Has technology killed the modern 4by with all the technology available today, old school 4bys only need a condensor and set of points in the glove box, hows it changed your thinking?????
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Has technology killed the modern 4by with all the technology available today, old school 4bys only need a condensor and set of points in the glove box, hows it changed your thinking?????
Mate, I think we need to move forward otherwise we'd still be in the stone ages...hahaha. The technology advances are a great thing for our vehicles. Small capacity engines throwing out huge amounts of power/torque.
Auto components are of high quality these days so nothing to stress about but yeah it is something else that can fail out bush and you'd need an engineering certificate just to know where to start looking.
Mechanical trouble is probably the most seen problem out in the sticks
My thoughts are, if technology is there to improve performance/drivebility then I'm 100% behind it. Heated seats, mirrors and all the other jazz I don't need but if you have the $$$ then go for it.
I can remember watching a show with Jack Absalom in black and white driving a EK holden evrywhere, didnt need 4wd and there are some places he went I would wager that some people would need diff locks and a 4wd to get there, as he said its all about reading the road and conditions and taking the appropriate action which a lot of people dont do!
Brad Newham used to have the servo at Birdsville years ago, then 4x4 shop in Bayswater and now in south Aust, he told me 90% of desert failures were due to computer failure [dust]. And as stropp said you don't need a 4by , as someone made it up Big Red in a HQ sedan, while all the 4bys were working out how to get uplined up down the bottom.. on the flip side guy in NSW has Challenge prepped Range Rover cost approx $200K took new supercharged one around his test track and stated it does everything my Comp truck does BUT BETTER, Go figure
Not sure on the dust killing computers, most computers are or should at least be sealed I would have thought. Most solid state components and whole ecu's should be resin filled as well so not sure on that one but I'm not an expert . May be when they first came out that could be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by threedogs
I think we could be straying off the subject here as the main thread was about technology in 4x4 and not drive ability but I do agree you can take a 2wd just about anywhere you want to go,
Personally I have a 4wd to tow as I wouldn't want to have a 1.5t vehicle with 3 t behind it....just seems a bit unequal.lol . ohh yeah then I have one for a bit of fun as well...hahhaha
Anyway, vehicles are certainly not build like they used to and never will. Technology is here and will only advance so not much we can do but enjoy the benefits.
The mighty GQ td42 is the most technologically advanced vehicle I'll ever need and it also goes nearly anywhere in 2wd ;-)
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Went and did border track last year in my father inlaws brand new kakadu prado. Most painful experience ever and it was because of technology. It has camera front and rear and in mirrors pointing down. With proximity sensors. They are what were the pain. Whole trip it was beeping at us because it thought we were going to hit stuff when going on tight tracks. Was ready to rip the speaker out of dash board. Other thing I had to laugh at. Was the computer in it. Let you pick the terrain. Sand/mud/rock. All that crap was sad really to think that's how 4x4 driving had become. And a shopping trolley had more clearance. End of rant lol
Small capacity engines forced fed to produce unreliable power doesnt sound like a technological advancement to me ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nisshead
GU 2.8 proves that point
The neighbours 3 L 4 potta hilux at 170 K , blew the engine , engine was 14 grand , then the turbo went south, another 4 odd grand
Not bad for a so called over expensive,late model high tech engine
New stuff is great,and theres some , the ford I6 engines other than head gasket failure,will go 800,000 ks and more
I think its well and good as technology is,its taken the driving away from driving
ABS, traction control,power steer,6 speed autos , blah blah blah,its good but its proven not to be as reliable as the less fancy stuff
Why do the old skool GQs still command what they are,surely the newer patrols are better, but demand for the oldies proves other wise
It bothers me new cars cost what they do and just dont go the distant as many an older version
I'm very old school as you all know and I'll always swear by the old saying...
KISS!
I get to drive some of these new crop of 4wds around a mine site and know that they certainly arent built the way they use to be. Its a business thing really these big car companies dont make money by building a car that will last 20 years hence they arent built the same have a look at how many people by new cars every 5 years and as its been stated have a look at how much money they are making out of spare parts.