisters (including brand name canisters - my direct experience) can result in dangerous gas leaks. I was lucky ..... when flames were coming out around the front of the stove, I was able to eject the canister & thankfully it sealed itself off when I did. Hate to think what might of happened if it hadn’t. The stove was attached to a drop down door on the side of our bus at the time.
FWIW after I threw my stove in the bin I thought I’d make use of my excess brand name canisters. Bought one of those blow torch fittings, a cheapie off ebay. It leaked, I could see the vapour leaking out - just as well I did & decided not to try to light it. Still I assumed it was the tool not the canister, so put it down to experience & bought a better quality blow torch, but had the same result. Every canister in the 6 pack was faulty & would not seal. Prior to that particular pack I had never had a problem......... but it only takes one.
Another little story. About 20 years ago I was camping up near Sheepyard flats with wife & 9 year old son. Our camp fire was 10 to 12 metres from our Southern Cross tent (Very heavy duty canvas & extra thick vinyl floor). “Look son” says I “ I’ll show you why you should never put an aerosol onto a a fire because it’s dangerous” (Doh). The aerosol was an empty motorcycle chain lube one. Chucked it on the fire & we retreated to what I considered a safe distance. It went off with a mighty bang, impressively exploding in the fire. “There” I said “look what it did to the fire...... imagine if you were close to it!” It was a short time later I discovered the damage done to the tent. The aerosol had become a chunk of red hot shrapnel which had gone through the tent like a hot knife through butter as seen from the two inch hole first through the awning (fibre reinforced vinyl), then through the canvas, & then through the vinyl flooring inside! I think both father & son learned a lesson that day!
buy the flame thrower for the top of the cannister works a treat, just make sure the "O" ring stays in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollofish
I lot blow up because ppl use them wrong, I only use mine for morning coffee at camp using a kettle, but if you place a huge castiron frypan on it the flame heats the cannister.say no more.
No brainer IMO but saying that I've since brought a Ghillie kettle for morning coffee.
If you only use them for coffee they will be fine ,Had mine for years
I would never useone to cook a meal
Look at how they work and dont force them and they should last a long time like mine
I know what I'm getting the inlaws for xmas....
Jeez my burner got a hiding over the christmas break, I went though 3 bottles in two weeks. Had zero issues with mine, but something to keep an eye out for. Although I did notice the bottle does get quite hot when using it. I will be having the fire x sitting there ready from now on.
Try using a smaller pot or saucepan or what ever you are using,Quote:
Originally Posted by mudski
large pots etc just deflect the flame onto the cannister
Been using these for 15 years , worn out 3 of them. Never had problem. Yet!
Just checked the one I have from super cheap is not on banned list, but I could not find the cookers for sale on their website.
These cannisters are what people should be using or similar with a CRV built in. Most won't have the valve built in and rely solely on the burner's pressure valve and are the one's that generally explode. I am yet to hear / see any cannister's with built in CRV go kaboom. I have 2 x double and 3 x single burners and have never had a problem with them or the CRV cannisters over the last 10 years of using them.
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@ OD where are they available from ???