Started ordering bits for the conversion today commencing with the most strategic part, the bellhousing and thats on order with Dellow.
Spoke to the engineer who will be certifying it and he seems happy with my plans.
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Started ordering bits for the conversion today commencing with the most strategic part, the bellhousing and thats on order with Dellow.
Spoke to the engineer who will be certifying it and he seems happy with my plans.
Now that sounds like a project - will the electronic side of things be the most complex aspect, or is that dealt with by a wiring harness or some such?
Electronics should not be too bad if I stay with the BA ECU. I need to get it flashed to remove the PAT security and also change the VSS signal input from ABS to non ABS type (gearbox sensor).
Dont you have to do something with the throttle pedal setup as its fly by wire or is that on the later models. I know on another forum im on a bloke has done this and I think the wiring was prob the hardest he had to do, he also had issues with not having enough room for the turbo although that could be solved with the use of a highmount.
all else being equal, will you get better fuel economy Twase? Than the TB42E I meant.
Sweet will be keeping an eye on this thread and buildup
Yes Fly by Wire throttle will be required. Correct there will be some clearance issues between the turbo and the steering coupler that will need some work to get both some clearance and heat isolation.Quote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
That is the plan, mine is a carb version so with the BA I will be able to go Sequential Vapour LPG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver
thanks Twase.
This sounds like an awesome project!!
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Originally Posted by Silver
Should see economy around the diesel economy area
But when that load pedal gets pushed i reckon the rears will smoke
Blokes are pulling mid 11 secs 1/4 mile times will mildy modded BA XR6 turbo falcons
Be watching this thread
Going Turbo for the extra torque I need to tow the van. Not going to mod it for more, if anything I might even reduce the boost.
Wash your mouth out with soap!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by twase
I have been playing with The XR6T since they came out, Have owned a BA & FG XR6T, both since new. My BA was a lil bit modded, and pushing out 300+ kw, and had only just started thinking about starting to mod the FG before a drunk crashed into it at twice the posted speed limit at 9.30 in the morning :(
When it comes time for the tuning, dont cheap out, these engines are real hand granades when tuned by people who dont know them. I see your in Canberra, and would recommend that you go and have a chat with Herrod motorsort before any tuning is done, They are the Australian distributor for the SCT XCal tuning software, and have set up the BA-BF-FG tuning software better than SCT. Rod will point you in the right direction for a great tuner, and for the lpg, the ONLY set of gas I have heard working on these engines is the JTG Liquid injection http://www.alpgw.com.au Have seen HUGE power from this set up, where the other systems I have seen the pics of the aftermath :(
Fern tree gully auto salvage have a heap of current model bits laying around too http://www.ftgautosalvage.com.au/ if you havnt got the engine yet, I would have a chat with Chris, tell him what your doing as he is a wealth of information when sticking the Ford engines into weird and wonderful places (last one he did was putting a V8 from a GT and all of the running gear into a territory)
Good luck mate & I will be watch this with great anticipation
It is not going to be a daily, I use my BF for that. I have the motor ECU and body and engine looms already. I have dealt with FTG before but with the previous owner (Darren)
Customer service has dropped a bit since Darren sold up, but everything else is awesome still. Just curious, what made you choose the turbo over the boss?
Its cost effective for me to do it this way as I have all the main bits already from a previous project.
Know it's a bit off topic but over on patrol4x4 (before it crapped itself) there was a guy who did a crazy bitsa truck using an XR6T and auto.
He used a GQ chassis, put an F100 body on it with a custom flat tray and then dropped the XR6 motor in with factory 6spd auto and an adapter to use a patrol transfer case.
He also made the XR6 interior fit in the cab as well, was a crazy neat job. Had massive engineering approval dramas but got it through in the end. Obviously you plan to use a different gearbox so that's where your adapter is but would still be worth looking up even just to see how he got around turbo position, mounted the engine etc.
Thanks for the tip, pity that site is infected with MalWare.
Found a build thread for IronHorse over on Fordmods
http://www.fordmods.com/the-garage-f...rt-t69140.html
Dellow BellHousing arrived today, looks the part too.
Gradually collecting parts over the next month before I commence the conversion.
Might have solved the turbo clearance problem by flipping the manifold so the turbo is now high mounted. However I might now have bonnet clearance issues.
The other issue is the cast iron dump pipe no longer points in the correct place but there seems to be plenty of options here.
In the light of day it looks like I am missing 50mm or so of bonnet clearance won't be able to tell for sure until the motor is installed.
The more I look the less likely its going to fit under the bonnet, might have to go chasing a FG manifold.
2" body lift? Bonnet scoop over turbo?
Or a bonnet bulge of a ford? That would look different on a patrolQuote:
Originally Posted by nissannewby
tappin it
food for thought, not sure that it would fit the patrol image though.
If you want the patrol image, keep a patrol motor in it!Quote:
Originally Posted by twase
tappin it
I have seen a patrol with one of those big tunnel ram bonnet scoops on it i didnt really like it but each to their own.
Nah dont !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
I wanna see a GQ that smokes the rear bags at 100Ks !!!
I can't think of any good reason at present to keep the TB42, I have spent so much time and money trying to get it to idle and not miss I will be glad to see the flywheel end of it leaving on a trailer.
Should have a look at bigrigs members ride thread. He's getting some power out of the old tb42.
How many ks do ya get out of the xr6 before major rebuilds? Are they a very long lasting engine? What sort of kw's and torque would you be looking at, at the wheels on 33" tyres?
tappin it
300kW should be no problem.
Tappa tappa
Geez that would be tough!Quote:
Originally Posted by KRISTOFFA
Is that what they put out in a falcon?
tappin it
A stock one could put that out in a Falcon with just a tune. Some boys are getting 800kW out of them. Now that would be fun in a Patrol!
Tappa tappa
Started the conversion today, motors almost out.
Decided to go full BA electrics, so out goes almost all the Patrols wiring and in will go all the BA looms and Electronic's.
I would imagine they would last every bit as long as any other BA if not flash tuned. I know the Taxis do over 500000 before rebuilds and you see non turbo motors on ebay for sub $300 accasionally so rebuilds are probably the non economic way of doing things.Quote:
Originally Posted by taslucas
I would be more than happy with around 180kw. I am probably droping the boost control from the ECU anyway and fixing the boost at 5psi max.
Any Pics of this conversion yet?????
Only the before shot so far.
With the sort of numbers your lookin at she should run that all day everyday. Taxis get such high k's out of the motors cos they are almost always at operating temp. Cold starts to warm up is where most engine wear happens
Kinda stuck trying to seperate the bellhousing from the motor. I am not removing the gearbox which probably makes it harder. Can see any bolts remaining.
EDIT
I found a simple way of seperating the bellhousing from the engine, a jemmy bar through the starter opening and pry against the rear of the flywheel.